The Rumour Commode XXXIX: A Cardinal Sin

[Milan2012]

Correct, its a separate issue. The points deduction was for new evidence in the plusvalenza case that shows Juve specifically not only did inflated plusvalenza (not illegal) but that they showed different numbers in their accounts from the publicly declared/paid amounts. They did something illegal that other clubs on the other side of the deal didn't.

The reason Agnelli and the board resigned was for the covid hidden payments. We're still waiting for the ruling on that one.

They also hit Paratici, sporting director, who was there until the end of the 20/21 season. But they didnt hit Marotta, CEO, who left during the 18/19 season.

Logically that would imply the offense took place during those two seasons. The two covid seasons. Meaning Juventus was really adjusting their books during covid, in both transfers and wages.

 

[Milan2012]

Correct, its a separate issue. The points deduction was for new evidence in the plusvalenza case that shows Juve specifically not only did inflated plusvalenza (not illegal) but that they showed different numbers in their accounts from the publicly declared/paid amounts. They did something illegal that other clubs on the other side of the deal didn't.

The reason Agnelli and the board resigned was for the covid hidden payments. We're still waiting for the ruling on that one.

This doesnt sound right either. If they were showing different numbers that would have repercussions all across uefa. But so far theyve only been punished by the figc.

 

[DonSilvio]

what in the fuck?

Blame the mods

 

[Nevermore]

This doesnt sound right either. If they were showing different numbers that would have repercussions all across uefa. But so far theyve only been punished by the figc.

So far

 

[brk]

This doesnt sound right either. If they were showing different numbers that would have repercussions all across uefa. But so far theyve only been punished by the figc.

This is what @Alo88 said that Italian guy that follows football law in Italy explained. I understood it as Juve fudging their numbers in their accounts even more than what the plusvalenza showed. So they maybe frontloaded more profit than they were actually claiming with FIGC.

We're still waiting for UEFA to punish Juve btw, for a multitude of offences.

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

I do NOT want anyone from Juve, let them rott, and their players.

Players obviously took the money knowing what was going on, shows character!!!!

No more Juve players, scum fucks!!!!

Happy Sundays chaps

 

[taura]

FIGC prosecutors wife on instagram

 

[Cloren]

 

[taura]

what exactly did we cook up with cuck - caldara swap? maybe figc is looking to reimburse us

 

[Milan2012]

Thats a reach. If they set that precedent Juves taking the whole league down with them.

But on our end, selling Bonucci for 38 million after buying him for 42mill a season prior, sounds about right. I don’t see the issue.

 

[MilanBG]

We exchanged both players for 30+ m which is about their actual worth at that time. What exactly is the problem here?
If we ever made a shady transfer, it is the Rebic-Silva exchange for 3 m each which is obviously not their real value.
Merda, who sell Pinamonti and Vanheusomething every summer and buy them back are safe though


We better get our shit together and start winning as Napoli may also get a points reduction. The Osimhen deal was absurd. One of the players going from Napoli to Lille had an interview saying that he has never even been to Lille and that this 'move' ruined his career. The guys are so bitter that they will do anything to sink Napoli and ADL.

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

Thats a reach. If they set that precedent Juves taking the whole league down with them.

But on our end, selling Bonucci for 38 million after buying him for 42mill a season prior, sounds about right. I don’t see the issue.

Fucking Bonucci man... What a fucking joke that was, Trojan fuck!!!

 

[Milan2012]

Fucking Bonucci man... What a fucking joke that was, Trojan fuck!!!

To think he holds our transfer record.

 

[Milan2012]

If we ever made a shady transfer, it is the Rebic-Silva exchange for 3 m each which is obviously not their real value.

Shady but it was undervaluation. I dont see how anyone but Fiore and Porto that missed on the resell clause would be mad about that.

 

[Milan2012]

To think he holds our transfer record.

This is funny.

 

[Thenebra]

This is funny.

Milan top 10 legends.

 

[Cloren]

 

[R.Akbar]

This is funny.

All i see is 2 Legends and Sham-ful eight

 

[Pigeon]

padre stumbling to another scudetto

 

[Milan2012]

Apparently Paratici’s “black book” would have a certain value theyd need by June 30, with no relevance to the outgoing player. They have “wiretapping” proof on him.

What I don’t get is, how is Marotta safe in all this? He was their CEO for 9 years, and he’s making these same sketchy deals at Inter.

 

[brk]

We exchanged both players for 30+ m which is about their actual worth at that time. What exactly is the problem here?
If we ever made a shady transfer, it is the Rebic-Silva exchange for 3 m each which is obviously not their real value.
Merda, who sell Pinamonti and Vanheusomething every summer and buy them back are safe though


We better get our shit together and start winning as Napoli may also get a points reduction. The Osimhen deal was absurd. One of the players going from Napoli to Lille had an interview saying that he has never even been to Lille and that this 'move' ruined his career. The guys are so bitter that they will do anything to sink Napoli and ADL.

Yes! If Juve got a points deduction for their weird shit then Napoli are highly likely to get something for the Osimhen deal. That one was insanely shady. Doubt we’ll get anything for Caldara/Bonucci, the deal wasn’t good for plusvalenza for us. We recorded a loss on Bonucci and eventually lost out on all of Caldara’s value. How did we benefit from that? It would be easy to argue that Caldara was worth that much at the time, and that his current value is the result of unfortunate injuries.

It would be so unfair to Napoli if they get denied the title because of something they did years ago, but I am so ready for it let’s gooooooo

 

[brk]

But I doubt that anyone besides Juve will get any punishment. The case was closed and only reopened because they have new evidence on Juve specifically.

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

This is funny.

I'd take Pippo, Bacca and Costa, that's it...

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

padre stumbling to another scudetto

To win while you're losing is champion mentality right there

 

[Milan2012]

But I doubt that anyone besides Juve will get any punishment. The case was closed and only reopened because they have new evidence on Juve specifically.

That was a case only on Juve and 8 other clubs(small clubs like Samp and etc) that were acquitted. If Giussepe Chine now starts investigating Napoli he might find something.

Still plusvalenza is hard to prove, Paratici just seems to have been very bad at it to get caught.

 

[VillaiN]

Lol we recorder loss in bonuci caldara deal iirc. Whats priblem with that? And they gave us broken asset.

Notice how shinter s never mentioned. And morata., like wtf??

 

[Milan2012]

These were the clubs investigated. Now I wonder what happens when they look into the other top team. Apparently Napoli are next.

In our case I remember including Olzer(5mill) in the Tonali deal with Brescia.

 

[Wild]

This is funny.

 

[Mario]

anyone else interest in Milan and football just really diminishing lately?

This shits dead and I think it finally struck me just how trash serie a n Italy is

could be twitter or the fact that I live in England n their fans finally got to me

Also fuck Jerry this guy just vanished. What was the point of this takeover

I’m off to drink penis envy tea

 

[MilanBG]

Yes! If Juve got a points deduction for their weird shit then Napoli are highly likely to get something for the Osimhen deal. That one was insanely shady. Doubt we’ll get anything for Caldara/Bonucci, the deal wasn’t good for plusvalenza for us. We recorded a loss on Bonucci and eventually lost out on all of Caldara’s value. How did we benefit from that? It would be easy to argue that Caldara was worth that much at the time, and that his current value is the result of unfortunate injuries.

It would be so unfair to Napoli if they get denied the title because of something they did years ago, but I am so ready for it let’s gooooooo

It's not unfair. The fact that is happened years ago doesn't change anything. Making some easy and unreal profits allows them the operate on the market with more comfort and to be able to keep their players. So, you could say that they are strong now because of these fake profits.
Imagine us selling Hauge for 35 m, Paqueta for 50 m and Piatek for 40 m. We would've been much stronger now, despite all these transfers happening years ago.