The Rumour Commode XXXIX: A Cardinal Sin

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I wish they had deducted 1500 points but I’ll take it.
 

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It won’t stick and the punishment should have been way more severe. But I’ll take some some sort of punishment at least
 

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For those who speak Italian, here's Avsim speaking about the 15 points deduction. Avsim is a Juve fan but studied law (I think he also works in that environment). He's very good at explaining the legal matter in words even I can comprehend. And he's one of the only Juve fans I know of speaking very harshly about Agbellis desasters and he actually called those deductions already in October and why they'd be only the beginning in a legal fight that can easily drag for a couple of years but also easily end with Juve being relegated as things stand.

I haven't watched his latest video yet, I'll post a summary in English as soon as I did but maybe someone wants to watch it now with automatically generates subtitles so here you go:



So apparently this is what's going on, put in words as simple as possible, but take it with a grain of salt because I'm no expert neither:

The story about Juventus and the infamous plusvalenze originally went like this: Juve traded players with other teams at prices that were objectively much higher than their actual realistic market value in order to whitewash their own accounts. The best-known examples, who were anything but hidden back in the day: Pjanic-Arthur, Danilo-Caicedo, Caldara-Bonnucci (and many more).

In May, the competent authority decided that there was no such thing as an "objective" market value, that the market determined the price and that Juve therefore could not have valued the players too high. The case was thus closed.

Last September, however, the FIGC filed a motion to reopen the case because - and this is important - NEW information came to light. Namely, that Juve not only valued the exchanged players higher than was "objectively" realistic, but that they even gave the exchanged players HIGHER VALUES in their books than they had AGREED with the other teams. THIS is the offence that FIGC accuses Juve of and for which Juve was punished with the deduction of 15 points.

What happens next? Juve will appeal within 30 days. The competent authority will in turn have 60 days to uphold or reject the appeal. Either way, it will probably take three months (30+60 days) before we know for sure whether the point reduction will stand.

The point is this: Juve argues that they were punished twice for the same crime - which is of course not legally permissible. The FIGC, on the other hand, argues that there is new information on the table, which changes the situation and thus justifies reopening the case. Juve, on the other hand, replies that this is not the case and that there is no "new" information - they are not aware of any guilt. Only time will tell who is right. No information is available to the public. We are left with the battle of words between the parties.
 

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None of it really matters. Juventus will continue cheating like they have since their founding.

But

It’s always nice when people outside of Italy/Serie A fans are made aware of Juventus’ cheating and their eternal corrupting of Italian calcio.
 

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Please update standings on RnB main page

ladri still has their stolen points
 

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We aren't allowed to make fun of other clubs, that's wrong and unethical.

Yes, it’s the wrong thing to do. It’s morally disgusting and unethical. We shouldn’t do it by right.

However, we are morally disgusting and unethical people, so let’s fucking go at it.

Let’s all laugh at Juventus :ROFLMAO::g::lol:

RUBE 🤣🤣🤣

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See you guys in hell 💉💉💉
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Chiesa be serious, you don't want to be at that flithy club. The rw spot is yours!
 
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