The Rumour Commode XLIV: Paragliding to Piolistine Crisis

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Kirk Van Houten

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Messias said a few weeks ago that he left Milan because he felt he was no longer playing for fun, but out of fear of making a mistake. I think that's very indicative of the pressure and expectations that arise at a club like Milan, where even the supposedly safe third place is not enough and criticism hails from all sides as to why they are not playing for the title and have been eliminated from the CL.

Some young players can cope with that kind of pressure. Charles, on the other hand, gave the impression right from the start that he was struggling with the transition from a small league to a historic Serie A club and the expectations, probably also due to the high transfer fee.

At Atalanta, not only does he now play in a position that seems much more comfortable for him, he has also had weeks and months to develop in peace under Gasperini's watchful eye, without feeling the weight of the fans' hopes and the relentless media pressure of the Italian press on a daily basis. I don't think he would have developed as well with us or that it was simply a question of patience. He needed the distance from us. It was a good decision to let him move to Atalanta, for all sides.

The only thing we got wrong was letting Atalanta retain the option to buy on him.

He's a young player with huge potential but the expectation was always going to be very high after how much we fought for him and how much we paid. If he was coming back next season with a point to prove I'd be so happy, as it is now he'll spend next season ripping shit up for Atalanta again before they sell him for a huge profit.
 

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Milan, Juve, Inter and Roma are the only clubs that voted in favor of the reductions to 18 clubs in Serie A, all the other clubs voted against and therefore the proposal has been rejected

How do you see it as an Italian?

Imo it might not be better for the quality of the league but its definitely better for Italy as a whole. Already cities from the south are almost non existent in Serie A. Almost all of the clubs are from the north. Now with Cagliari and Salernitana close to relegation its even worse. And clubs that are getting promoted are Parma, Cremonese, Como, Venezia, all clubs from the rich north. And the only southern club (if you can even call it south) is Napoli.

This divide cant be good for Italian football and for the nation.
 

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The only thing we got wrong was letting Atalanta retain the option to buy on him.

He's a young player with huge potential but the expectation was always going to be very high after how much we fought for him and how much we paid. If he was coming back next season with a point to prove I'd be so happy, as it is now he'll spend next season ripping shit up for Atalanta again before they sell him for a huge profit.
They wouldn’t have signed him without the option.
 

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How do you see it as an Italian?

Imo it might not be better for the quality of the league but its definitely better for Italy as a whole. Already cities from the south are almost non existent in Serie A. Almost all of the clubs are from the north. Now with Cagliari and Salernitana close to relegation its even worse. And clubs that are getting promoted are Parma, Cremonese, Como, Venezia, all clubs from the rich north. And the only southern club (if you can even call it south) is Napoli.

This divide cant be good for Italian football and for the nation.
I think you are right, i just wish Milan and Redbird were smarter on this matter. Everyone knew the small clubs wouldn't vote in favor and why would they? I understand them. This was a chance to make friends and to build good relationships at home in Serie A. We could let Marotta vote in favor and make him lose all the friends he has at Sassuolo, Monza, Torino and so on instead we wasted this opportunity
 

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THIS! is what i want to see, you want to attack? Then you should defend and run back like this. It was a 2vs2 scenario and he stopped it.

Some would say: but you can't run like this every game, but that's why we bought many players and improved the bench.
 

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THIS! is what i want to see, you want to attack? Then you should defend and run back like this. It was a 2vs2 scenario and he stopped it.

Some would say: but you can't run like this every game, but that's why we bought many players and improved the bench.


Simon Kjaer has been a professional footballer for 17 years and the way he got caught there is something you'd expect to see at under 14 level.
 

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The only thing we got wrong was letting Atalanta retain the option to buy on him.

He's a young player with huge potential but the expectation was always going to be very high after how much we fought for him and how much we paid. If he was coming back next season with a point to prove I'd be so happy, as it is now he'll spend next season ripping shit up for Atalanta again before they sell him for a huge profit.

The problem is – as we've witnessed numerous times with loaned players – when they fail to make an immediate impact, they often find themselves sidelined. CDK didn't begin his time at Atalanta on a strong note either. If Atalanta were aware that they'd have to return him to us at the season's end, they likely wouldn't have extended so much patience toward his development. The prospect of retaining him incentivized them to persist in their wait for improvement.
 

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Simon Kjaer has been a professional footballer for 17 years and the way he got caught there is something you'd expect to see at under 14 level.

He's old as shit injury prone and was left on an island with a good dribbler in ahalf space position. With that said he still forced Kvara wider than expected instead of allowing him to cutting inside and getting a shot off. While it didn't look textbook Kjaer still delayed Kvara which allowed Florenzi to get back.
 

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in this moment we need ceo that knowes to sell

we need to sell
gabbia
rlc
colombo and pobega
There is no reason to sell Gabbia till we get 4 players from our primavera who have become senior players so we can have complete teams in Europe. If we didn’t have Gabbia, his spot would be open in our European list because there is no one else to fill it.

Right now we only have Calabria, Gabbia and Pobega (youth players don’t count so forget them).

We actually have one unfilled spot currently
 

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He's old as shit injury prone and was left on an island with a good dribbler in ahalf space position. With that said he still forced Kvara wider than expected instead of allowing him to cutting inside and getting a shot off. While it didn't look textbook Kjaer still delayed Kvara which allowed Florenzi to get back.

He's 34 in these days of sports science and nutrition he shouldn't be looking as rickety as he does. He should also know that he had a less than 0 chance of winning the ball diving in the way he did- it was really poor defending especially from someone as experienced as him.
 

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Full Interview: Pinned Comment | Paolo Maldini to repubblica:”With Pioli, we were already planning for the next season. He had deserved an extension until 2025. And if there had been, as in the past, unity of intentions and visions with the club's objectives, I don’t see why we should have changed."​


Please go back to being a part-time poster, thanks
I fucked up*
so maybe i cant say this, but imma say it anyway - we have people being proud of being full-time commoders now? (always had?)

* - the italian anti-pioli gang that i see on twitter seem convinced he was gone under paolo, even after the interview
 

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Unfortunately, it can't be done.
Depends what you mean by stadium. But yeah, if it’s just the stadium structure itself (not the podium or plaza buildings or infrastructure) and if it’s a normal building without a retractable roof or pitch, then yeah it could be a top 70k+ stadium for that estimate.

The special thing about it from what we know is the curva will be modeled after the yellow wall in Dortmund, and the outside will have huge LED screens to advertise towards the highways and to the plaza.
 

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He's 34 in these days of sports science and nutrition he shouldn't be looking as rickety as he does. He should also know that he had a less than 0 chance of winning the ball diving in the way he did- it was really poor defending especially from someone as experienced as him.

That sports science angle you're trying to use is complete nonsense. You're jsut throwing it out there without any real context on the individual.

He is physically compromised have you seen the amount of muscular injuries he's had and throw in a knee injury all within the last 2 years. He's breaking down all the sports science and healthy eating in the world isn't going to help a 34 year old with 17 years experience and injury prone to get better. It doesn't work like that. :ibralol:

You're concentrated so much on what he did wrong he still managed to delay and send Kvara wider. Kvara should of cut inside to his strong foot instead Kjaer positioning no matter how good or bad it was forced Kvara on the outside to his weaker foot which is what all defenders are told when playing inverted attackers.
 

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The difference between Messias, CDK and this guy.
This guy seems to handle pressure well enough.
 

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that's hardly a feat these days tho:lol:

but yeah, ideally he would replace kjaer as the 4-5th CB option

Kjaer last season had some elite games on him here and there. I mean you called him the best CB we had for a reason at one point last season.

But unfortunately this season he got even worse. Apparently the injury timeout he had this season, was it 3 months or whatever it was, has made him even worse than ever.

He’s finito. At least for Pioliball.
 

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That sports science angle you're trying to use is complete nonsense. You're jsut throwing it out there without any real context on the individual.

He is physically compromised have you seen the amount of muscular injuries he's had and throw in a knee injury all within the last 2 years. He's breaking down all the sports science and healthy eating in the world isn't going to help a 34 year old with 17 years experience and injury prone to get better. It doesn't work like that. :ibralol:

You're concentrated so much on what he did wrong he still managed to delay and send Kvara wider. Kvara should of cut inside to his strong foot instead Kjaer positioning no matter how good or bad it was forced Kvara on the outside to his weaker foot which is what all defenders are told when playing inverted attackers

Sorry mate but you're talking shit. It was horrible defending and only for Florenzi getting back we'd all be on here this morning cursing Pioli for playing him.
 

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Kjaer last season had some elite games on him here and there. I mean you called him the best CB we had for a reason at one point last season.

But unfortunately this season he got even worse. Apparently the timeout he had this season, was it 3 months or whatever it was, has made even worse than ever.

He’s finito. At least for Pioliball.
all these injuries take their toll eventually and he's not getting any younger, although defenders can still play at a good level even when they're old

that being said, if serial winner conte takes over and we decide to play like a provincial side by parking the bus at the back instead of a high defensive line, he might still be useful when we have to suffer against mid-table teams defending our 1-0 lead

also his elite games last season came when we played like a provincial side in padre's 3-5-2:proud:
 

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Sorry mate but you're talking shit. It was horrible defending and only for Florenzi getting back we'd all be on here this morning cursing Pioli for playing him.

I'm talking shit because I exposed your flawed argument? Not once but twice.

Doesn't matter how good or bad Kjaer positioning he still got Kvara to go on the outside. Just looking how Kjaer moves tells you his legs are gone that's why he gave Kvara room to begin with. To hold him up as long as he could and hope support would come even if it was for 1 secs.
 
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