- Aug 24, 2015
- Reaction score
Uyghur thing was Arsenal. Germans "froze him out" because he deep throated Erdogans dick. Also, all this coincides with with him starting to suck as a football player, so...
Nice try with the hypocrite card though. You keep banging that drum
Like I said, Özil started to suck at the same time.There were calls for Russia to be stripped of the World Cup or boycotted in 2014 after it annexed Crimea and was blamed by the West for supplying arms to pro-Russian separatists suspected of shooting down Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 over eastern Ukraine.news.sky.com
Dude, the BBC and Gary Lineker are admitting that they're hypocrites and that they treated the 2018 world cup differently to how they're doing it with Qatar.
Deepthroated Erdogan? He met the dude and took some photos (https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...l-retires-german-national-team-discrimination). Now you're not allowed to meet people? Where's the freedom to be an individual that makes their own choices? Or is that only allowed when you get to choose who or what to fuck? So Ozil makes a political statement and he gets to be frozen out, and the German team make a political statement and they are celebrated? No hypocrisy here? Or are we now going to argue some forms of protest are good and some are bad, depending on your agenda or politics?
There is no argument here, the media is being extremely hypocritical of their coverage of the world cup. There is absolutely no denying this fact. The same people that are blasting Qatar have said next to nothing about China or Russia. This is a fact.
Not defending Qatar or the middle east at all. Just going after the hypocrites. Russia in 2018 had already annexed Crimea, already jailed and poisoned journalists and activists, and had been extremely anti LGBT. BBC didn't boycott the opening ceremony with a tirade against human rights. Same people acting holier than thou over qatar were taking photos with Putin.Like I said, Özil started to suck at the same time.
I haven't said anything regarding China, Russia, Qatar... But while you say next to nothing, which isn't true, the world does have a different relationship with China and Russia (well not anymore with Russia which I don't even need to tell you :lol). Don't know why you keep mentioning Russia, can they be more pharaia?
You said in an earlier post something about ethics/morality according to the west. Please don't dehumanize all of us from the middle east/not west. Women not being second class citizens and gays not being prisoned or killed for example isn't something western, it's decent humanity. Only certain countries go against that. Keep defending those countries with your whataboutism.
For shame Brk, for shame.
I think we agree more than we think.Not defending Qatar or the middle east at all. Just going after the hypocrites. Russia in 2018 had already annexed Crimea, already jailed and poisoned journalists and activists, and had been extremely anti LGBT. BBC didn't boycott the opening ceremony with a tirade against human rights. Same people acting holier than thou over qatar were taking photos with Putin.
You can try to change the argument or put words in my mouth, you do you. But the only thing i've been saying is that some of the people who have been extremely vocal about Qatar have said almost nothing against China or Russia when they had a similar global sporting event.
Wait, so when you say the word has a different relationship with Russia and China, you mean it's ok to just bully a smaller country knowing they can't fight back? Is that what you're saying?
Who said be quiet?I think we agree more than we think.
I wouldn't call it bullying, but for sure ordinary locals do suffer from it. Someone who tells their guests to stfu about human rights needs to be "bullied".
In general, my issue is the wayback-machine that people use to not deal with issues today. Why be quiet in 2022 because we were quiet 2018? Instead, let's speak up in 2026 as well.
Also, I don't care what BBC did or didn't (I hate the BBC, they're despicable).
I don't get it. Why isn't Qatari people point of view respected. Why does the world think it's fair to put their beliefs on them. In this day and age nobody is stuck in a country. You can leave anytime if you don't. I think I have had enough of certain cultures trying to impose their belief on others. This start to the Qatar world cup had been one of the best I can remember.
This is one of the silliest crusades I've seen.Not defending Qatar or the middle east at all. Just going after the hypocrites.
That's if there are no other left wing options for the suitors.Nah, as long as Leao has more than 1 suitor, he can be sold at a pretty decent price.
Respect the host. They gave you shitloads of money for bribing ,you gave them to Organize the World Cup ,now show some respect.That is simple.Russia got almost the same level of shit as Qatar, with a little saving grace of them having nukes and a football tradition. Also they were a lot better at keeping a facade, and while I agree that every country produces some stupid speeches Qatar is showing a very strong level of insensitivity and detachment. It is also one thing to have an alcohol ban but repeatedly going back on their word, mind you originally this was intended to be a summer world cup, is just showing a lack of respect towards the whole world cup. It feels like it started as a sports washing attempt and now became a toy that they are already bored of, not a single minute feels like there is some amount of love for the game itself, which so far is pretty unique.
Also western, especially politically western European moral horse is higher or rather better for the people, these countries still do shit but it is fundamentally wrong to pretend that they are anywhere close to the level of countries like Qatar. Nord Korea won't call out Qatar so who else should do it, if not the countries that are not perfect but at least better?
He was amazing ,real magician. I hope Bolton get back to Premier League. Leeds was also fell back to championship .I used to watch Premier League more. Bolton was real attraction ,often troubled top teams then.League one. The 3rd tier of English football. Okocha ?. So good they named him twice. I am Bolton through and through.