The Rumour Commode XLVII: Foamseca is out

[Il Barone]

It's too bad we have the lower hand in terms of negotiating a sale of Theo, given his weak performances and remaining contract length.

To me, Theo looks demotivated and unhappy being here, which - in my opinion - should result in a sale as soon as possible. The old days with a smiling Theo having the best days of his life with Castillejo and Brahim Diaz are long gone. Now, we - as fans - actually have high expectations for him, and he doesn't seem to thrive under this sort of pressure.

Even though Theo - on his best days - is one of the strongest fullbacks in the world, we cannot risk playing him when he costs us a goal/brain fart each game. My patience is gone. Not only with him but also with the way this club is managed.

 

[Jivara]

Its funny ppl blaming the management when it was a mistake from a "veteran" player that decided the match, who was brought into the club by the predecessor

@Deep Fried Pizza & Chips

It had to happen eventually

 

[voom]

Theo has been known throughout his career to have moments and bouts of stupidity or to be easy to be drawn out. Pretty much the leftback version of Mexes,
It's up to management to either manage it by creating an environment for him that he can thrive in or replacing him if they know they can't.

Pioli got the best out of him, other managers couldn't. either way the responsibility comes back to management

Pioli has his merits of course, but also Maldini. After both got out of the club, Theo was never the same again. I dont see hunger and motivation in him anymore. That player cannot be of use. It's shame that he became this much nonchalant and arrogant. He could have been legend here, but his attitude is too much now. 40-50 milion is fair enough for him.

 

[actrader10]

I am so angry. Not at theo but just how the team retreated after he got sent off. It was though they didnt even believe they could do it. I understand the situation but the complete lack of leadership in this team is the biggest problem. No one said calm down, no one said keep hold of possession etc as best as we could. The best example of this was when musah just stood still and didnt run for the ball, total confusion, he had lost his head. Its a mentality issue, football iq issue etc, and most importantly comes from a lack of leadership in defence, and especially midfield. We dont have anyone to play or dictate the game. And i think that is the worse thing when i look at this team. There is literally no one who can calm the situation down for a few mins. Secondly as much as everyone says we played well for 50mins, it was still the same old stuff of passing it around and around them. Yes they did f all but of course they will with 18 year old up front and half their team missing. Finally Felix has been horrible, we have a felix in leao we cannot afford another one when we have a midfield like this. And finally, how can every team bring younger players to play in these games when they have injuries and they play well but we never do so? Surely we have someone with more energy and guts than fofano?

 

[IL-Capitano]

Milan’s performance yesterday was an improvement over the first leg it started perfectly 1-0 within a minute and they were dominating at San Siro which should be the case.

There were enough chances created to be 3-0 up by half time. In such a case the game is much safer even if Milan are a man down.

Regarding Theo and both bookings there are no excuses both were irresponsible and quite stupid from him. But at 1-0 Milan and man down Milan could still have won this game.

The subs were very odd especially when Gimines came off and Fofana went on in his place. Pulisic had a quiet game and was clearly not fit enough to play. Chuk and Tammy offered nothing when they came on

I can’t imagine what Conceicao’s thinking was with the subs in a must win game, if the play was to grind out a 1-0 and go to penalties or snatch a late goal either way it backfired.

Milan’s play and tempo dropped far too much and let Feyenoord seize control of the game. That equaliser was coming and Milan’s second half performance facilitated it. For this loss no player is exempt.

The thing is under RedBird moments like this were bound to happen. People complain about players, their attitudes, mentality and their performance. Questions need to asked of all of them.

The management have been in question since they have taken over. The absentee puppet owner Gerry, Furlani as CEO, moncada as SD and Ibra as advisor.

This management have created a deeply unpleasant environment even toxic environment that has lead to where Milan currently find themselves.

It doesn’t excuse the players but when the underlying issues are festering in management.
They will inevitably infect every other person who has to work under such a set up.

Moments like yesterday are going to arrive in such a set up and more are likely to happen. Top four while not impossible will be difficult based on the current environment at Milan.

Higher management must be held accountable as they have created it.

 

[Stitches]

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

@Deep Fried Pizza & Chips

It had to happen eventually

@Rockstar so it's previous managements fault...



M'kayyyy....

 

[MilanBG]

Considering that we are just 1 goal behind and they miss half of their starters it would be a shame if we don't progress. Actually a comfortable win should be happening.

We were cruising... Just one more goal needed and it looked like it would happen. Comfortable 2-0 win and progress until Theo decided to show up

 

[MilanBG]

It's too bad we have the lower hand in terms of negotiating a sale of Theo, given his weak performances and remaining contract length.

To me, Theo looks demotivated and unhappy being here, which - in my opinion - should result in a sale as soon as possible. The old days with a smiling Theo having the best days of his life with Castillejo and Brahim Diaz are long gone. Now, we - as fans - actually have high expectations for him, and he doesn't seem to thrive under this sort of pressure.

Even though Theo - on his best days - is one of the strongest fullbacks in the world, we cannot risk playing him when he costs us a goal/brain fart each game. My patience is gone. Not only with him but also with the way this club is managed.

Declan Rice was in last year of contract and everybody knew he was not going to extend - 120 m
Harry Kane was in last year of contract and everybody knew he was not going to extend - 96 m
We all know that Theo is dumbass who can't defend, but to other teams he is still the starting LB of France who is known for his insane runs
Getting 40-45 shouldn't be a problem at all. Maybe even more if the right teams are in the mix.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

The one thing Milan has actually done exceptionally well in recent years is market the brand and increase revenue streams. We've doubled commercial revenue since Elliott took over from the Chinese – and it’s still growing.

Also, Milan is not the only club charging high ticket prices. Have you seen what Premier League fans pay? It’s insane. Heck, Juve and Inter are not that much better when it comes to ticketing either.

Also also – do you really think the new bloated Champions League format, the never-ending fixture list, the skyrocketing subscription fees for pay-TV or the absurdly overpriced merch exist because only Milan struggles to generate enough revenue to fund these overpaid prima donnas and man-babies?

This is football in 2025. It’s a bubble that keeps inflating, and every club that isn't owned by an oil state is scrambling to keep up. Even Bayern secured some streams from the far East. If you think Milan is an outlier, you haven't been paying attention.

It may be growing relative to how it was in banter era

But it’s still nothing compared to growth in epl

Even fodder epl teams generate substantially higher revenue than mid table 4th ranked to 8th ranked serie a teams

Huge discrepancy due to the Tv deal. Clearly it isn’t good enough

They haven’t quoted tapped a lot of the markets.

This team isn’t worthy of higher ticket prices

No sane person should pay for these dorks.

Need a competent management firstly
Get the stadium sorted
Sort out brand and marketing which has taken steps in the right direction but due to lack of sporting ambition they perennially self destruct by buying non compatible players. Lose key matches in public eye that lowers the brand value every time. No one really respects Milan anymore and it’s evident everywhere.

 

[finnishhacker]

Fuck theo man, what a bitch

 

[Pigeon]

What had we done to deserve what happened to us while Maldini was still there?

extending padre and midget

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

What had we done to deserve what happened to us while Maldini was still there?

Yeah #19 sucked ass... I hate winning trophies!!!

 

[Milanista from Russia]

We didn't lose yesterday, we drew and were eliminated from the Champions League with dignity. Because we're A GANG!!!!

 

[Pigeon]

We were cruising... Just one more goal needed and it looked like it would happen. Comfortable 2-0 win and progress until Theo decided to show up

yeah always seems easy and comfortable until our bums decide to show up

 

[milanator]

Since they moved tijanni back for this fab 4 leonardo pig headed stupidity we cant even sniff proper goals and Santiago has been lethal and Pulisic gave few assists when he recovered from his chelsea bullshit injury.

Just move Tijanni up and give him the crown he has successfully healed his compass and he can consistently find the net. He is unselfish, smart and energetic enough to help you out.

I know that his choices in CL are limited but with getting Sottil and Musah, Jimenez it wasn't expected that they would actually field the fab 4 that often.
Especially Felix is really irritating me, SC seemingly has to play him for Mendes.

I hope now we will see a better rotation at least.

 

[forward]

Today is insanely bad day

Wrecked by Feyenoord in san siro after taking a lead in 1st minute.

God damn Santiago remined me Paolo maldini goal in istanbul 05 attleast he didnt helm a defense to lose after taking 3-0 lead.

Think positively.

Do you really want to watch this Milan play against Bayern and Inter?

No? Exactly.

p.s. Our best hope for this season is to continue grinding 1:0 wins against mid table teams in Serie A.

 

[Caladan]

Its funny ppl blaming the management when it was a mistake from a "veteran" player that decided the match, who was brought into the club by the predecessor

We did not buy any other left back since arrive Theo. I dont count FBT. Theo style is more attacking minded and if somebody think he will be ready all the time. He is blinded.

 

[IL-Capitano]

Yeah #19 sucked ass... I hate winning trophies!!!

A football team winning trophies how disgusting!

What you want from a sports club is financial Scudetto’s

 

[Kaka92]

I thought it would be better after I got some sleep, but nope, I'm still fucking mad about Theo.

Man, we played a great 50 minutes, we had them. Until Theo showed up. And it's really hard for me to blame others when we were screwed over by just one man who decided to ruin all the good that had been done.


Yes, sometimes it's really one person's fault. Starting from Gabbia/Musah shitshow to this.

 

[ymsv]

I thought it would be better after I got some sleep, but nope, I'm still fucking mad about Theo.

Man, we played a great 50 minutes, we had them. Until Theo showed up. And it's really hard for me to blame others when we were screwed over by just one man who decided to ruin all the good that had been done.


Yes, sometimes it's really one person's fault. Starting from Gabbia/Musah shitshow to this.

Theo performance last night , was a nice summary of his performance for the last two seasons . Not concentrated , playing by inertia from previous seasons , not because he want it to be there , but because he has to since there is no other choice . He looks like a player who just give up in front of the problems .

 

[MilanBG]

Last 3 crucial CL games that shaped the whole campaign:
Away vs Zagreb. Must win game and top 8. Gabbia with the mistake of his career. Followed by incredibly dumb red by Musah
Away vs Feyenoord. Horrible mistake by Maignan
Home vs Feyenoord. Incredibly dumb play by Theo
Instead of comfortably waiting for the draw on Friday as a top 8 team, we fucked up the whole campaign solely because of incredible individual mistakes. I know they are people and mistakes happen, but they can't happen literally every game.

 

[MilanBG]

The more I watch it, the less I understand what his plan was here.

You either play it and try to assist/score or you make sure there's contact. Even if it is not a penalty, at least it will not be a yellow. With VAR being around for nearly a decade it is impossible to get such a penalty. What was this idiot thinking? Is he thinking at all?

 

[acmHR]

I know the heads are hot right now, but the first one to blame is Theo. He got two embarrassingly stupid yellow cards. I would argue the first one is even worse: A foul at the center pulling Musa around like a maniac, which would disqualify him for the eventual last 16 first leg. Theo regressed a lot, looks uninterested most of the time, and only from time to time makes these forward runs that were his trademark.

The question is, can Conceicao/management find a way to motivate him and make him happy. Maybe he wants that raise which is not happening for some time now (I agree his current form does not deserve it), but it might be in our best interest to do it considering he is still one of the best full backs in the world, potentially the best one if we are able to get him back to speed.

Back to match, we looked great for 50 minutes, yes we didn't create that much and scored in first minute, but were still dangerous and allowed Feyenoord practically nothing. Theo's red card cost us everything. You could argue we should not have conceded after the red card, but the match changed and we're not so much better than Feyenoord to be able to press them even with 10 on the field.

This season is a disaster, that is something we can all agree on. But it doesn't mean some good things were not done. I say lets give Conceicao some time with a practically new attack, and a lighter schedule will most likely help us to push both in Coppa Italia and Serie A to geet as higher as possible and build for the next season, whoever will remain in charge in the summer. This is a solid squad that needs proper training and time to gel together, and with a few precise signings in the summer (midfield, defence), we can aim high the next season.

 

[ymsv]

I know the heads are hot right now, but the first one to blame is Theo. He got two embarrassingly stupid yellow cards. I would argue the first one is even worse: A foul at the center pulling Musa around like a maniac, which would disqualify him for the eventual last 16 first leg. Theo regressed a lot, looks uninterested most of the time, and only from time to time makes these forward runs that were his trademark.

The question is, can Conceicao/management find a way to motivate him and make him happy. Maybe he wants that raise which is not happening for some time now (I agree his current form does not deserve it), but it might be in our best interest to do it considering he is still one of the best full backs in the world, potentially the best one if we are able to get him back to speed.

Back to match, we looked great for 50 minutes, yes we didn't create that much and scored in first minute, but were still dangerous and allowed Feyenoord practically nothing. Theo's red card cost us everything. You could argue we should not have conceded after the red card, but the match changed and we're not so much better than Feyenoord to be able to press them even with 10 on the field.

This season is a disaster, that is something we can all agree on. But it doesn't mean some good things were not done. I say lets give Conceicao some time with a practically new attack, and a lighter schedule will most likely help us to push both in Coppa Italia and Serie A to geet as higher as possible and build for the next season, whoever will remain in charge in the summer. This is a solid squad that needs proper training and time to gel together, and with a few precise signings in the summer (midfield, defence), we can aim high the next season.

First one could be a red if the refer was more strict or the game at that point was more tight .

 

[Kaka92]

This season started badly and will end that way.

The human factor and the mistakes of all individuals are crucial, but this fucking season is haunted. Everything that could go wrong, it did.

 

[Alo88]

It may be growing relative to how it was in banter era

But it’s still nothing compared to growth in epl

Even fodder epl teams generate substantially higher revenue than mid table 4th ranked to 8th ranked serie a teams

Huge discrepancy due to the Tv deal. Clearly it isn’t good enough

They haven’t quoted tapped a lot of the markets.

This team isn’t worthy of higher ticket prices

No sane person should pay for these dorks.

Need a competent management firstly
Get the stadium sorted
Sort out brand and marketing which has taken steps in the right direction but due to lack of sporting ambition they perennially self destruct by buying non compatible players. Lose key matches in public eye that lowers the brand value every time. No one really respects Milan anymore and it’s evident everywhere.

I get the frustration, and I don’t disagree that Serie A as a whole is miles behind the Premier League in terms of revenue growth. The TV rights situation has been a disaster for years, and that’s not something Milan alone can fix – it’s a league-wide issue that holds back every club in Italy, mind you.

As for ticket prices, I totally understand why fans feel they should reflect the team’s performance. But at the same time, if the club wants to remain competitive, they have to find ways to increase revenue. It’s a tricky balance, and while Milan has taken big steps in the right direction commercially and a leading-position compared to other Serie A clubs, there’s obviously still room to grow. I mean, without meaning to be disrespectful, but when you say "this team isn’t worthy of higher ticket prices" – well, fair enough, then don’t pay them. But let’s not turn around and complain when the club doesn’t just “pay up” for every shiny new signing or contract extension. Or at the very least, let’s acknowledge that the players are the main drivers behind increasing costs, not the management.

I also get what you mean about sporting ambition. The last few years have been a mix of progress and frustrating missteps (well, mostly frustrating missteps, to be fair), and that naturally affects how the club is perceived. But even with all that, Milan remains one of the most followed, valuable and commercially successful club in the world – even after a decade in the abyss. Would it be even better if we won consistently? Of course. But the idea that Milan’s brand is in shambles just isn’t based on reality.

Would a new stadium and better long-term planning help? Absolutely. But those things take time and, ironically, require exactly the kind of investment and financial discipline you're criticizing. That’s why the club is being cautious. I think we all want to see Milan take the next step – it’s just a matter of how to get there in a sustainable way and if we have the right personel leading the sporting side (I guess we all agree we don't or that we're lacking imperative figures like an experienced SD).

 

[WILL2K]

Yes Theo was inexcusable and either needs to be sold or needs a viable backup.

However, despite the individual errors, how can we only score 1 goal against this version of Feyenoord in 3 out of 4 halves? This is not a big team. A smaller team who sold their best attacker (to us) with key players out - this is embarrassing at all levels, like a joke to be honest.

All in all, I agree there is something toxic going on, it starts with the leadership (as always). They need to be investigated and held accountable. I think the passion is gone, when you have the leadership/management that are so business-oriented and ruthless, no one feels safe and it is difficult to commit. Still unprofessional attitudes are not acceptable.

I am proud of Pavlovic - they tried to sell him, he fought like a man, gave everything, the real lion in our team. We need someone like him in the midfield. Thiaw has been good for most part this season.

I will give Conceicao the benefit of doubt but throwing Bart in yesterday was a bad move. 10 vs 11 was still doable. I would also have kept Reijnders instead of Felix as he has more energy and the latter was ineffective yesterday.

Top 4 and hopefully Coppa Italia win will make this season salvageable. But underwhelming season overall.

 

[vB9]

Calmed down a bit.

Do you guys think management’s decision to accept Como’s offer break Theo?

I don’t quite understand what the management’s thought process here. Yes it’s good money, close to 50m with add-ons. But do they really expect Theo to accept to go to Como mid-season to fight for Serie A survival?

I really think Theo didn't take it very well, management should know Theo is unstable, easily distracted and immature. Why unsettle him further at this crucial moment of the season?

More often than not success is more a result of heart than talent. Stupid management also tried to push Pavlovic out during winter mercato. In return Pavlovic reacted like a lion (not Ibra). You can clearly see him showing “I fight and die to fucking show you I deserve this shirt” mentality on the pitch.

They didn't embarrass theo but themselves

 

[sheva]

Literally nothing changed from this

Only back then it was cute

Same smug attitude