The Rumour Commode XXXVI - Mission Accomplished Edition

[Curupira]

Will this be Jonah Hill's RedBird's first act as new owners? Is this who their Excel file said would represent the best ROI? FOH

Depends, does Morata get on base? @Tantalis

 

[Hitchens]

Is it just me or would it be interesting to see Marco Nasti get some playtime next season?

 

[vB9]

So this needs a little tweeking, 3rd temple replaces the sand... maybe a kippah for Paolo? MB, darling

 

[Curupira]

Is it just me or would it be interesting to see Marco Nasti get some playtime next season?

What about Colombo? Keep loaning him out?

 

[Qaas]

Patosheva with the meltdown. Omg

 

[Hitchens]

Patosheva with the meltdown. Omg

 

[brk]

You forget that in modern football you can aim at the very top only if you invest adequately.
Now to expect that every season Maldini and the company will discover the new Leao and Theo is really rude.

But how do you know this? Why not wait until they fail and then blame them? Why be so emotional about a hypothetical?

 

[Samaldinho]

Isn't there an element of collective effort on the part of the whole of Serie A to make this even tangible?

I mean, sure we lead the way, but for us to be able to tap into those types of revenue streams I think the entire italian package has to be enhanced and made more attractive to more than an Italian audience and RnB.

Yes and no. You can make Milan a beacon a la Bayern, but getting to a Juve like place gets you there--having Juve and a healthy Inter, Roma, Napoli, etc is the base. The idea is that Serie A is undervalued and can grow.

With the amount of American funds putting money into Italy right now, I think there is an informal collective agreement on this assessment. The fact that CBS (one of the major broadcasters in America) is putting Milan games (and other Serie A games [but mostly ours]) on television rather than just streaming shows that they are seeing growth and potential.

If the EPL is Apple, then the Americans investing in Serie A see it as the potential Android, in America. Other markets will fluctuate on performance of the teams, because they are familiar with football. America is this huge whale that hasn't been developed yet.

 

[omer486]

Neymar's fee was the one that fundamentally fucked up the market. All those prices you quote came after Neymar.

Chelsea started off the insane spending, but PSG put gas lighter fluid on it, while Neymar's more than doubled the record.

It's not just about Neymar transfer fucking up the market. It's that revenues of football clubs now are much higher than they were back in the day. Most of the big clubs have always been run at a loss or close to break even and maybe sometimes a small profit. So if the revenues are much higher the transfer fees and wages are also going to be much higher.

Even before Neymar, Real paid around 115 mil for Bale and ManUtd paid around 120 mil for Pogba. The transfer fees have generally been on an ever increasing trend since at least the time Berlusconi took over Milan in 80s.

 

[Qaas]

Milan needed a jump in quality this summer. A great mercato. I was all for Investcorp money but uts a fact we dont know anything for real so...

I can say one thing though: Milan goal needs to be scudetto every year!

And that statemant about not needing to invest much to win is bullshit.

Say it louder

 

[vB9]

Milan fan and financial expert Felice Raimondo has published a thread on Twitter which presents his understanding of the situation and what it means that the club are now set to be bought by RedBird and not Investcorp.

“We will never know why the negotiation with InvestCorp was fell apart, but the disappointment for me lies in the fact that the Arab fund, given the contacts, could have brought related sponsors and therefore quickly increased revenues. Faster and less risky solution from a UEFA standpoint,” he began.

“Il Sole24Ore speaks of problems for the ‘earn out’ clauses, which is an additional amount to be paid to the seller once certain targets are reached (stadium? sporting results?). In any case, RedBird have consented to these clauses, closing the deal.

“Elliott, a fund that evaluates the best gain for its investors (above all things), according to rumours have ticked off the best conditions. That is, to sell at a high starting figure, remain as a minority shareholder and tomorrow earn even more with the stadium deal.

“That said, we certainly do not end up in bad hands. In fact, RedBird is a fund that specialises in sports and has much more experience in this area than InvestCorp. However, in the absence of related sponsors, the growth of revenues (and of the team) cannot be sudden but gradual.

“This means that Elliott’s work with similar methodologies will continue. Singer, however, will have the advantage getting a return on his investment immediately, if he remains in the minority, he will lose less money in the future (aum. of capital) and will get more when we have the stadium.

“From this point of view, if with InvestCorp – given the proportions, the activities and the contacts of the fund – we could imagine a Milan-only stadium, with RedBird I do not think it will happen. So for me the shared process with Inter will continue, we will see if in San Siro or elsewhere.

“In conclusion, the club will continue to be managed very well, if possible with more competence than before. The hope is to be able to get closer to a reality like that of Liverpool today in a decade.”

 

[patosheva]

Milan fan and financial expert Felice Raimondo has published a thread on Twitter which presents his understanding of the situation and what it means that the club are now set to be bought by RedBird and not Investcorp.

“We will never know why the negotiation with InvestCorp was fell apart, but the disappointment for me lies in the fact that the Arab fund, given the contacts, could have brought related sponsors and therefore quickly increased revenues. Faster and less risky solution from a UEFA standpoint,” he began.

“Il Sole24Ore speaks of problems for the ‘earn out’ clauses, which is an additional amount to be paid to the seller once certain targets are reached (stadium? sporting results?). In any case, RedBird have consented to these clauses, closing the deal.

“Elliott, a fund that evaluates the best gain for its investors (above all things), according to rumours have ticked off the best conditions. That is, to sell at a high starting figure, remain as a minority shareholder and tomorrow earn even more with the stadium deal.

“That said, we certainly do not end up in bad hands. In fact, RedBird is a fund that specialises in sports and has much more experience in this area than InvestCorp. However, in the absence of related sponsors, the growth of revenues (and of the team) cannot be sudden but gradual.

“This means that Elliott’s work with similar methodologies will continue. Singer, however, will have the advantage getting a return on his investment immediately, if he remains in the minority, he will lose less money in the future (aum. of capital) and will get more when we have the stadium.

“From this point of view, if with InvestCorp – given the proportions, the activities and the contacts of the fund – we could imagine a Milan-only stadium, with RedBird I do not think it will happen. So for me the shared process with Inter will continue, we will see if in San Siro or elsewhere.

“In conclusion, the club will continue to be managed very well, if possible with more competence than before. The hope is to be able to get closer to a reality like that of Liverpool today in a decade.”

Bummm and keep posting nice things about redshit
You will soon see selling

 

[Hitchens]

 

[Samaldinho]

Is it just me or would it be interesting to see Marco Nasti get some playtime next season?

I have said this a million times, but the marketing potential from this kid actually becoming our star striker is... it just... the memes write themselves.

 

[brk]

Longo trying to minimiz shit deal.
We will all cry if this sell goes.
Just read touluse mercato

But redshit taking loan from owners to buy and to repay in 5 years is ok.
Like Yi yonlong hahah

Toulouse mercato? Who cares, they just won Ligue 2. Isn't that the whole point of a mercato? To win?

 

[Qaas]

Papaberlu and Hugh Janus patosheva's LW and RW.

Make me the striker

 

[patosheva]

Singer cunt
And fans will suffer again.

 

[Samaldinho]

Toulouse mercato? Who cares, they just won Ligue 2. Isn't that the whole point of a mercato? To win?

No, it is to make statements over the summer to talk shit to your friends, but then be embarrassed when the big signing flops. Believe me, I know, I have friends who are Chelsea and Man Utd fans.

 

[patosheva]

Ooo just wait you will all start crying when we sell leao and get some unknown Promise

 

[patosheva]

Da plan to.play for 4th place have wages under minimum and start erning money for redshit

 

[Curupira]

Ooo just wait you will all start crying when we sell leao and get some unknown Promise

Cannot be worst than the Menez season. But even that season gave us this:

It will be okay

 

[Curupira]

Da plan to.play for 4th place have wages under minimum and start erning money for redshit

So basically same as we are right now. The same path that lead us to fighting for a Scudetto while remaining financially healthy.

Sounds like a big yes to me

 

[Hitchens]

Bummm and keep posting nice things about redshit
You will soon see selling

Qualify your arguments.

1. Redbird acquires Milan for 1.3 bn, possibly 1.8 bn. Why? To be able to sell it for even more.
2. To sell it for even more we need to grow to a much bigger club in international football than we are currently. Why would a low ambition plan make that happen?
3. Elliott is deciding to stay on as minority so as to be able to cash in on the future growth. If they believe there will be future growth(success), why shouldn't we?
4. Why does the CEOs statements about how Toulouse translate to having Udinese mercatos?

 

[vB9]

greedy cunt, gordon

 

[Samaldinho]

It's not just about Neymar transfer fucking up the market. It's that revenues of football clubs now are much higher than they were back in the day. Most of the big clubs have always been run at a loss or close to break even and maybe sometimes a small profit. So if the revenues are much higher the transfer fees and wages are also going to be much higher.

Even before Neymar, Real paid around 115 mil for Bale and ManUtd paid around 120 mil for Pogba. The transfer fees have generally been on an ever increasing trend since at least the time Berlusconi took over Milan in 80s.

The record fee will increase each time, the issue is that a jump from like 100 to 120 is different to one that doubles the record.

Neymar's fee completely distorted the market from top to bottom. Like meh good players were being sold for 120. Just look at Barca's post Neymar market, none of those players were worth those sums.

 

[Curupira]

Ooo just wait you will all start crying when we sell leao and get some unknown Promise

I also trust VultureSheva to find more unknown promise for us from Ligue 2.

His scouting record is

 

[Samaldinho]

Cannot be worst than the Menez season. But even that season gave us this:

It will be okay

That is one of the most audacious goals I've ever seen. It is the kind of shit I've rarely seen in pick up games, let alone in a professional match.

One of my favorites.

 

[patosheva]

Just keep troling
That showes who are real Milan fans and others should stay in fucking bantet era

 

[Curupira]

That is one of the most audacious goals I've ever seen. It is the kind of shit I've rarely seen in pick up games, let alone in a professional match.

One of my favorites.

 

[General]

so more mercatos without investment.

Mercatos

scudettos