The Rumour Commode XXXIV: From Mandela to Mugabe

[CapitanoMaldini]

Crazy what a difference this ownership has made. It’s exactly what this team needed. Now it’s time to take the next step with the stadium.

 

[Congo Powers]

As expected

No matter what people think how strong our brand is and the potential, the poor condition of Serie A (broken stadiums, poor marketing, corruption, racism) means that we will be always hampered by it. Especially considering the high valuation of the club, would have a hard time believing any big money investor would find it a worthwhile investment.

Maybe that will change once we have our own stadium, but the truth is, atm we really arent a sound investment despite the strength of the brand.

saudi arabia's brand is much better than serie a, just listen to amanda staveley

 

[ForzaMilan2]

Wonder what exactly she means by structure being a disaster. Not that it is a surprising statement, but it could have given us some insight into how investors are viewing the league.

It is run like other things are run in Italy. As an Italian, I can tell you that is not a good thing . For example, why can't they do a better job at marketing / promoting the league so they can drive some better TV deals, and why do they have to cave in to the demands of Rube and Inda rather that forcing them to clean up their affairs. Also, do you see something like Calciopoli happening in the other "big 5" leagues? Or the betting scandal that forced Milan in Serie B decades ago?

 

[MilanBG]

Amanda Staveley – the managing director of the PCP Capital Partners fund – has revealed that there were talks held over the potential purchase of AC Milan and Inter.

Staveley is part of the consortium that acquired Newcastle United recently and they certainly have a huge financial backing. There have been some rumours that the fund were looking at acquiring a Serie A club, and now the statements released to The Times regarding the interest of the PIF group confirms that speculation.

“We also spoke with Inter and Milan, but the problem was that the structure of the league was a disaster. We also looked briefly at Bordeaux. But now we are no longer looking at Inter,” she said (via Calcio e Finanza).

Elliott Management took control of Milan back in 2018 when Yonghong Li defaulted on the repayment of a loan due to the American hedge fund, and while there has always been rumours that they are looking to sell, they continue to commit to the Rossoneri through investments of capital and by pushing ahead with the new stadium project.

Did this nutcracker just say that PIF are not interested in buying merda?

I mean... she represents PCP obviously. Saying that 'we are no longer looking at merda' refers to PCP or to PIF?

 

[Ash]

saudi arabia's brand is much better than serie a, just listen to amanda staveley

Their brand is garbage

So obviously logic dictates in onvesting in a league and a team that has a low valuation and a reputed brand.

Their ownership of Newcastle is obviously an exercise to clean their image. EPL is the most watched league in the world and the most profitable. If they can bring a nothing club like Newcastle up to the forefront of course they will get more exposure.

They will get nothing by investing in a team in Serie A, whose brand, lets be honest, is pretty shit atm. Its a league run by senile old men who are still stuck in the dark ages. I mean, just the amount of issues clubs face to build a stadium should be enough of a red flag.

 

[ForzaMilan2]

Crazy what a difference this ownership has made. It’s exactly what this team needed. Now it’s time to take the next step with the stadium.

And yet lots of our fans keep complaining about every single decision made by Elliott or even our management. One of the reasons I like this forum is the generally positive attitude from people who post here.

 

[Samaldinho]

Would be deserved. Winning Scudetto with players they couldn't afford to buy in the first place let alone keep

I think the only reason I want Inter to be relegated is because their nickname for us (Bilan) is really stupid. Like, who cares? We own them when it matters.

Their fans are so trash that they impeded the team, throwing flares at Dida. What clowns.

 

[Samaldinho]

Their brand is garbage

So obviously logic dictates in onvesting in a league and a team that has a low valuation and a reputed brand.

Their ownership of Newcastle is obviously an exercise to clean their image. EPL is the most watched league in the world and the most profitable. If they can bring a nothing club like Newcastle up to the forefront of course they will get more exposure.

They will get nothing by investing in a team in Serie A, whose brand, lets be honest, is pretty shit atm. Its a league run by senile old men who are still stuck in the dark ages. I mean, just the amount of issues clubs face to build a stadium should be enough of a red flag.

The Saudis (and others from the Gulf) don't give a shit about the sporting or financial merits of the prem. They want to launder their reputation.

Getting into a market like Newcastle allows them to gain PR in a much easier way. Like Berlusconi taking over a traditionally left wing club to further his reputation.

 

[Cloren]

I want Inter relegated because they never got relegated before

 

[DonSilvio]

How the fuck did inter get Barella to extend so easily while we find ourselves in this Kessie bullshit?

 

[ForzaMilan2]

I think the only reason I want Inter to be relegated is because their nickname for us (Bilan) is really stupid. Like, who cares? We own them when it matters.

Their fans are so trash that they impeded the team, throwing flares at Dida. What clowns.

Yup. I had a much more open mind relating to Inter before I started reading comments on socials. "Bilan" and "second team in Milano" are particularly grating, given the relative history of the two clubs.

As background, my father was an Inter fan, and one of my two brothers is also a big fan. I grew up in Milano, and back then you would take advantage of any possible opportunity to dump on supporters of "the other team". But, living outside of Italy for a long time, I had mellowed out.

 

[VooDooDoll]

Crazy what a difference this ownership has made. It’s exactly what this team needed. Now it’s time to take the next step with the stadium.

elliott was lucky with timing - when we switched owners ivan already started to cleaning our roster from useless players (money to quality wise)
atalanta game (0:5) and final cleaning (also from leonardo trash) happened just before covid hit so we enter post covid era with small squad on rational wages (still caldara, conti but not many) - yet we ended in EL.
(but because of small roster it ends with krunic, hauge, samu to be our starters there so everything has good and bad sides)

other teams were spending a lot and were forced to sell (inter - hakimi and lukaku), let players to go free and some are with limited players because of budgets in the past (7uve with rugani, des etc)

 

[brk]

As expected

No matter what people think how strong our brand is and the potential, the poor condition of Serie A (broken stadiums, poor marketing, corruption, racism) means that we will be always hampered by it. Especially considering the high valuation of the club, would have a hard time believing any big money investor would find it a worthwhile investment.

Maybe that will change once we have our own stadium, but the truth is, atm we really arent a sound investment despite the strength of the brand.

I would imagine that the big clubs get their act together and form a superleague type competititon that would replace the Serie A by that point. Merging the Bundesliga, Serie A, Ligue 1 and La Liga into one European Premier League. Helps the European project, competes with the Premier League and the CL stays on a the cup competition same as it is now. Maybe still have national cup competitions, but a league for each country seems hard to compete with the PL. Only 1 club dominating Germany, 1 club dominating France, 2 or 3 clubs in Spain and for a while only 1 club in Italy (although this season is different). I really feel like this is an idea that they will eventually land on. Create the European premier league, and clubs get demoted back to their national league or promoted from them.

 

[brk]

Their brand is garbage

So obviously logic dictates in onvesting in a league and a team that has a low valuation and a reputed brand.

Their ownership of Newcastle is obviously an exercise to clean their image. EPL is the most watched league in the world and the most profitable. If they can bring a nothing club like Newcastle up to the forefront of course they will get more exposure.

They will get nothing by investing in a team in Serie A, whose brand, lets be honest, is pretty shit atm. Its a league run by senile old men who are still stuck in the dark ages. I mean, just the amount of issues clubs face to build a stadium should be enough of a red flag.

Also, we're close to getting a majority of non-Italian owners in Serie A, most of those being American. I'm not sure how the clubs vote when it comes to stuff like TV deals, etc, but we're reaching a point where those senile old men like Lotito will no longer be in the majority.

 

[brk]

And yet lots of our fans keep complaining about every single decision made by Elliott or even our management. One of the reasons I like this forum is the generally positive attitude from people who post here.

We're mostly all funded by Elliott and they pay the server costs, as long as we don't post images of Gordon.

 

[VooDooDoll]

shit promotion of serieA, outdated half empty stadiums, unknown players on the pitch (but it shouldnt be a problem), slow and defensive football (in trash way) in the past 10 years, small amount of cams and replays angles, transmissions with not great commentators (english quality)

last 7-8 years when inter and milan became irrelevant in serieA made italian league trash - only 7uve could play in ucl and keep player with intention to grow - other with good moments like napoli, roma with rudi.G or lazio are not the clubs that will create anything in long term.

 

[Samaldinho]

Yup. I had a much more open mind relating to Inter before I started reading comments on socials. "Bilan" and "second team in Milano" are particularly grating, given the relative history of the two clubs.

As background, my father was an Inter fan, and one of my two brothers is also a big fan. I grew up in Milano, and back then you would take advantage of any possible opportunity to dump on supporters of "the other team". But, living outside of Italy for a long time, I had mellowed out.

We all have shameful elements in our families, lol (I'm kidding).

bilan just is... stupid. I'm offended at the stupidity, but also, it is pitiful that they created a whole name for us. Its just sad. We just call them merda, great, move on.

How the fuck did inter get Barella to extend so easily while we find ourselves in this Kessie bullshit?

He is their Tonali, I can't wait to see them sell him while Tonali retires with 7 CL titles in a row and plays until he is 42, winning 3 CL titles in a row to end his career.

 

[Swagotelli]

Also, we're close to getting a majority of non-Italian owners in Serie A, most of those being American. I'm not sure how the clubs vote when it comes to stuff like TV deals, etc, but we're reaching a point where those senile old men like Lotito will no longer be in the majority.

That solves one problem but other problem of government remains though (stadiums etc)

 

[Rossonero81]

I don't want Inter relegated, because I want us to trash them for years to come.

 

[MilanBG]

I want merda relegated because it would be beyond hilarious Honestly, they fully deserved it after their disastrous financial results. However, we're talking about Italy, so nobody even bothered thinking about investigating them.

 

[brk]

That solves one problem but other problem of government remains though (stadiums etc)

Juve, Atalanta, Udinese and Sassuolo own their own stadium already. Inter and Milan will soon get our own as well. I think once our stadium is greenlit it will start a sort of domino effect where clubs like Fiorentina and Roma will push ahead with their stalled projects. There's too much money being newly invested in Serie for things to remain as they are and once they modern and forward thinking clubs reach a majority they can vote on measures that will ensure the league modernizes and invests in itself to become what it can be.

 

[Neruda]

Completely agreed with you, especially about his "low durability". For someone with body as big as Leao, he's surprisingly bad when going on duel, whether is shrugging off his marker or going into tackle. Even whoscores listed "holding on to the ball" as his weakness.

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Yes, Leao is playing every single matchs in recent months, while actually in all that games he doesn't run/cover too much. I think even Tomori is running/covering the ground much more than Leao.

If he doesn't improve his strenght/stamina, I think his maximum level would be "Good" player. I mean as an "Elite" level player, every team wan't to make him playing. Even on international friendly, nobody want to watch an "Elite" level player dissappearing after 15-30 minutes of play.

That's just my feeling though, anyone welcome to argue with some data (I tried to find it but I can't)

Whoscored is trash.

Leao is probably our best crosser. Man is a menace

 

[Mr. Milanista]

How crazy is it anyway Inter were allowed to win a Scudetto with players they could not afford to buy from the entire beginning? I mean what if everyone could just buy a super amazing team with players like Messi Ronaldo De Bruyne Rebic Haaland Ansu Fati etc, win the league and CL and then just ship everyone back (yes this is an extreme example to get the point across)? Doesn't this sound absurd? And how cant anyone see how absurd it is except for us? Are we the only ones who are smart or are we the dumb ones?

 

[WiLDinho]

How crazy is it anyway Inter were allowed to win a Scudetto with players they could not afford to buy from the entire beginning? I mean what if everyone could just buy a super amazing team with players like Messi Ronaldo De Bruyne Rebic Haaland Ansu Fati etc, win the league and CL and then just ship everyone back (yes this is an extreme example to get the point across)? Doesn't this sound absurd? And how cant anyone see how absurd it is except for us? Are we the only ones who are smart or are we the dumb ones?

Its within the rules to sell a player even if you didnt fully pay his fee.
So i dont know what the fuss about Inter selling Lukaku & Hakimi.
They didnt break any rule.

Whats absurd is them making gigantic losses without any comptabilities.

 

[Neruda]

Its within the rules to sell a player even if you didnt fully pay his fee.
So i dont know what the fuss about Inter selling Lukaku & Hakimi.
They didnt break any rule.

Exactly. Its low class but not illegal

 

[ROSSONERI7]

As expected

No matter what people think how strong our brand is and the potential, the poor condition of Serie A (broken stadiums, poor marketing, corruption, racism) means that we will be always hampered by it. Especially considering the high valuation of the club, would have a hard time believing any big money investor would find it a worthwhile investment.

Maybe that will change once we have our own stadium, but the truth is, atm we really arent a sound investment despite the strength of the brand.

i think the acceleration of buying clubs in Serie A (even lower leagues) is an indication of bigger changes coming.
they're are willing to do the structural work on a league level...lack of good structure which allows them to get these clubs for very low price.

it's like buying a nice house in a nice neighborhood vs buying one in a run down neighborhood but where other money people are starting to position themselves by buying properties.
Higher risk higher rewards.

Gazidis said in an interview that not only Milan has the highest potential it’s also in a league that has the highest potential.

I’m all for these new foreign buyers in Serie A, the business oriented ones, whose interest are linked to the league as a whole being good.

In the next few years, I believe they’ll start banding together to start their work on the league.

 

[MilanBG]

Wait... 'now we are no longer looking at Inter'
Does this mean they are still considering us, despite the state of Serie A?

 

[ROSSONERI7]

How the fuck did inter get Barella to extend so easily while we find ourselves in this Kessie bullshit?

same way we got Tonali to reduce his salary

 

[Qaas]

Wtf

Krunic haters?

not even worth hating on

 

[Qaas]

Am I the only one who saw the wild rumor saying that Pulisic wants to play more and that Genoa are interested in bringing him on loan? Imagine him on our RW... Scudetto confirmed

He is always injured though