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How is Leao a bad possession player, one of the few in the squad who can play a final pass or cross consistently.

He may loose possession but that's not because he is doing back passes.
I actually laughed out loud at this. Please tell me you weren't serious?
 
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Or why only failing/messy institutions are interested in him in the first place

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Ah yes the only two institutions that he happened to ever play for in his career. Those ones.
 
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According to @lequipe, Ruben Amorim had a phone call with Ismaëlo Ganiou to try to get him to sign with Milan. The French defender extended his contract with RC Lens until 2030 this afternoon.


guy extended his contract after a phone call with amorim?

my god… our coach has zero pull🥀
 
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He is right on every point.

Just a shame he threw the chance to fix it because of Pirlo.
He has the clout to wage war in the media to implement some of these things so it's hard to understand why he would walk so quickly.

It's a PR stunt by both Maldini and Malago to save face. Nothing more.
Malago actually has to say something as he is still in a position.

Very unfortunate but the episode possibly highlights Italy's progress issue perfectly.
 
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Ah yes the only two institutions that he happened to ever play for in his career. Those ones.
Idea so great only institutions who recognizes are failing/untrustworthy ones that he used to play for

:thumbsup: great point
 
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I have a strange feeling that Soule to Milan will happen by next week or so ...
Or Diaz or the Chilean kid?

While we have bodies in the space behind the striker, I don't see many certainties...

It's so infuriating that we really can't hope for a good season, or plan too much without this Wingback/Wide-midfielder situation being sorted?

Can we not just swap RLC and Tomori for someone, then Bondo and Fofana for someone, then ChuK and Estupinian for someone... 6 out, 3 in, go?
 
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How is Leao a bad possession player, one of the few in the squad who can play a final pass or cross consistently.

He may loose possession but that's not because he is doing back passes.
He hangs on to the ball and slows the game to a halt to then start his move. It allows the defence to reset and prepare for him.
If he wins then good but often when he doesn't there isn't anything left.

He also doesn't like to move off the ball opening things up for others.

He is a soloist in his play even though when he wins his duel he does look to setup others.
 
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Very respectable interview.
More than respectable. I understand his decision completely now. I admit I was disappointed at first when he decided to leave but this explanation clears things up a great deal for me and now I understand and even agree a bit with what he did.
 
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Bc his own finishing is shit and teams learned to start doubling up on him
His finishing was always rubbish but in fairness to him he also always looked for others more than going for goal.
Even when he could ghost by most and he flirted with improvement he still looked for others.

But yes, there have been times where he also takes the easy way out .... thinking more about the loopy crosses when he has run out of real estate.
 
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Leave it to the foreign clubs to buy and develop the young Italian players. :lol: I think Dortmund are buying another, youth player from Genoa. Roberto Scaglione.




Because they let the coach play youngsters
Everyone here and the journalists need to stfu when camarda not scoring, cisse pick wrong pass or comotto makes mistake
This season is doomed from the start anyway, so amorim should give the kids as much playing time as possible
 
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Perhaps because he had to defend his position against the incessant media hounding claiming he was never really close to Pep in the first place?

According to many on here, the Pep story was all a sham to make everyone feel like a genuine attempt was made before moving onto the cheap, unambitious and unpopular Pirlo?

This goes both ways.
Does it go all the way where Maldini would have never chose Pirlo for the Milan job?
 
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He is right on every point.

Just a shame he threw away the chance to fix it because of Pirlo.
Meh he does it so often and then claims his imaginary 45 page would have made everybody wakanada.

He got Italian nt and Milan top job and threw it away because he is lunatic at this point of time
 
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To this day I'll never understand the the hot streak Pioli was on for a few years. Never adds up to the rest of his coaching career. :lol:
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So the story is confirmed now because... Maldini says it happened?

"He was already drawing up line-ups, he was asking for less money than Gattuso and he told us he was ready – until he decided he wasn't."

Boh. It's Maldini, so I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, and I'm not saying he's making the story up. But his own account isn't exactly independent confirmation of his own account either.

And that's not really what bothers me anyway. It's this pattern with Maldini that I struggle with. Malagò may be the biggest dinosaur in Italian football (he probably is so fuck him), but at least he went in front of the cameras, described the split as consensual and openly took responsibility for the decision that ultimately led to it. End of story.

Maldini, meanwhile, once again walks away when things don't go his way and then starts airing the dirty laundry afterwards. Who wanted whom, who changed what, what had supposedly been agreed and whose fault it ultimately was. Maybe he's completely right about all of it. But at some point you also start wondering why working relationships involving him seem to end with bridges burned so often.

That's what I meant with my original post. It's not about defending Malagò or claiming the Guardiola story was a sham. I just find this whole former-SD ritual of explaining afterwards how everything would have worked out if only everyone else had stuck to the plan a bit tiring and unworthy of a persona like Maldini.

i too won't doubt Maldini's truthfulness, however he's claiming that Malago didn't keep his word and that's why he quit?

way way waaaaaayament wayament. hooooold up. rewind a little bit. and let's add a little bit of empathy.



so Malago/FIGC have a meeting with Maldini and they discuss the terms. Maldini says what he wants (Leonardo + control of selecting the coach while telling him his primary plan was to bring in Guardiola + Ancelotti) and Malago loves his plan and accepts.

then 1 week later, both Guardiola + Ancelotti reject, and he changes plan and now wants Pirlo (and 'WoRlD cUp WiNnErS' de rossi + grosso lol)?

it's like saying you're going to sign Mbappe or Haaland as your #9 for next season, when the whole world knew they would not accept your destination, and after their predicted rejection , you're saying you'll settle for... what.. CUTRONE? or Camarda? does he think this is Monza?

That is NOT the same thing at all. Maldini himself was the one who FIRST changed the promises (or plans) he made to Malago. That's a HUGE change in direction. One, that Malago, has every right to go against, because he is putting his name and career on the line too. It's like Maldini set him up and lied to him, selling him false dreams of Haaland or Mbappe, just to get the role, and only then to bring his friends. Absolute nepotism, absolute incompetence and most importantly, absolute hypocrisy.

You can change your plans, but Malago can't change his? despite it's him who got elected?

really Paolo?
 
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He hangs on to the ball and slows the game to a halt to then start his move. It allows the defence to reset and prepare for him.
If he wins then good but often when he doesn't there isn't anything left.

He also doesn't like to move off the ball opening things up for others.

He is a soloist in his play even though when he wins his duel he does look to setup others.

Nothing of that makes him a bad passer though. Leao has good passing technique, and strong vision and creativity.

Of course he is a focal point/soloist, no denying that, but that has both up and downsides. He is not shy to take responsibility with the ball which is something you can´t say about too many of our players.
 

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Meh he does it so often and then claims his imaginary 45 page would have made everybody wakanada.

He got Italian nt and Milan top job and threw it away because he is lunatic at this point of time
Lets not forget the written step by step plan he prepared to make Milan dominate the universe that evil RB hid before firing him.
 
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It seems from his comments it isn't about Pirlo, but because what was agreed to explicitly was torn up.

I hate Pirlo, I really do, but I think Maldini's structural plans and vision were spot-on. Italy needs that sort of revolution.

If Italy get a group of good players randomly--or if Dortmund does all the developing for them lol--it might paper over the cracks, but there are large structural problems to Italy, which we all know.

Hopefully the changes happen, so we may benefit lol.
I agree. But it seems like he quit because he didn't get complete control over decision making. And let's be clear... there is independence with choices like Ancelotti and Pep, where no one will undermine you, and then there is independence with choices like Pirlo, where everyone has a right to second guess you.

It just seems like he quit because he didn't get his way, no matter if his way was leading up to a bad choice.
 
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Schira: Galatasaray plot September move to lower Milan's demand for Leao​


Can forget about using his fees to fund the market
 
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Nothing of that makes him a bad passer though. Leao has good passing technique, and strong vision and creativity.

Of course he is a focal point/soloist, no denying that, but that has both up and downsides. He is not shy to take responsibility with the ball which is something you can´t say about too many of our players.
True but when you characterise a possession based player, Leao is like the opposite of that style.

You usually expect quick decisions, movement, very good first touch and constant engagement.
 

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Can forget about using his fees to fund the market
And no one wants to buy all the other fodders. Great squad building. I hope y'all Gerry lickers are happy
 
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Leave it to the foreign clubs to buy and develop the young Italian players. :lol: I think Dortmund are buying another, youth player from Genoa. Roberto Scaglione.




Cant blame those italian youngsters, they get more chances abroad than in their own country. Its probably a good thing for the Italian national team.
 
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