The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

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Creativity and creating things, ie G/A. For all I knock RLC, he did contribute to G/A therefore was creative.

From the rumblings out of Milanello, RLC is seen as the guy to potentially replace the goals we'll lose from Deers. That's a massive risk!

I'd add Adli in the eye for a pass category.

Currently the notion that RLX replaces Deers, and Pobega is a FB, while Adli and Musah are ostracized, word ChuK and Royale is worryingly quiet. And we don't have anyone other Giminez up front really.

Is fucking worrying...

To be clear, RLC has no place being relied upon and we need 2 starting quality RBs, and another starting quality FWD... Before we even think top 4 is an option.
I can't see a way where if we sign Jashari that RLC is starting. Maybe if we think we need to bed Jashari in slowly.
But he'd need to seriously increase his work rate and midfield work. I'm sure Allegri thinks he has a player now.

I just don't see, after a period of evaluating everyone where RLC is pushing Jashari, Modric or Fofana to the bench.
 

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Fofana is going to be the biggest surprise for fans this season.
He was very good at time last season. Imagine in a 3 man midfield, better fitness, from less games and being asked to do the things he does best.

More people don't understand how dysfunctional Reijnders-Fofana pivot is. For me, Fofana's best qualities aren't defensive.
Fofana can contribute defensively but he likes to move the ball forward too, I think he can be the B2B many were hoping RLC would be.

Bondo was supposed to be a DM but he doesn’t cut it. If Tare can land a player whom can play DM effectively, Fofana will have a great season.
RLC is creative? Not for me.
Modric, Jashari, Fofana all have an eye for a pass.
RLC should have been sold at a profit to the premier league a year and half ago. Someone in the EPL showed interest I can’t remember what team.
 

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I can't see a way where if we sign Jashari that RLC is starting. Maybe if we think we need to bed Jashari in slowly.
But he'd need to seriously increase his work rate and midfield work. I'm sure Allegri thinks he has a player now.

I just don't see, after a period of evaluating everyone where RLC is pushing Jashari, Modric or Fofana to the bench.
I don't advocate RLC in any way. He and Ben are clogging up valuable space in the squad and costing a fortune.

I don't know enough about Jashari to be honest.

If we could get say £15 million for RLC and Ben tomorrow, I'd grab it.

That money and saved wages could be used somewhere.

Honestly getting rid of Ben and RLC, then keeping 2 from Musah, Pobega and Adli, wouldn't scare me as much as selling all of Adli, Musah and Pobega, then keeping Ben and RLC.

RLC is a bum who needs to fuck off!
 
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Fofana can contribute defensively but he likes to move the ball forward too, I think he can be the B2B many were hoping RLC would be.

Bondo was supposed to be a DM but he doesn’t cut it. If Tare can land a player whom can play DM effectively, Fofana will have a great season.

RLC should have been sold at a profit to the premier league a year and half ago. Someone in the EPL showed interest I can’t remember what team.
Oh yeah we have a Bondo lol...
 

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I mean sure, but if every other club is doing that then all you're doing is locking yourself out of being able to buy players that any other club is interested in
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That has been my prevailing sentiment since day one of mercato under Elliot. When the "we don't kowtow to agents" narrative gets pushed around, it means nothing and is laughable as a flex.

The only thing it helps is pushing targets out, by numerous examples throughout the past several years. The approaching price should be agent fees included.

How do we have such a sophisticated algorithm and yet are continously bamboozled when reaching the final minute and realising another 4m in agent fees is required is truly beyond me.

Tare should be handed the final value target price, all included. 2-3 days of negotiations and it's not nearing that?
Sayonara.
 

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Luka will be huge help. Unless Milan doctors destroy him like many.

But our team needs 6 more players. Minimum. Maybe 7. 2 fullbacks, cb as Thiaw will be sold, good no.8, one good winger that can score 7/8 goals per serie a season as Jimenez and Saele can't do that, and no.9.

I don't see how Furlani can do all that. And so far, the team we have will fight very, very hard for the top 4.

Also selling Camarda and letting go of Jovic, leaving the squad with only 1 cf is stupid.

Milan needs quality, like Calafiori, Udogie, Scalvini, Chiesa... from Italians.
 

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That has been my prevailing sentiment since day one of mercato under Elliot. When the "we don't kowtow to agents" narrative gets pushed around, it means nothing and is laughable as a flex.

The only thing it helps is pushing targets out, by numerous examples throughout the past several years. The approaching price should be agent fees included.

How do we have such a sophisticated algorithm and yet are continously bamboozled when reaching the final minute and realising another 4m in agent fees is required is truly beyond me.

Tare should be handed the final value target price, all included. 2-3 days of negotiations and it's not nearing that?
Sayonara.
I think it’s also agents then playing clubs off of each other. So, if the agent fee was believed to be $3m but another club is willing to pay $5m then the transfer changes complexion.
 

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Loftus Butt Cheeks is the one player I always forget plays for Milan. My brain refuses to accept it.
He is great at disappearing in games so it is easy to forget he plays for Milan. Until it isn’t.
 

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I think it’s also agents then playing clubs off of each other. So, if the agent fee was believed to be $3m but another club is willing to pay $5m then the transfer changes complexion.
Obviously every transfer has an agent rigamarole potential, especially with Bosman transfers.

But Milan showing up to bid for players under contract, who only look at Milan as a desired destination? Bar Modric, that's been this mercato's vision- Ricci, jahari, the Witcher character. Agents fees did not play a part in the negotiations failure.

And even that, I'm not sure every transfer comes to the wire of an agent bidding war, as in the example you've mentioned. A specified target price shouldn't be terribly hard to estimate.
 

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Luka will be huge help. Unless Milan doctors destroy him like many.

But our team needs 6 more players. Minimum. Maybe 7. 2 fullbacks, cb as Thiaw will be sold, good no.8, one good winger that can score 7/8 goals per serie a season as Jimenez and Saele can't do that, and no.9.

I don't see how Furlani can do all that. And so far, the team we have will fight very, very hard for the top 4.

Also selling Camarda and letting go of Jovic, leaving the squad with only 1 cf is stupid.

Milan needs quality, like Calafiori, Udogie, Scalvini, Chiesa... from Italians.
The Jovic thing is one of the most confusing things we've done. Alongside ostrisizing Adli and possibly Musah. Before they've even kicked a ball in training.

Really weird moves.
 

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Luka will be huge help. Unless Milan doctors destroy him like many.

But our team needs 6 more players. Minimum. Maybe 7. 2 fullbacks, cb as Thiaw will be sold, good no.8, one good winger that can score 7/8 goals per serie a season as Jimenez and Saele can't do that, and no.9.

I don't see how Furlani can do all that. And so far, the team we have will fight very, very hard for the top 4.

Also selling Camarda and letting go of Jovic, leaving the squad with only 1 cf is stupid.

Milan needs quality, like Calafiori, Udogie, Scalvini, Chiesa... from Italians.
I suspect Chiesa is on a bad downward trajectory in terms of his playing ability.
 

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why do you say we only have +75mil so far? Reijnders (65m euro) + Theo (25m) + Kalulu (14m) + Pellegrino (4m) that's already 108m and that's excluding bonuses which could be another 15m euro, and excluding all the wages saved, and the budget to be invested from Milan itself for each summer (whether it's 30-60m).

I think Jiminez is a very good full-back and has showed great potential last year. I think it would be wise to have him be a starter for one side and allow him to grow and improve further. We need to bring a sub for him (budget should be 10m or less, maybe that's what Archie was for?), and on the other side we have Saelemakers who could be the sub, while we could sign a starter for 15-25m. In reality we really only need 30-35m to sign two full backs (one starter + one sub).
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We haven't received any bonus for Reijnders yet, and his base fee was 55mil euro. Also we spent 23mil already on Ricci.

Regarding wages, yes, we saved on the players that were here on loan, and returned to their club, like Tammy, or Walker. But this saving is mitigated with all the players that we loaned out, and returned. Players like Bennacer, Adli, Pobega, etc were not on our payroll last season, as their new club covered their salaries.

Regarding Jimenez, I also rate him highly. I would be okay with a right side of Salad and Jimenez. They are both offensive fullbacks, their playstyle is quite similar. We can rotate them without really impacting our tactics. Pulisic as a RW covers a lot of ground, and he is a player that tracks back, and gives support to the RB.

For LB, I would definitely want a defensive guy. Someone that covers for Leao. A completely different profile to Theo. I didn't like this Archie guy, he seemed like Theo from Temu. My top LB target would be Udogie, or Calafiori. Both are top players, and profiles that could complement Leao better. For backup, I would keep Bartesaghi, who is supposed to be quite talented. Alternatively if Allegri doesn't rate him, I would go for a cheap, reliable, nothing extra-ordinary option, with Serie A experience, a profile like Parisi.
 

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AC Milan is pleased to announce the acquisition of Daniele Petrone, who will be part of Progetto Milan Futuro.

The striker, born in 2009, played for Benevento and has chosen to join the Rossoneri.
I wonder if anyone cares about this futuro circus.
 

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I think it’s also agents then playing clubs off of each other. So, if the agent fee was believed to be $3m but another club is willing to pay $5m then the transfer changes complexion.
The problem is that the club owners have to collude together to go against agent fees like the NFL owners have just been caught doing over guarenteed contracts.

I also think a lot of the "agent fees" business is about money going to the player and/or his family.
 

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Sell chuck

Get boniface

Get a cb like Leoni or commuzo

Lb get someone don’t care. Someone good defensively and fast.

And a big one. We need a cam mid.
 

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The Jovic thing is one of the most confusing things we've done. Alongside ostrisizing Adli and possibly Musah. Before they've even kicked a ball in training.

Really weird moves.
Not so . From here .

https://sempremilan.com/moretto-jovic-milan-contract-explained-staying

“.................. So, in fact, this Jovic contract signed in August 2023 is not a 1+3, but a 1+1+1+1. So every year, at the end of each season, the parties can decide by mutual agreement whether to trigger the automatic renewal or not. .................. "

He is not playing much here . If he can not play there is no reason for him to stay . There was rumor that he is going to Mexico .
 

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