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And? What if he called him donkey

Culturally, I don't particularly find that term insulting particularly. However, in some cultures this has been used to degrade a person's status and that's why it is a sensitive term. So I was just answering your question not looking to change your mind on this matter.
 

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De Laurentiis really is the Cavani of the transfer market

Ndombele, Raspadori and Simeone in one day is impressive as hell.

Keylor Navas will probably follow as well.


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Replace Birsa with someone more reliable at the back like Ash, who rejects everything anyway.

Sam should be CM - holding midfielder - he can hold on to shit for ages :proud:

Put Pingu at RW since he has actual wings
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Deloittes reporting on us was inaccurate. If you want to compare apples to apples maybe do a little research. They listed us at 216m, which the club disputed themselves, showing that they made, without CL tv revenue and our new sponsorships from last year, at least 260m.

The club delayed sponsorship revenue to different periods in a staggered method to increase it's year-on-year revenue increase. Like how our new Puma deal is delayed until 2023, instead of being in effect... now.

So, I was comparing apples to apples.

And you also clearly didn't read what I wrote lol.
I did. The numbers you used were reported numbers for other clubs and you didn’t compare them to Milan’s reported numbers but to projections. Deloitte adjusted it upwards after our complaints and moved us to 19th place but this is the current list

1. Manchester City – €644.9m
2. Real Madrid – €640.7m
3. Bayern Munich – €611.4m
4. Barcelona – €582.1m
5. Manchester United – €558m
6. Paris Saint-Germain – €556.2m
7. Liverpool – €550.4m
8. Chelsea – €493.1m
9. Juventus – €433.5m
10. Tottenham – €406.2m
11. Arsenal – €366.5m
12. Borussia Dortmund – €337.6m
13. Atlético Madrid – €332.8m
14. Inter – €330.9m
15. Leicester – €255m
16. West Ham – €221.5m
17. Wolverhampton Wanderers – €219.2m
18. Everton – €218.1m
19. Milan – €216.3m
20. Zenit St. Petersburg – €212m
21. Aston Villa – €207.3m
22. Seville – €199.5m
23. Leeds – €192.7m
24. Roma – €190.4m
25. Atalanta – €187.6m
26. Southampton – €177.5m
27. Borussia Monchengladbach – €177.5m
28. Napoli – €174.5m
29. Newcastle – €170.1m
30. Lazio – €163.5m

Compare reported numbers to reported numbers from the same report. Also fine if you want to discredit the Deloitte report but if you are going to discredit the report then don’t base an “unpacking” write up all on numbers from the same report for every other team. Just don’t compare last reported numbers to optimistic future projections. It creates a distorted picture.
 

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Replace Birsa with someone more reliable at the back like Ash, who rejects everything anyway.

Sam should be CM - holding midfielder - he can hold on to shit for ages :proud:

Put Pingu at RW since he has actual wings
I mean... my wings don't do much. I'd be a bit like Cerci in all honesty. AM is better since I am small and can waddle through the defence like Messi (except cooler and better and not on growth hormones).
 

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I appreciate some of your very detailed posts but I would like to ask. What is Milan’s actual last reported revenue? You are comparing projected revenue to the last reported revenue.

Let’s compare apples to apples. If Chelsea’s last reported revenue is 493 million, Liverpool 550 million, Man United 558 million and even Spurs at 406 million. What was Milan’s? Wasn’t it in the lower to mid 200’s?

I ask because throwing out numbers that are not realized like 360 million or 460 million might make the gap with EPL look smaller in theory, but the actual reported revenue is what matters.

By reported numbers we are only like 20 million or so ahead of mediocre EPL teams like West Ham, Everton and the likes
I can't say I am close to the numbers.

But this reflects our financial realities and strategy in the mercato.
 

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I mean... my wings don't do much. I'd be a bit like Cerci in all honesty. AM is better since I am small and can waddle through the defence like Messi (except cooler and better and not on growth hormones).
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been away from the internet for the past few days. did anything interesting happen lately?
 

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I did. The numbers you used were reported numbers for other clubs and you didn’t compare them to Milan’s reported numbers but to projections. Deloitte adjusted it upwards after our complaints and moved us to 19th place but this is the current list

1. Manchester City – €644.9m
2. Real Madrid – €640.7m
3. Bayern Munich – €611.4m
4. Barcelona – €582.1m
5. Manchester United – €558m
6. Paris Saint-Germain – €556.2m
7. Liverpool – €550.4m
8. Chelsea – €493.1m
9. Juventus – €433.5m
10. Tottenham – €406.2m
11. Arsenal – €366.5m
12. Borussia Dortmund – €337.6m
13. Atlético Madrid – €332.8m
14. Inter – €330.9m
15. Leicester – €255m
16. West Ham – €221.5m
17. Wolverhampton Wanderers – €219.2m
18. Everton – €218.1m
19. Milan – €216.3m
20. Zenit St. Petersburg – €212m
21. Aston Villa – €207.3m
22. Seville – €199.5m
23. Leeds – €192.7m
24. Roma – €190.4m
25. Atalanta – €187.6m
26. Southampton – €177.5m
27. Borussia Monchengladbach – €177.5m
28. Napoli – €174.5m
29. Newcastle – €170.1m
30. Lazio – €163.5m

Compare reported numbers to reported numbers from the same report. Also fine if you want to discredit the Deloitte report but if you are going to discredit the report then don’t base an “unpacking” write up all on numbers from the same report for every other team. Just don’t compare last reported numbers to optimistic future projections. It creates a distorted picture.
The fact that you clearly don't read what I write means that I'm not going to go to the trouble of proving you wrong, but to summarize:

(1) The 216m that you just copy-and-pasted (which you claim is your "research") is the number that Milan objected to. Let me be clear: AC Milan DISAGREED with 216 as an accurate number, they said that 260 was a more accurate figure--and AC Milan have been STAGGERING their sponsorship increases, making the 260 lower than it should be, as will 2022's 300 and 2023's (projected) 360.

(2) Other clubs did not object to these numbers, so, I used the Deloitte numbers as ballpark figures. I did not use Milan's 2021 numbers as listed by Deloitte, because Milan disputed them. If Manchester United or Liverpool disputed the numbers, I would not use them either, but they did NOT dispute them... Therefore, hopefully you can see the difference, because avoiding an inaccuracy in one area does not make the rest of the numbers inaccurate, because the clubs themselves DID NOT dispute them. Milan has done disputed previous years, but they made a point to dispute 2021's--which is why I avoided using those figures.

(3) I do not think you actually understand what I did, because the PROJECTIONS are a reflection of SPONSORSHIPS that we have ALREADY SIGNED, what Gazidis and the accountants are doing is STAGGERING when these new sponsorships come in effect to show GROWTH--the ACTUAL PROJECTIONS that I used were actually in increased MATCHDAY income and potential INCREASED BROADCAST revenue should Milan continue to participate in the CL. Which is crucial for growth.

I can only conclude that you do not understand or actually grasp what I wrote, if you read it at all, especially since in this post that you replied to me, with a COPY-AND-PASTE of a list--especially as in my original post I wrote of Milan's OFFICIAL dispute with the reported numbers.

But why am I surprised? You think Renato didn't sign with us because we didn't pay 3m extra to Lille, and not that PSG offered him double the salary we did. Go figure.
 
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