The Rumour Commode L - Take the L

[Soldier_of_god]

The Gila signing seems great. Hopefully he performs really well and we learn that signing proven players in Serie A is the way to go moving forward. Rather than these unknown guys from other leagues who inevitably flop. Failed experiment.

I think we will see a Milan with Rabiot and gila playing vs a Milan without them 2 should they get injured

If those 2 are fit and firing then Milan makes top 4

If they get injured or miss games for whatever reason that’s when we will see a big dip in form.

 

[punisher]

Youssouf Fofana is pushing to join Juventus.

Milan are asking for €17–18m, with the possibility of including a player in the deal. At the moment, the only Juventus player the Rossoneri would consider is Nico González.

@sportmediaset

As a backup for RAM and LAM position he is decent. AS A BACKUP. Like Cisse. We need a starter though alongside Pulisic, supposing both Nkunku and Leao are sold. I just remembered we still have RLC. My god.

 

[Beppe]

Cambiaso!

 

[punisher]

As bad as fufuna is, I don’t like selling to direct rivals unless we get a better player in exchange. Nico is dog shit too.

Khepran for Fofana please.

I thought Nico had a decent WC. Whenever he played I mean.

 

[Buske]

Exactly what my MU friend told me.
Hard headed, stubborn, always gets what he wants and most importantly: Fodder Killer

Just what we need here, I like him

 

[pippofan]

6th place is so optimistic lol

With this coach we'll be closer to relegation than top 10



Karma is beautiful

In that case Cardinale should fire himself since he assumed all the responsibilty for the running of the club.

 

[Alo88]

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but if we're really selling Leao and Nkunku, and the only offers we're getting for Giménez are loans with options or any other formula that doesn't give us significant cash immediately, then honestly I'd just keep him. What's the point of loaning him out if it doesn't actually help us finance the players we need now?

Go into the season with Sergio Ramos as the clear starter and Giménez and Camarda fighting for the spot behind him. I genuinely think that's a perfectly fine striker department. Ramos gets the vast majority of the important minutes and the other two have every incentive in the world to prove themselves whenever they get their chances.

For Giménez, it's basically one last opportunity to show that somewhere inside him there's still that Feyenoord striker who was banging in goals for fun. And for Camarda, it's the perfect challenge too: if he's really as good as we all believe he can be, then he should be capable of outperforming the Giménez we've watched for the last year and a half. Don't gift either of them the number two spot – make them fucking fight for it.

 

[sheva]

Amorim redemption arc incoming

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but if we're really selling Leao and Nkunku, and the only offers we're getting for Giménez are loans with options or any other formula that doesn't give us significant cash immediately, then honestly I'd just keep him. What's the point of loaning him out if it doesn't actually help us finance the players we need now?

Go into the season with Sergio Ramos as the clear starter and Giménez and Camarda fighting for the spot behind him. I genuinely think that's a perfectly fine striker department. Ramos gets the vast majority of the important minutes and the other two have every incentive in the world to prove themselves whenever they get their chances.

For Giménez, it's basically one last opportunity to show that somewhere inside him there's still that Feyenoord striker who was banging in goals for fun. And for Camarda, it's the perfect challenge too: if he's really as good as we all believe he can be, then he should be capable of outperforming the Giménez we've watched for the last year and a half. Don't gift either of them the number two spot – make them fucking fight for it.

Wouldn’t pay more than 10 mil for cuckunku

But yea. Just throw cisse into the deep end and see what happens.

We are still after osario or nwaneri again

Cocksucker bitch motherfucker owner said we will sign 2 players who are quality irrespective of whether we make sales or not.

 

[sheva]

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but if we're really selling Leao and Nkunku, and the only offers we're getting for Giménez are loans with options or any other formula that doesn't give us significant cash immediately, then honestly I'd just keep him. What's the point of loaning him out if it doesn't actually help us finance the players we need now?

Go into the season with Sergio Ramos as the clear starter and Giménez and Camarda fighting for the spot behind him. I genuinely think that's a perfectly fine striker department. Ramos gets the vast majority of the important minutes and the other two have every incentive in the world to prove themselves whenever they get their chances.

For Giménez, it's basically one last opportunity to show that somewhere inside him there's still that Feyenoord striker who was banging in goals for fun. And for Camarda, it's the perfect challenge too: if he's really as good as we all believe he can be, then he should be capable of outperforming the Giménez we've watched for the last year and a half. Don't gift either of them the number two spot – make them fucking fight for it.

Question is, what is more probable- Gimi suddenly having motivation to be our starting CF, or having another mediocre season which would depreciate his value even further.

To me he seems like a player with minnow mentality, does not have that dawg in him unlike Jashari, Pavlo or Modric. Which is a shame, since I had high hopes for him after his impressive 6 months debut after January.

Seems to me like he's a big fish in a small pond, too soft for Serie A and iirc Allegri had personal issues with him, not only sporting ones. A move to a smaller league could make him explode again, and we would sell him to either Porto or swindle EPL.
Another year in Serie A? Gamble.

Loaning players isn't only a question of immediate benefit, it's sometimes a long term planning.

 

[pippofan]

One of the many things that I don't understand about this regime is why they leak the names of the players that are on the chopping block and why exclude them from team activities and let them train on their own.

It's not a good selling strategy if you demean the product that you want to sell which would prompt the potential buyer to offer the lowest price possible. As a successfull businessman Cardinale should understand that, unless owning Milan makes you lose your marbles.

 

[pippofan]

Probable starting line-up for the friendly today according to MilanNews:

Torriani, Terracciano, De Winter, Pavlovic, Salaemakers, Modric, Jashari, Bartesaghi, Loftus Cheek, Cisse`, Ramos.

These predictions have been mostly wrong so far but this time Amorim wants to use a line-up that closely resembles the one vs Torino.

Missing projected starters like Maignan, Gila, Rabiot, and Pulisic won't give us a clear picture of how we stand and again today don't expect much on the offensive side.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

One of the many things that I don't understand about this regime is why they leak the names of the players that are on the chopping block and why exclude them from team activities and let them train on their own.

It's not a good selling strategy if you demean the product that you want to sell which would prompt the potential buyer to offer the lowest price possible. As a successfull businessman Cardinale should understand that, unless owning Milan makes you lose your marbles.

Well you are put on the market already so it doesn’t really matter but yea any negative PR about players on the chopping block should be avoided, particularly anything related to work ethic as that could deter sales.

 

[forward]

Youssouf Fofana is pushing to join Juventus.

Milan are asking for €17–18m, with the possibility of including a player in the deal. At the moment, the only Juventus player the Rossoneri would consider is Nico González.

@sportmediaset

Selling a fodder while weakening our direct rival.

Amorim <3

 

[forward]

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Just what we need here, I like him

Amorim ball will look like prime tiki taka after 1 season of #Allergy.

 

[Dena]

 

[Soldier_of_god]

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Just what we need here, I like him

Atleast we are getting rid of fodders tbh

 

[KujaIX]

Exactly what my MU friend told me.
Hard headed, stubborn, always gets what he wants and most importantly: Fodder Killer

That is one of the most mind-numbingly fanboy rose-tinted glasses view of Amorim at United I have seen.

I am all for giving Amorim a go here, he was good at Sporting.

He was horrendous at United. His football was terrible, they were not dangerous (well aside from dangerous in a suicidal way), he had the worst PPG for a United manager, he lost to 4th division Grimsby in the cup, repeatedly got blown out and lost in big scorelines, and not only against the big teams. No real fan cried when he was sacked, he pretty much committed suicide in that lunatic press-conference.

Now, he did get rid of some fodder and his signings were generally alright, and - somehow as the football did not suggest it at all - he was actually not far off CL when he got sacked.

So, I will give him a chance. He has shown some good stuff before and he has a system which we will have to hope works. But let's not act like he was not an absolute disaster at United.

 

[SuperPippo]

They're too broke to afford Frattesi.

 

[R.Akbar]

 

[R.Akbar]

Until he get rid of RLC
He is not fodder killer

I got no defense against this.

 

[Kmoney]

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Just what we need here, I like him

Amorim should have added you to the shortlist

 

[General]

Biggest mistake we made was not selling Maignon earlier when he had a decent market value.

I mean he is still worth what 20 25 I guess but this was a blunder, forget Leao and others.

@Curupira @Pigeon

Easiest spots to upgrade for quota purposes would be getting Italian GKs and Italian Cbs. Missed the trick there.

100% but let me give a counter argument in a devil’s argument perspective

I’m officially coining it the RnB commode ‘diavolo’ argument

while I don’t disagree at all with what you’re saying, consider these points

milan historically has a track record of holding on to players past their peak market value for various reasons including the player doesn’t want to leave (missed out on 91M from city with kaka) ti situations.. some players just like the healthy salary they’ve been getting and tell Milan they want to stay and benefit from that etc etc

but when Milan do sell at a higher dollar amount… think the tijani’s and tonali‘s of the world, theres incredible backlash on the forum

the argument for mike to have been sold at the peak of his value or at least at a higher amount than what Milan can grab now is also made a bit more complicated with hindsight. His behavior this week makes it easier to say that we should have done something in the past

I think it’s a bit more complicated than that

selling france‘a starting GK that is known worldwide for flashes of incredible skill in a management environment that values the brand value of a player is really unlikely

then you get the overwhelming RnB criticism of Milan being a selling club if we did do that

I think it’s in group bias where we think Milan is the worst at most things and tremendously worse than every other clin out there.

we aren’t and Milan have made some decent sell at the right time moves… thiaw is another good return that isn’t talked about enough

in the moment, without current information about Mike being an idiot, I don’t think we ever would have celebrated Mike being sold a year or two ago

 

[Kaka06/07]

Tbh we are getting rid of all the right players. Can't get rid of them all at once otherwise what would we do next transfer window. Amourim has picked players he feels he can utilise and if they have decent seasons we either keep or sell for more. The ones who are going are those he gave a chance to. That I itself is.good management. Not only financially but also psychologically because as a player you know you were given opportunity to show your worth. I.think this is going to work but I belive this season top 4 is fair. Then we can push into next season. I hope we buy young players who.can grow into the team. I feel like it's a big season for cisse for me. He will be 20 this year. He needs to show something. I think he will. Being vice puli means less pressure. Also puli on the left where he can cut in will be amazing imo. Idk I think there are so many positives. But we to need 2x cam. 1 cb. 1wb. And probably a st. I would personally add another cb as I.think that is our weakness and impacts the rest of the team.

 

[Hitchens]

This sounds both warranted and very disparaging for our coming season. Good luck Amorim!

 

[sheva]

I don't see how 'Amorim getting rid of fodders' (he didn't btw, he just 'assessed' them) serves as any merit/hopium for him.
Every coach we had in the last decade 'got rid of fodders', and management accumulated new ones.
CDK, Okafor, Hernandez, Adli, all were let go since they were unfit to wear the shirt.

You know who managed to deal with fodders and still win? Padre.
Guy took a squad of Bennacer, Kjaer, Fik, Calabria, Messias, and a 40-year-old Ibra and won a Scudetto. Hell, reached new heights every season thereafter, getting nothing he wanted in the transfer market.
Only in his last contract season did he have any involvement in the transfer market iirc, under Redbird (and even that was probably for show).

Amorim having the same 'eye test' as a regular commoder in RnB should be worrying, not hopeful. Seeing that Fof, Estupid, and Terraciano are grade z footballers could be accomplished by Twitter highlights. Let's see how he's working with the given situation, and what he does with it.

 

[forward]

Freezing out fodders is cute and shit, but the real question is - who's gonna be in the starting 11 in 3 weeks time.

Our midfield is pretty much non existent.
The fate of the season will be determined by our signings, not by our sales.

 

[tonyb]

El Mala - yes please.
Young, hungry and ready to prove his worth. Will keep improving. Not crazy salary.

Exactly what I asked for yesterday

 

[papaberlu]

Youssouf Fofana is pushing to join Juventus.

Milan are asking for €17–18m, with the possibility of including a player in the deal. At the moment, the only Juventus player the Rossoneri would consider is Nico González.

@sportmediaset

Please no

 

[papaberlu]

Amorim redemption arc incoming

Redemption? There hasn’t even been an official match yet lol