The Rumour Commode XXXIV: From Mandela to Mugabe

Do you owe a jersey from other club/s?

  • Yes, from a tier 1 club (man u, chelsea, bayern, barca, etc)

    Votes: 8 8.7%
  • Yes, from a tier 2 club (leicester, leipzig, roma, sevilla)

    Votes: 3 3.3%
  • Yes, from a tier 3 club (midtable/lower rank club)

    Votes: 12 13.0%
  • I am da Milan and da Milan only

    Votes: 77 83.7%

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This is the point I made a few months ago and a few jumped on me

I'm certain Theo, Bennacer etc. all get renewed at max 4-4.5m per year cuz they haven't been around for as long and as consistent as Franck. Would not surprise me if its less. Theo imo got this and another potential renewal before we have to sell

Their salaries are lower than Kessie's current, and despite being top someone like Hernandez cannot possibly unhappy if he got his salary tripled.
PSG are very happy with their new LB anyways
 

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I will be sorry to see Kessie go if he does leave, but I am curious what's going on in the dressing room/behind the scenes. Between him and Calhanoglu being best budz and what Calabria said about hoping his words turn into actions, I wonder if he's not quite as much part of the group or if he's less invested in the whole project. I don't remember any rumours of conflicts or him not getting along with other players, but it just seems weird to want to leave Milan now, when things are going so well and he could have a decent salary increase (even if it's not 8.5m - but at these numbers really what difference does an extra million make??)

Everything seemed perfectly set up for him to stay for a long time, so I don't really understand what would be so much more appealing about somewhere like Tottenham. Unless he's just always dreamed of playing in the PL or something?
 

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Sei più felice di lavorare con Ibrahimovic o con Cristiano Ronaldo? "Cerco sempre di imparare da loro, sono due grandi giocatori. Sono più felice di condividere il campo con CR7 perché è un giocatore che ammiro molto".

Leao asked if he's happier working with Zlatan or Cristiano Ronaldo: "I always try to learn from them, they're both great players. I'm happier to share the pitch with CR7 because he's a player I admire a lot."

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Looking on Twitter, It seems the derby was a great advert for Serie A…especially after they watched a lame Manchester derby earlier.
 

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Leao asked if he's happier working with Zlatan or Cristiano Ronaldo: "I always try to learn from them, they're both great players. I'm happier to share the pitch with CR7 because he's a player I admire a lot."

:head:

"with both" 😄
 

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Looking on Twitter, It seems the derby was a great advert for Serie A…especially after they watched a lame Manchester derby earlier.
Manchester derby isn't lame, its united that was lame and the world (literally) of plastic fans supports united.

Milan Derby is something else,
Hakan made it to headline and i got mixed reports
how is FIF reacted to Hakan?
 

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Looking on Twitter, It seems the derby was a great advert for Serie A…especially after they watched a lame Manchester derby earlier.
One of the most attractive factors about Serie A is the big matchups hardly ever disappoint

Whereas in England most of them are a snooze fest
 

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Manchester derby isn't lame, its united that was lame and the world (literally) of plastic fans supports united.

Milan Derby is something else,
Hakan made it to headline and i got mixed reports
how is FIF reacted to Hakan?
"big game player, all of them hoping that he'll start being consistent from now on etc"

they're in for a treat :lol:
 

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I don't understand how some people can still defend Kessie. He already earns a lot of money and was offered a raise. He's one of he the heighest earners in the squad. What more does he want?! He's behaving like Dollarumma. Proclaiming his love for the logo, for the club, for the fans, but in the meantime their is still no signature. At the same time he's regressing on the pitch. What is left of the confident power house? He was dribbling into his own penalty box and got shoved aside by Hakan. :lol: It's a joke.
 

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Kinda crazy we havent scored from open play since Bologna. Thats 4 games.

got 2 wins and 2 draws :proud:
True, but against Roma we scored two irregular pretty nice goals from open play, one of them really being very very close from onside (like 10cm or so).

But I'm glad we can score much more from standards now that Calhagugu isn't taking our setpieces anymore.
 

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I don't understand how some people can still defend Kessie. He already earns a lot of money and was offered a raise. He's one of he the heighest earners in the squad. What more does he want?! He's behaving like Dollarumma. Proclaiming his love for the logo, for the club, for the fans, but in the meantime their is still no signature. At the same time he's regressing on the pitch. What is left of the confident power house? He was dribbling into his own penalty box and got shoved aside by Hakan. It's a joke.
Donna played great until the last minute & on a level of the best GK out there.
Kess is regressing by the day.
I really hope he turns down 6.5mil.
I prefer he fuck off over getting that salary.
 

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I don't understand how some people can still defend Kessie. He already earns a lot of money and was offered a raise. He's one of he the heighest earners in the squad. What more does he want?! He's behaving like Dollarumma. Proclaiming his love for the logo, for the club, for the fans, but in the meantime their is still no signature. At the same time he's regressing on the pitch. What is left of the confident power house? He was dribbling into his own penalty box and got shoved aside by Hakan. :lol: It's a joke.
False. Donnarumma showed great performance until the end of his contract.
 

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Donna played great until the last minute & on a level of the best GK out there.
Kess is regressing by the day.
I really hope he turns down 6.5mil.
I prefer he fuck off over getting that salary.

Donna at least played well while whoring for money. Kessie has had 1 or two good games this season. It really is a joke.
 

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I never said that Gigio didn't perform on the pitch, but he behaved like a little bitch during every negotiation while proclaiming his love for Milan.
Looks like Kessie is going the route of Kebab rather than Dollar
 

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according to NonEvoluto we initiated contacts with Atalanta for the potential transfer of Palomino who was proposed to us by his agent incase Romagnoli decides not to renew his contract

 

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according to NonEvoluto we initiated contacts with Atalanta for the potential transfer of Palomino who was proposed to us by his agent incase Romagnoli decides not to renew his contract

Still waiting for the day where one of these #WhatsApp rumors come true
 

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Still waiting for the day where one of these #WhatsApp rumors come true
yeah :D he was right a few times linking us with players but nothing concrete really..also Palomino makes little sense, another older, slower defender..
 

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I wrote this crazy long post in the match thread, and it literally is all the things I want to say here, so, I'm copying-and-pasting it. It's a reply to an Inter fan, who is always respectful and level-headed, but I was being an asshole. Anyway, yeah, this is all in my head:

The major issue I have with you is the idea that the ref was consistent. Let me give you an example: your #20 instigated our fans, who used to be his fans (well, not really, but he used to play for us). No yellow card. Ibra, on the other hand, got racially abused by Roma fans, and did something similar, but he got a yellow card.

I'll say this about the two pens, both of them were created by unnecessary errors by our players. Kessie doesn't need to dribble where he did. Toure lost track of a ball that he could have easily just kicked away. The second penalty I'm less angry about--however the idea that Ibanez "got" the ball against Ibra in our game against Roma, when if Ibanez did get the ball, it was after hitting Ibra; so if that (Ibra pen) was scandalous, then Toure got the ball on Darmian. But whatever, Toure was stupid, Darmian was smart, second pen, I have quibbles more with the discourse of fans and the media than I do with the call.

However, the Kessie pen, was laughable. I understand why it was given, but in the world where VAR exists, your #20 hit Kessie first. Considering the uproar that came up from Dumfries kicking the foot of a Juve player for a pen, and how Inter fans howled, I think the fact that your player hit ours first, that was ridiculous. And the way I look at it, if a tangle of legs (which again, was stupid by Kessie) is a penalty, then Ibra getting shoved by one of your 3 CBs (forgot who) should be a penalty in the first half. However, that would have been a soft penalty (the Ibra situation), as was the first of your two pens. I think most refs would say "this is too big a game to give that as a penalty," and we would have fought over it after the game.

Regardless, I think Inter fans should stop crying about refs. The refs have been helping you this season. Empoli was robbed of the most stonewall of stonewall penalties, and you all have the audacity to talk about refs?

But let's get back to this match. TWICE the ref stopped the game, when we had the advantage, attacking-wise. Why? Because one of your players were down. Mind you, it was not due to head injuries. There are no rules that allows the ref to do that. We can keep playing. But the ref stopped it. Which allowed your team to reset and clear their lines, twice. I seem to remember your team being extremely upset about this issue. Oh wait, no, you guys were hypocrites about it, my bad.

Furthermore, your team is setup to just play ugly. Like, let's be honest here. Your team's history is predicated on playing ugly. Your two most important managers are Herrera and Mourinho, and their trademark is doing what? Playing ugly. Even when Moratti was spending like crazy, getting you R9, Recoba, etc, who did you put in charge? Cuper.

Your current team does not have finesse. Dzeko is class, I have a soft spot for him, and Martinez, when he accidentally tries to kick a ball but it hits off his shin, can score some goals--but your team is really setup to play ugly. Conte was perfect for that. You guys played on the counter, which is what ugly, small teams do. Even with Simeone as your coach, who loves to attack with reckless abandon. Barella is an impressive little rat, but he gets away with so many fouls because he's Italy's sweetheart.

Your team didn't get a single yellow card. Think about that. Your team, with goons like Skirinar (the most overrated defender in Serie A), Brozovic (underrated player), De Vrij (who I rate highly), Bastoni (who I rate even higher [for his potential]) your team is just goons. Brozovic should have been sent off for the series of professional fouls he committed. Barella and Brozovic (especially) hit our players, several times. Brahim was hit multiple times, but couldn't get a foul, just because he was being honest (too honest) and kept trying to push through the fouls of your team. The reason you guys could continue to play your ugly counter-attacking style was because the ref allowed you to, by not penalizing you for that.

The idea that you "dominated" is hilarious. Why? Because your attacking plays were allowed by the ref! Let's go over a few examples: when your #20 hits a shot, that goes across the face of the goal, Tonali, who is going to get to the ball, is pushed in the back by Bastoni, Tonali gets pushed into Kalulu, our left-back (we were missing Theo Hernandez, who would have torn your team to shreds, btw), giving your #20 the space to shoot. In Serie a, that kind of stuff is called a foul, constantly. But fine, let's pretend you can do that now.

Let's use another example: later on, a deflection goes to the by-line. Kjaer is ahead of Dzeko, and as he goes to shield the ball, he's in front of Dzeko. Dzeko, leads with his elbow, hitting Kjaer in the back, so he can win the ball, before passing superbly to Vidal, whose shot is blocked.

I can keep going, but I'm sure you can say: "but hey, Samaldinho, the ref was 'consistent'" and I would offer that he most certainly was not: a few minutes later, Skirinar loses the ball, Rebic is about to go clear, in a very similar manner to Dzeko, but the ref says it was a foul. Replays show that Rebic did not touch Skirinar. This was NOT a game where the ref allowed play to go both ways, no, he consistently allowed you to play tough, which would be fine, if we were allowed to be tough, which we weren't.

Since Milan fans love to hate on their team, because that is "objective," when even Matteo Bonnetti says something pro-Milan, you know that it must be bad--and I'll commend you Inter fans, you guys tend to support your team. I wish Milan fans did that, but we have this delusion that if we take positions that are opposite to our favor, even if it ridiculous, it makes them "objective." Yes, you had chances, but your chances were created through lax refereeing.

Mind you, you couldn't score on us through open play. And if you're going to say, "but we had chances!" So did we. More than you, with a handicap of the ref being against us. Ibra made Handa make an amazing save. Ibra also almost curled in a shot. We hit the bar. Kessie, the moron, should have slotted in the rebound. Rebic had shots deflected similar to your shots. Leao had shots, too. Also, we consistently threatened you on set-pieces. Imagine if we got the fouls we deserved, how many more dangerous situations would we have had?

The idea that you had the "upper hand" is cute when we had more possession (60% in the first half) and more shots than you, with your xG sky-high because of penalties, but ours superior outside of that. We had the better chances, your team wasn't penalized for their typical cynical playstyle, which is part-and-parcel to your history, both recent and historical, while we were missing two of our world-class players, and you had your full squad.

I wish our officials and players complained about refs as much as you do, perhaps we'd be able to pressure the refs to help us. I'm not even being fake here, it annoys me, because refs have been hurting us more than you. Refs have been helping you.

Whatever, enjoy your moral victory, and just pray that we aren't full strength when we face you next, because we've had half our squad out and we're top of the league. It was injury luck for you and against us last year that gave you the Scudetto, but we've had over 10 players missing, what's your excuse?

Enjoy the 700m plus in debts, by the way, I'm interested who you guys will sell next.
I really enjoy reading your posts. Did the guy reply something or just went numb?

Anyway other thing I thought to maybe see here was Vulture coming and proclaiming the best player in the world is #20. Has he gone dead? Or finally really went to the forums of the teams he loves?
 

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If we renew kessie then what happens later when he's up for renewal again? We learned from dollar. At this point despite myself personally wanting him to stay, it's best for the club to not be tied up in signature drama. That is not part of our culture.
 

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I really enjoy reading your posts. Did the guy reply something or just went numb?

Anyway other thing I thought to maybe see here was Vulture coming and proclaiming the best player in the world is #20. Has he gone dead? Or finally really went to the forums of the teams he loves?
Probably got a job.
 

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I never said that Gigio didn't perform on the pitch, but he behaved like a little bitch during every negotiation while proclaiming his love for Milan.
Dollarumma had a lot more right to ask for the amount he actually asked. His perfomance was always high classed and WC during his last four years with us. Same thing cannot be said about about Kessie, his perfomance was WC for roughly 1,5 years (middle of 2019/2020 season till end of last season), before that and after that, he's been nothing but average. No way does he deserve even 6,5 M, let alone 8,5M. If the likes of Barella is content with 5, Kessie should be content with 4.
 
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