The Rumour Commode XLVII: Foamseca is out

[vB9]

Leao in the second leg:

- 5/11 successful strokes;
- 8/18 won martial arts;
- 0/5 precise long gears;
- 24 lost balls.

:фу ты:

I like MfR

 

[vB9]

Literally nothing changed from this

Only back then it was cute

Same smug attitude

Lol. Actually, tbt, this was epic... i liked it. Took the guy out and just walked

 

[vB9]

As it seems Cardinale clown has realized we need a SD in the club. Eureka! And SD will arrive in the summer.

Whoever it is I hope he brings one or 2 complete players for the midfield! I'm sick of half players. Strong but can't pass, fast but dumb, can pass but can't defend etc. Find 2 complete players ffs, a no.6 and 6/8.

Fofana ain't a top player. I'm sorry. He's a solid one but that's it. Musah is too wild and not smart enough + can't cross/shoot.

Reijnders and Felix will do what they do the rest need to be changed!

Man, i needed to to see you today. I also need to see PS

 

[Nestafan]

The more I watch it, the less I understand what his plan was here.

You either play it and try to assist/score or you make sure there's contact. Even if it is not a penalty, at least it will not be a yellow. With VAR being around for nearly a decade it is impossible to get such a penalty. What was this idiot thinking? Is he thinking at all?

Now a forfeit for Theo should be to kick Bishop Brennan up the arse for being such a big cheating bastard

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

A football team winning trophies how disgusting!
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What you want from a sports club is financial Scudetto’s
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I'm such a horrible demanding cunt!

 

[Soldier_of_god]

I get the frustration, and I don’t disagree that Serie A as a whole is miles behind the Premier League in terms of revenue growth. The TV rights situation has been a disaster for years, and that’s not something Milan alone can fix – it’s a league-wide issue that holds back every club in Italy, mind you.

As for ticket prices, I totally understand why fans feel they should reflect the team’s performance. But at the same time, if the club wants to remain competitive, they have to find ways to increase revenue. It’s a tricky balance, and while Milan has taken big steps in the right direction commercially and a leading-position compared to other Serie A clubs, there’s obviously still room to grow. I mean, without meaning to be disrespectful, but when you say "this team isn’t worthy of higher ticket prices" – well, fair enough, then don’t pay them. But let’s not turn around and complain when the club doesn’t just “pay up” for every shiny new signing or contract extension. Or at the very least, let’s acknowledge that the players are the main drivers behind increasing costs, not the management.

I also get what you mean about sporting ambition. The last few years have been a mix of progress and frustrating missteps (well, mostly frustrating missteps, to be fair), and that naturally affects how the club is perceived. But even with all that, Milan remains one of the most followed, valuable and commercially successful club in the world – even after a decade in the abyss. Would it be even better if we won consistently? Of course. But the idea that Milan’s brand is in shambles just isn’t based on reality.

Would a new stadium and better long-term planning help? Absolutely. But those things take time and, ironically, require exactly the kind of investment and financial discipline you're criticizing. That’s why the club is being cautious. I think we all want to see Milan take the next step – it’s just a matter of how to get there in a sustainable way and if we have the right personel leading the sporting side (I guess we all agree we don't or that we're lacking imperative figures like an experienced SD).

Yea getting stadium sorted at the expense of sporting ambition to win titles even if we are utilizing a cautious approach will not cut it. Winning matters more than anything. Some people kept predicting inters demise almost every season due to their financial constraints yet here they are challenging for titles in all competitions.

Why? Competent management. They have marotta. This actually helps grow the brand value further. You may feel like Milan’s brand has grown overall and that is true but in relative terms compared to other top clubs it’s quite poor. Keep going how we are currently by moving backwards in terms of sporting ambition! Won’t be long before another banter era

Yea and we all saw how they waste the money that was generated by spending on useless players like Emerson. No fan is asking for brand new shiny toy. There were plenty of players available for free too. Cheaper deals at cut price. Smart deals. Those deals were passed on. Club decided to over pay for players their data predicted were under valued under some moronic pretext.

 

[vB9]

I am so angry. Not at theo but just how the team retreated after he got sent off. It was though they didnt even believe they could do it. I understand the situation but the complete lack of leadership in this team is the biggest problem. No one said calm down, no one said keep hold of possession etc as best as we could. The best example of this was when musah just stood still and didnt run for the ball, total confusion, he had lost his head. Its a mentality issue, football iq issue etc, and most importantly comes from a lack of leadership in defence, and especially midfield. We dont have anyone to play or dictate the game. And i think that is the worse thing when i look at this team. There is literally no one who can calm the situation down for a few mins. Secondly as much as everyone says we played well for 50mins, it was still the same old stuff of passing it around and around them. Yes they did f all but of course they will with 18 year old up front and half their team missing. Finally Felix has been horrible, we have a felix in leao we cannot afford another one when we have a midfield like this. And finally, how can every team bring younger players to play in these games when they have injuries and they play well but we never do so? Surely we have someone with more energy and guts than fofano?

This!

Going off the game thread, ppl were complaining abt theo from the 5th min... probably did us a fav with his red, who's to say he wudntve caused more harm by staying on.

Milan shud be comfortable playing 10 v 11... its not a tough ask... you make the pitch smaller by being more compact, you keep the ball more, you transition faster... all these things a big team shud know.

 

[sheva]

It's too bad we have the lower hand in terms of negotiating a sale of Theo, given his weak performances and remaining contract length.

To me, Theo looks demotivated and unhappy being here, which - in my opinion - should result in a sale as soon as possible. The old days with a smiling Theo having the best days of his life with Castillejo and Brahim Diaz are long gone. Now, we - as fans - actually have high expectations for him, and he doesn't seem to thrive under this sort of pressure.

Even though Theo - on his best days - is one of the strongest fullbacks in the world, we cannot risk playing him when he costs us a goal/brain fart each game. My patience is gone. Not only with him but also with the way this club is managed.

Oh no, Theo doesn't have his friends on the pitch/his daddy isn't there to hold his hand during training

Almost it's like a Sunday league voluntary participation and not a salary that top tech ceo's make

 

[tonyb]

The management are lucky I guess - lets all point the finger at Theo - we're an amazing club otherwise.
Reijnders playing every single minute of the season and Fofana doing pretty much the same thing.
Adli going out on loan and them being above us in the table - must tell you something.

I'll bang the drum that we have no leaders and just 2 CM's - Kjaer, Giroud and Paolo..that's a serious hit.
Respect Pavlovic. One of the few men at the club.

 

[IL-Capitano]

Yea getting stadium sorted at the expense of sporting ambition to win titles even if we are utilizing a cautious approach will not cut it. Winning matters more than anything. Some people kept predicting inters demise almost every season due to their financial constraints yet here they are challenging for titles in all competitions.

Why? Competent management. They have marotta. This actually helps grow the brand value further. You may feel like Milan’s brand has grown overall and that is true but in relative terms compared to other top clubs it’s quite poor. Keep going how we are currently by moving backwards in terms of sporting ambition! Won’t be long before another banter era

Sporting success is the greatest way to build a sporting franchise or brand. Winning trophies helps all other areas growth be it financial, marketing and brand.

The stadium, financial stability and marketing /brand success are all dependent on sporting success in a Sporting Venture.

 

[Cloren]

I have to say that the main reason why I was never a fan of Theo in general is because he lacks class and sportsmanship. Yesterday wasn’t the first time he dived but the first time he got sent off for it. He was always an emotional hot-head that would cost us match with irrational mistakes. It’s just that before he was playing so well otherwise. But these antics were always there which I never liked because it’s unprofessional, it’s just that this season he’s been trash 24/7 so these antics are no longer tolerated.

It has always been the case. This fanbase use to glorify that aspect of his poor behaviour when he was playing well or when he got away with it or when he insulted Hakan’s mother in the Scudetto chant. But I always thought he was in general a cunt. I can’t deny that in football, we need some assholes here and there, however I’ll always be a fan of the bigger players who have class and good sportsmanship like Kaka, Sheva etc. The Ancelotti’s Milan was full of those players who gave it their all always but were always fair ans classy.

Theo was never that guy, even when he was glorified with this fanbase.

And now we are paying the price of his antics even in worse fashion.

For me the red card was well deserved. That first yellow was legit brain-dead nonsensical lack of fair play foul and the 2nd was a disgusting shambolic dive which I genuinely hate of todays game.

Theo needs to go, the game yesterday sentenced him to exile. I don’t care anymore, I want him out. Nothing will change my mind on this.

 

[Alo88]

Luca Diddi speaks in this video right after the final whistle. I won’t bore you with a full translation, but in essence, he is absolutely fuming – and, surprisingly, his anger is directed at Sergio Conceicao. Yes, the same Conceicao he has long defended and backed. But after yesterday's game, Diddi says there’s simply no excuse for him for what happened yesterday. The main architect of Milan’s defeat was none other than Conceicao himself.

Sure, Theo’s red card was an act of sheer stupidity and arrogance. Diddi has criticized Theo’s unprofessional attitude many times before, so for him, as he says in his analysis, this was just another inevitable meltdown that turned the game against Milan. BUT – the real death blow came AFTER that.

Diddi then makes it clear: Feyenoord is nothing special. A completely average team. No more, no less. And last night, they were severely weakened, missing several key players due to injuries. On top of that, Milan had literally taken their best player away just two weeks ago. So there is absolutely no excuse for collapsing like that at home, after an early lead, mind you, "just" because one player got sent off. Feyenoord simply isn’t that good.

So what did Conceicao do so wrong? According to Diddi, Bartesaghi should NEVER have been subbed in (and I fully agree, I said the same thing yesterday). He’s barely good enough for Milan Futuro, let alone for a Champions League night in a do-or-die match. Throwing him into such a high-stakes situation? Pure insanity. But it gets worse: why on earth did Conceicao take Giménez off and leave the lightweight Felix on to lead the attack instead? MADNESS!

With those changes, Diddi repeats, Conceicao killed any defensive stability and attacking threat Milan had left. And you could see it immediately. Feyenoord – again, a SEVERELY WEAKENED Feyenoord – took control of the game in OUR stadium right after Theo’s red, all because Conceicao responded by subbing in Bartesaghi and taking out Giménez. The equalizer came almost instantly, and from that moment on, it was game over.

Yes, Theo will take most of the heat from the media and the fans. But Conceicao was just as guilty. With the right substitutions, Milan could have – no, SHOULD have – won even with ten men. Keep Musah at LB, sub off Felix, bring in Fofana instead. OR, if you really have to take Musah off, at least bring in Terracciano and not Bartesaghi.

Theo initiated it – but it was Conceicao too who turned this game into a disaster.

 

[Master Smurf]

Oh damn - 17 pages

The aftermath is real

 

[ACM14061988]

Fonseca after the Red Star game warned us and it happened, he must be very happy. Anyway, if we win Coppa Italia and finish 4th it's a season to remember, one of the best of the last 15 years, this is the reality

 

[AC Kid]

The real reason for the elimination was not scoring an early second despite the first minute goal… 60+ minutes at san siro against shitty feyenoord to score another before the red card… the unwritten rules of football say the longer the small team stays in the game the more likely you are going to get fucked

Too much bitterness

 

[vB9]

So what did Conceicao do so wrong? According to Diddi, Bartesaghi should NEVER have been subbed in

@nonsonoqui needs to carry sum of the blame on this

 

[Fabio]

Fonseca was right all along

 

[Pigeon]

Fonseca after the Red Star game warned us and it happened, he must be very happy. Anyway, if we win Coppa Italia and finish 4th it's a season to remember, one of the best of the last 15 years, this is the reality

agreed

problem is we won’t win coppa and finish top 4

 

[BrianAC]

Lets see what happens now.

The first half yesterday was one of the best i saw this season. We played like a team for a change. Even Mussah looked good.

So there is enough the build on but is it enough to save the season? Like i said before, the rollercoaster in results is not good. So we need to beat Torino and from there on continue. With a game in hand and also with more rest for the players something is still possible for top 4. But is all on us - are we willing to take this bet???

Let see Saturday

 

[rozimilan]

The more I watch it, the less I understand what his plan was here.

You either play it and try to assist/score or you make sure there's contact. Even if it is not a penalty, at least it will not be a yellow. With VAR being around for nearly a decade it is impossible to get such a penalty. What was this idiot thinking? Is he thinking at all?

I'm not sure. He appeared to hit the ground instead of the ball, from this angle I see less of a dive.

 

[Bird]

i dont like Santi playing through balls for Felix, i want the reversal

While I understand your point, I think this is a good thing, as it makes us unpredictable. The opponent not knowing where danger might be coming from and always on their toes is great for us, as appose to "oh, lets just mark Leao out of the game and just watch Milan collapse".
We need this versatility, and I'm glad that Santi can play with his back to the goal.
This is also a sign that he isn't just a Mexican Piatek.

 

[Kaka92]

We got a red card very early, that's why I even understood the decision to step back and play on the counterattack, because if we had stayed offensive, they would almost certainly have scored in 40 minutes anyway. We are not Real Madrid to play with 10 players without problems, it is a serious deficit for us.
I even understand the decision to leave Felix, who can create his own goalscoring chances out of nothing, because if Gimenez had stayed on the pitch, who the hell would have created chances for him?

BUUUT, they scored anyway. AAAND, there it is.

But it's easy to be smart now. I don't think either option would have worked last night.


And while I agree that Sergio could have done some things differently, I really don't agree that he is a bigger culprit than Theo.

1.Theo
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5. everyone else

 

[Massaro94]

This cl choke is going in second tier hall of fame

Let's not kid ourselves here

We took the oppositions main goal threat.

This most certainly belongs in the top tier hall of fame in terms of embarassment.

Can't believe Milan are out in Feb after the way Fonz had set us up for top 8

 

[bill0621]

We could have won even with 10 men if everyone had the workrate of Pavlovic.

But this team will never be able to do that with Leao (and Felix) on the pitch, others were already covering for their off-ball slacking and when down to 10 men, their workrate were exposed.

 

[bill0621]

Fonseca after the Red Star game warned us and it happened, he must be very happy. Anyway, if we win Coppa Italia and finish 4th it's a season to remember, one of the best of the last 15 years, this is the reality

What did he say? I missed that part.

 

[ACM14061988]

What did he say? I missed that part.

He said

"I know that I work every day to do well and teach the team. I don't know if everyone in the team can say this. We have the ambition to get here and give everything... and we haven't done it." And again: "When we enter a decisive match like this and we have this type of attitude, without giving everything for this shirt, things are difficult. We have the obligation to give everything. You can miss a pass, but it's difficult to watch this. I will never stop. I have a clear conscience. If there is a need to bring the boys from Primavera or Milan Futuro, I will do it. Without problems"

 

[ymsv]

He said

"I know that I work every day to do well and teach the team. I don't know if everyone in the team can say this. We have the ambition to get here and give everything... and we haven't done it." And again: "When we enter a decisive match like this and we have this type of attitude, without giving everything for this shirt, things are difficult. We have the obligation to give everything. You can miss a pass, but it's difficult to watch this. I will never stop. I have a clear conscience. If there is a need to bring the boys from Primavera or Milan Futuro, I will do it. Without problems"

Actually he did it .

 

[forward]

The more I watch it, the less I understand what his plan was here.

You either play it and try to assist/score or you make sure there's contact. Even if it is not a penalty, at least it will not be a yellow. With VAR being around for nearly a decade it is impossible to get such a penalty. What was this idiot thinking? Is he thinking at all?

There probably was some minimal contact and that's why he decided to dive.

But the way he dropped was totally theatrical, the dive was absolutely obvious even without VAR.

 

[Forza Rossoneri]

This is precisely why we need Sandro Tonali back.

The only time he would go down is while trying to score, or win the ball back.

 

[Rickaka]

Let's not kid ourselves here

We took the oppositions main goal threat.

This most certainly belongs in the top tier hall of fame in terms of embarassment.

Can't believe Milan are out in Feb after the way Fonz had set us up for top 8

We took their 1st striker weeks ago, they fired their coach and gave up on this season, their best midfielder and player in general, their best goalie, their best striker and their best LB were out, and it was the youngest squad Feyenoord ever fielded in CL

There are literally no excuses for us. Conceicao looked lost as well.