The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

[nefremo]

Option isn't agreeing to a price, that would be obligation.

We did the same shit with Tonali, there's nothing "shit" about that. It's up to the selling club what they want to do.

Not sure what you mean. Option to buy at a set price is pretty self explanatory....you have "an option to buy" the player "at a pre-agreed price". It IS something they agreed on. So much so, that they "locked in" the price of the player SHOULD they decide to buy him.

It is "shit", from the seller's perspective. But of course, this is business and they have the "option" to buy or not. On the other hand, we don't have the right to refuse their bid (if it's the price they agreed to)....BUT, we sure as fuk have the right not to lower the price. So that's why, I was saying fuk em. Don't give them the player on another loan. I'm sure we can find another place to send him to easily (if it's a loan).

 

[Curupira]

turns out Allegri is anti-Italian discrimination too

 

[milanator]

When Juve got their initial penalty we were in 2nd place before dropping down to 4th place, so you can talk about 5th until you are blue-in-the-face, there's a tiny, little problem even if we go with 5th (and a bad bench)...

We got 8th place with this amazing bench. We played Tiji and Fofana against a Serie B side. Where is this bench?

Our bench was complete ass. Chuk? Musah? Terra? Bondo? Felix? Where is this "deep bench" that you speak of? Where?

Our starting XI was pushed to the limits because our coaches didn't want to rely on anyone else. We would have been better off with Salemaekers over Okafor, Chuk, and Sottil. We would have been better off with Bennacer over Bondo. With Adli over Musah. Kalulu over Emerson Royal. Calabria over Terra. These are the new bench players that were supposed to be replacing the bad bench.

Messias has more goals than Chukwueze--and he cost a fraction of what Chuk cost.

Bondo cost us 10m to do what? Be injured and underwhelming?

Bondo can get list status, not the one to judge based on a half season. Most (usually Italian) players who would be alternatives are definitely more expensive.

Felix was the biggest error imo, actively made us worse on a team level.

 

[Curupira]

Not sure what you mean. Option to buy at a set price is pretty self explanatory....you have "an option to buy" the player "at a pre-agreed price". It IS something they agreed on. So much so, that they "locked in" the price of the player SHOULD they decide to buy him.

It is "shit", from the seller's perspective. But of course, this is business and they have the "option" to buy or not. On the other hand, we don't have the right to refuse their bid (if it's the price they agreed to)....BUT, we sure as fuk have the right not to lower the price. So that's why, I was saying fuk em. Don't give them the player on another loan. I'm sure we can find another place to send him to easily (if it's a loan).

It is self-explanatory, they said "No" to that option at the pre-agreed price.

But are still willing to negotiate, just at a lower price. It's up to the seller if they are desperate enough to take it. This is what happens when you renew fodder on high salary in the name of ambition, other teams will hammer you on this mistake as much as possible so they can get utility for as little as possible.

I am not sure how many other teams have appetite to even pay the full salary for Bennacer, if anything we'd probably have to pitch in on the salary.

 

[grandeacm2]

And look how far they fell the following season

From 2nd place to 3rd place
Not bad, considering all the senatori and Ibra/Silva left

 

[MilanFan89]

Need to sell Theo. He dont want to sign a new contract it seems. Otherwise we will lose him on free

 

[vB9]

Champions League final: Belgian TikTokers 'hid in toilet' at Munich's Allianz Arena for 27 hours to watch PSG's win over Inter Milan for free

A pair of Belgian TikTokers claim they hid in a toilet at Munich's Allianz Arena for 27 hours before watching last weekend's Champions League final.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Samaldinho]

My point is not every transfer can be Reijnders/Pulisic. It took them like eight shots in one mercato two hit on two transfers like that. If you want to keep the cycle going you need to sell some from the top and continue taking shots

I think it was probably a mistake not selling Mike/Theo/Leao when the big offers were coming in, they could have added a lot of talent. Straddling this middle area just leads to a slow decay where enough talent isn't added routinely because these sorts of transfers are difficult

The current situation is for lots of reasons and lack of talent isn't nearly at the top of the list

They're bad at taking shots, that's the problem. Teams that rely on this strategy make sure they're good at taking those shots. They aren't.

They're also bad at... almost everything else. They're bad at PR. They're bad at selecting coaches. They're bad with the Futuro, where they failed.

They're good at marketing (different than PR) and they're good (so far) with the stadium. They've been poor with nearly everything else.

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

If Furlani is speaking he is lying.

But he said we don't need to, not that we wouldn't... Political bs answers.

"There offer was too good" and "the will of the player" blah blah blah...

 

[grandeacm2]

Taken to cleaners by city.

Tiji wanted out. Don't blame him...our milan going nowhere

City with pep sounds fun.

If Tiji wanted out then why did he sign the contract extension for us?
I don’t think he wanted out. He wanted to stay but he was forced out.

Likeable guy, but not a good enough midfielder imo.
I think he may fit in Pep’s tacticool system or will be used as rotation.
I will not be surprised if Pep just wants him to poach some goals here and there.

 

[Ryo]

When Juve got their initial penalty we were in 2nd place before dropping down to 4th place, so you can talk about 5th until you are blue-in-the-face, there's a tiny, little problem even if we go with 5th (and a bad bench)...

We got 8th place with this amazing bench. We played Tiji and Fofana against a Serie B side. Where is this bench?

Our bench was complete ass. Chuk? Musah? Terra? Bondo? Felix? Where is this "deep bench" that you speak of? Where?

Our starting XI was pushed to the limits because our coaches didn't want to rely on anyone else. We would have been better off with Salemaekers over Okafor, Chuk, and Sottil. We would have been better off with Bennacer over Bondo. With Adli over Musah. Kalulu over Emerson Royal. Calabria over Terra. These are the new bench players that were supposed to be replacing the bad bench.

Messias has more goals than Chukwueze--and he cost a fraction of what Chuk cost.

Bondo cost us 10m to do what? Be injured and underwhelming?

Sam, bro, you need to stop saying it's an amazing bench.
Nobody said that.

I just said it's a much improved bench compared to what we had in 22/23. It's a bench that at least allowed us to rotate our players without thinking every new sub that comes on was 100% going to be a disaster and points dropped (which it was in 22-23).

Do you even remember our 22/23 bench?
Here's a Reminder:

 

[papaberlu]

Poor squad building in terms of doubling up on certain positions while ignoring others(like a true cdm), failing to just buy a decent striker for years, and instability at coaching. Plus a lot of new faces brought in over the last two seasons, there’s very clearly no team chemistry on the field at all.

That’s why I’m on the fence about blowing it up with allegri. I do think we probably need several new players added, but I also think there’s a world where a coach comes in and simplifies a few roles, stops trying to be overly progressive and adopt a more pragmatic/compact approach, maybe add 1-2 players. And the team shoots back into the top 4 next season to be evaluated again in the summer. Doesn’t seem they want to do that though

There tactical issues but those don't make you nosedive from 2nd to 9th. I think fundamentally there is a culture issue. It was always a red flag to me about how this team need a baby sitter in Ibra on the field and now on top of that they've added a collection of mercenaries. The constant coaching mishaps add to it

I feel like it's part of the reason they are going after Italians now. Instead of having players like RLC, Emerson Royal, etc. who are here for the paycheck and to enjoy Milan, they want young Italians with roots who will fight beyond their salary/cost

I want to see a full culture blow up w/e form that takes

 

[Il grande Milan]

so did reijnders go now for 55 or 75? Some reports mention 55M $ but I guess they mean pound?

 

[SpartanMilan]

Whats our STs status?!
Jovic still has one year left on his contract?
Abraham returned?

really hope we end up going for Nikola Krstovic... produced well for a team with very little supporting him, and showed the mentality that would fit a move to a big club imo

Not an amazing player, but I feel like with strikers its best to target guys you think can make the leap. The costs are so insane that going after a guy in his mid 20s and has shown signs of having another level that they might be able to hit in the right situation is the sweet spot in the insane market

 

[Samaldinho]

Bondo can get list status, not the one to judge based on a half season. Most (usually Italian) players who would be alternatives are definitely more expensive.

Felix was the biggest error imo, actively made us worse on a team level.

Musah, as well, didn't count for our Serie A lists because of his age. Yes, he can get that status, but the fact that they couldn't even manage the lists leading to them being unable to get Manu Kone because they had to offload Bennacer, is just another example of their incompetence.

It makes our choice to let Pobega go odd, in my opinion, because of how poorly we managed the list.

Our third revolution with Felix, I agree, was a disaster.

 

[Bird]

The words of Reijnders, now a former AC Milan player, soon to become a new player for Pep Guardiola's Manchester City

“ The clubs are still in talks . For me it’s just a matter of waiting ,” Tijjani Reijnders told Dutch newspaper Voetbal International.

The deal between Milan and Manchester City is now concluded , as the club is now preparing to welcome its new midfielder.

So the club coached by Pep Guardiola decided to take action, immediately looking for a profile to replace the departing Kevin De Bruyne.

“ I personally had a fantastic year at Milan. The Premier League is incredible, you dream about it as a boy ,” the Dutch player continued in his interview.

Reijnders' first words on Manchester City​

“ My last year at Milan was fantastic with goals and assists, even though we had some difficulties and things didn’t go the way we wanted, ” said the midfielder. He then described himself: “ I’m a modern player who can play multiple roles from one side of the area to the other .”

On City he then said: “ De Bruyne is great, he was the first player I always looked at at City. Have I spoken to Guardiola? No, I only spoke to Aké about a possible transfer. Let's see how it goes. I dream of the Premier League as a boy. Sometimes when I think about it I can't believe how far I've come in the space of four years from AZ .”

 

[Curupira]

Where are we going next?

Saw rumors earlier for Rabiot and Guendozi. Not sure if its just media throwing names but profile wise they make much more sense

 

[Ryo]

turns out Allegri is anti-Italian discrimination too

As an Italian?
The nerve of this guy!

 

[milanator]

so did reijnders go now for 55 or 75? Some reports mention 55M $ but I guess they mean pound?

I guess the one report that said 65m € in fixed sum plus easy bonus +5m difficult bonus makes most sense.

 

[papaberlu]

They're bad at taking shots, that's the problem. Teams that rely on this strategy make sure they're good at taking those shots. They aren't.

They're also bad at... almost everything else. They're bad at PR. They're bad at selecting coaches. They're bad with the Futuro, where they failed.

They're good at marketing (different than PR) and they're good (so far) with the stadium. They've been poor with nearly everything else.

I'd like to see Pavlovic, Fofana, and Gimenez in a better environment I don't want to write them off

but obv its not great so far

 

[grandeacm2]

I fear this will bite us in the ass and he will show his true value when some other good club like Napoli or something gets him.
People in this forum constantly contradict themselves.
They criticize Redbird for stat analysis and then they themselves use stat analysis to shit on Ricci.

I just judge a player by how hot he looks, the Berlsuconi way.
If a player is hot there is a good chance they will be a good player.

But hey judge him based off of stats playing for mighty Torino

 

[papaberlu]

Musah, as well, didn't count for our Serie A lists because of his age. Yes, he can get that status, but the fact that they couldn't even manage the lists leading to them being unable to get Manu Kone because they had to offload Bennacer, is just another example of their incompetence.

It makes our choice to let Pobega go odd, in my opinion, because of how poorly we managed the list.

Our third revolution with Felix, I agree, was a disaster.

Kone really sums it up you know I won't ever get over that

They liked him and chased him for years and just were so ill prepared to close when there was an opportunity and even facilitated a rival stealing him

absolute ******s

 

[grandeacm2]

turns out Allegri is anti-Italian discrimination too

No, he just prefers fodders like Cambiaso, De Sciglio, Matri etc.

 

[The Cat]

Wonder who the ricci alternative is. Surely we have someone lined up

 

[Ryo]

But he said we don't need to, not that we wouldn't... Political bs answers.

"There offer was too good" and "the will of the player" blah blah blah...

Why do I feel like we're the only team who loves to accede to the "will of the player"?

Sheva, Kaka, Kessie, Romagnoli, and now Tiji.

Can we not just put our foot down for once and say "Fuck you, you're staying"?

 

[papaberlu]

I guess the one report that said 65m € in fixed sum plus easy bonus +5m difficult bonus makes most sense.

if our insider randomly came on here one day and said "my source says the sky will be burning tomorrow" I'll stay indoors the next day

 

[Merosso]

He is a true fodder

Then Reindjers heir

 

[finnishhacker]

45 years old ronaldo still on international duty

 

[ymsv]

Not sure what you mean. Option to buy at a set price is pretty self explanatory....you have "an option to buy" the player "at a pre-agreed price". It IS something they agreed on. So much so, that they "locked in" the price of the player SHOULD they decide to buy him.

It is "shit", from the seller's perspective. But of course, this is business and they have the "option" to buy or not. On the other hand, we don't have the right to refuse their bid (if it's the price they agreed to)....BUT, we sure as fuk have the right not to lower the price. So that's why, I was saying fuk em. Don't give them the player on another loan. I'm sure we can find another place to send him to easily (if it's a loan).

Except he is extorting us by saying that he wants to stay there even if they are not agree with the price . He is helping them . Thus meaning since like any club they have a certain amount for that deal , or we take a high fee and he receive lower salary , or high salary with low fee . Basically he is forcing us to reduce the fee , so he can stay there with high salary . He does not want to come back . We can not send him to another team if he does not want to . Only thing is keeping him like Origi . I hope they will find some solution .

 

[The Cat]

Pellegati:

However, I am crazy about the Tare-Allegri duo and I can stomach this choice, which was made before their arrival. I trust Allegri and Tare, we started off well with Modric. Milan must fill some gaps, starting with the leadership, and I think someone like Modric is ideal. Maignan? The alternative is Svilar, who I am told is not very keen on staying in Rome.

Ricci doesn't drive Allegri crazy, watch out for Mitrovic up front, watch out for Leoni, a Parma defender who is liked. And he also wants a couple of midfielders. Watch out for Rabiot. Allegri likes Saelemaekers and he should stay. He's the ideal player for all coaches".

maybe we will get rabiot, Gazetta also says he's part of our plans.
Big NO to Mitrovic