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he should have gotten the ball before Weah but was caught sleeping
He was the first defender to notice a run and turn towards our goal. you could maybe say he could have offside trapped but then if he switches his weight and thuram doesn't pass and goes forward, he's a bit out of the play and it's overall a risky thing to try w the passer having that much control
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you show me 1 video of a defender covering that much ground, accelerating from jogging speed, going against an already sprinting attacker receiving the ball wide into open space and the defender getting to the ball first. just 1 instance of it happening

and in cause there's any "but he could have noticed the path of weah's run and ran diagonally" -> he shouldn't. you dont give up the inside and you can't see if the attacker changes his run behind you. eventually he's gonna try to go back inside cause that's where the goal is, you dont run wide before the pass is played and risk letting the attacker through centrally
 
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This board has lost my support.
I said am gonna give their first season a pass & judge them based on their second one mainly the coach & they did a shit job.
This squad is so poorly build that i dont mind Tomo to be sold so maybe by cheer luck they will bring someone that elevate the squad.
Move & bring whoever you want & lets see.
 

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He was the first defender to notice a run and turn towards our goal. you could maybe say he could have offside trapped but then if he switches his weight and thuram doesn't pass he's out of the play
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you show me 1 video of a defender covering that much ground, accelerating from jogging speed, going against an already sprinting attacker receiving the ball wide into open space and the defender getting to the ball first. just 1 instance of it happening
This proves my point exactly, he is just backtracking instead of running towards the ball and the player, giving Weah all the time in the world to control, dribble and shoot, compare that with Gatti for example, in the first part where he goes directly to the ball and Theo and tackles. But it seems I hve really high standards for this players...
 

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Following this team is very frustrating but the bottom line is that our players are not good enough, not only because of lack of effort but also because of lack of talent, we have too many players not worthy of the Milan jersey and the few that are sometimes show up and other times don't.

I was watching Atalanta-Napoli and would love getting some of their players: Retegui 14 goals in 19 appearances but some here would call him a fodder, Ederson, by far the best midfielder in Serie A, never saw him play poorly or without giving all he has, De Roon a steady hand that fights like a lion, and Lookman best LW in Serie A vastly superior to Leao, fantastic shooter and assist-man with a high fooballing IQ. They lost but it was a magnificent match to watch that momentarely made me forget our pathetic club.

I love Mc Tominey at Napoli, a nose for the goal, great shot and 5 goals scored, Lobotka that directs traffic flawlessly, Anguissa a real warrior that assisted on Lukaku's splendid header for the winner that none of our attackers would be capable of, Di Lorenzo's work rate, Conte that many here didn't want but who has taken a 10th place squad to the top of the table, 19 points ahead of us. I don't give a fuck that he doesn't do well in Europe because at least he gets there while we're lucky if we make Europa League.

I get ridiculed for the fact that I continue to press for more Italians at Milan but the clubs ahead of us have them in the squad and they're rarely accused of being lazy. Look at Locatelli yesterday, he was better than all of our midfielders put together, pinpoint passing and awesome defensive cover . Workhorses like Tonali, Barella, (who plays in every game and is never accused of being tired), Bastoni, Di Lorenzo, Cambiaso, Di Marco, Ruggeri, Ricci, Buongiorno when healthy, Scalvini, Zaccagni, Orsolini, Lucca, Rovella, even Politano, and they all give everything they got.

Italy has the best goalies in Carnesecchi, Di Gregorio, Meret, Vicario, all better than our flashy Mignan who lets in easy scores at the near post and weak on low shots. Even the Cagliari keeper newly acquired from Napoli for 6 millions, Caprile, out played our French show-off. Atalanta had 5 Italian starters with 4 coming off the bench, Napoli 3 with two off the bench, and Juve had 4 with one off the bench. But we're the smart ones for keeping them away from our club preferring an international mix. These internationals don't give two fucks about Milan, and so we suck and are basically mid-table.

Milan needs a revolution from top to bottom, including selling Leao and Theo if they don't perform more consistenly, the fraud Maignan, the ineffective Tomori, fat Bennacer, Musah, Morata/Abraham, along with usual suspects Chuck, RLC, Florenzi and Calabria out of contract, Terracciano, Okafor, Jovic, while I would give Pavlovic a chance. Jimenez was awful yesterday, should only be used as Theo sub, but I'd send him back to Futuro.

Our directors our among the worst in history, even our Futuro one, KIvroski, hired by Ibra because he was his friend in MLS but with hardly any experience with young Italian and European footballers. With him and Bonera we're doomed and shamefully sent to D where my little town of 6000 people play and our athletes have jobs outside sports to survive financially. Climbing from this mess will be difficult, we need to fire everyone involved, desert the stadium and send thousands of messages and emails to Gerry of our disdain for him and the staff he put tgether. Fuck Gerry who's killing my team.
 
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Maignan could and should have stopped both goals yesterday and he had a good game? Abraham had an oustanding game too then as he was suppose to score and assist but didn't by your own logic... The goal from Weah shows Tomori as he is, an athletic freak with very bad defensive instincts, he should have gotten the ball before Weah but was caught sleeping, and then he half assed his deffense allowing him to shoot without barely even any interference, but I guess now the defenders don't have to be physical just stay 3 meters off the striker and pretend to block the shot...

I rate both Tomori and Maignan, not as highly as many here but I do rate them, as borderline CL players, but yesterday the game was awful from both of them.
And how many awful games we've seen from Maignan this season? I'm sick of his act and the excuses, doesn't deserve the money he's asking for and would sell him to the highest bidder.
 

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I was watching Atalanta-Napoli and would love getting some of their players: Retegui 14 goals in 19 appearances but some here would call him a fodder, Ederson, by far the best midfielder in Serie A, never saw him play poorly or without giving all he has, De Roon a steady hand that fights like a lion, and Lookman best LW in Serie A vastly superior to Leao, fantastic shooter and assist-man with a high fooballing IQ. They lost but it was a magnificent match to watch that momentarely made me forget our pathetic club.
Atalanta players are great while they play in Gasperini's system. Once they leave they are not so good
We need to find a coach who knows what he is doing and buy players he wants, not anyone who is available or Moncada liked
 

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And how many awful games we've seen from Maignan this season? I'm sick of his act and the excuses, doesn't deserve the money he's asking for and would sell him to the highest bidder.
I am quite down with Maignan too, but I don't trust Dumb&Dumber to get a replacement, and he wouldn't net much money anyway, I just want to see more of Torriani, the sooner the better.
 

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And how many awful games we've seen from Maignan this season? I'm sick of his act and the excuses, doesn't deserve the money he's asking for and would sell him to the highest bidder.
This is the third season in a row where Maignan has been below par (conceding more goals than post shot xG). Scudetto season was a fluke for him. The first upgrade we need is a better goalkeeper.

Renewing him till 2029 pm 5m wages would be extremely stupid. Goalkeeper is one of the easiest positions to replace, and where “moneyball” makes the most sense.
 

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Atalanta players are great while they play in Gasperini's system. Once they leave they are not so good
We need to find a coach who knows what he is doing and buy players he wants, not anyone who is available or Moncada liked
Gasperini has some magic touch but management is very good at finding gems in the mercato and selling them at huge plusvalenza. Retegui made the national team while at Genoa, Ruggeri is an emerging talent from their youth system, same for Scalvini, Carnesecchi, and Scamacca who's been out injured, while Bellanova was very good at Torino and cost 20 millions.

I laugh when I read that they're not a big club and there's no pressure. They have a small population but been a big club for many years, regularly made the CL, beat Liverpool, and won an Europa League. I'm sure they felt pressure in those matches but their players are mentally strong while ours are not. And they also built a splendid new stadium while we're still years away.
 

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Gasperini has some magic touch but management is very good at finding gems in the mercato and selling them at huge plusvalenza. Retegui made the national team while at Genoa, Ruggeri is an emerging talent from their youth system, same for Scalvini, Carnesecchi, and Scamacca who's been out injured, while Bellanova was very good at Torino and cost 20 millions.

I laugh when I read that they're not a big club and there's no pressure. They have a small population but been a big club for many years, regularly made the CL, beat Liverpool, and won an Europa League. I'm sure they felt pressure in those matches but their players are mentally strong while ours are not. And they also built a splendid new stadium while we're still years away.
At the moment Atalanta is big club.
Milan is not. This is truth. Nothing works well in the club. Redbird destroyed after two season club.
 

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At the moment Atalanta is big club.
Milan is not. This is truth. Nothing works well in the club. Redbird destroyed after two season club.
Redturd
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Absolute clowns.
 

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It’s looking bad real bad. If we don't make top 4, I think the “star players” will finally leave to serious clubs. No way this management is capable of putting together a good squad. How longer it takes to be a serious club, how harder it gets to attract quality players. The pull of this club is already low. Kids these days don’t care about Milan's past, maybe only if their parents were Milan fans back in the day. 2007 is almost 20 years ago. After scudetto #19 it felt we like we were almost there….2-3 years away from being Milan again.
 

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Gerry is a fool if he doesn't replace every one of these mofos with actual professionals and if he doesn't it means he doesn't care. I'm pissed at Elliott for selling to Redturd, and hope Cuntinale goes bankrupt.
 

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I was watching Atalanta-Napoli and would love getting some of their players: Retegui 14 goals in 19 appearances but some here would call him a fodder, Ederson, by far the best midfielder in Serie A, never saw him play poorly or without giving all he has
koopmeiners was looking like a world class midfielder at atalanta too. would you say he is the same player at juve? someone they paid 50m for?
thuram who cost much less and came from another league is out performing him

don’t let atalanta’s fraud system distract you from the fact that someone like retegui is a certified fodder

agree with most of your post tho
 

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I just hope that somehow giuve cant redeem kalulu so we can get him back and never let him play again for our team
 

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Everyone complaining about Fofana and Tij clearly have never kicked ball or cardio. You try covering the yards they did this season and run the same amount. We so desperately need some decent midfield options to take the strain off them.

I get what you're saying, and I don't disagree that Fofana and Reijnders have put in a massive shift this season. They've been crucial for us, and the lack of rotation options certainly isn't helping their case. But looking at the numbers, they're far from being the only midfielders in Serie A with a heavy workload.

For instance, players like Anguissa, Éderson, and even Guendouzi have played more minutes than our guys, and they don't seem to be showing the same levels of fatigue. Now, of course, context matters – squad depth, playing style, and even the way they recover between games all play a role. But it does make you wonder: why do our players seem to hit the wall so much earlier compared to others?

Taken from Transfermarkt:

Top 10 Serie A Midfielders by Minutes Played (2024/2025 Season):

1. Frank Anguissa (SSC Napoli)1,863 minutes (21 matches, 27 minutes missed)
2. Éderson (Atalanta BC)1,784 minutes (21 matches, 106 minutes missed)
3. Remo Freuler (Bologna FC 1909)1,774 minutes (20 matches, 116 minutes missed)
4. Mattéo Guendouzi (SS Lazio)1,757 minutes (20 matches, 133 minutes missed)
5. Morten Frendrup (Genoa CFC)1,757 minutes (20 matches, 133 minutes missed)
6. Marten de Roon (Atalanta BC)1,755 minutes (20 matches, 135 minutes missed)
7. Jesper Karlström (Udinese Calcio)1,705 minutes (20 matches, 185 minutes missed)
8. Samuele Ricci (Torino FC)1,683 minutes (20 matches, 207 minutes missed)
9. Warren Bondo (AC Monza)1,623 minutes (20 matches, 267 minutes missed)
10. Simon Sohm (Parma Calcio 1913)1,602 minutes (20 matches, 288 minutes missed)

In comparison:
- Youssouf Fofana (AC Milan)1,573 minutes (19 matches, 317 minutes missed)
- Tijjani Reijnders (AC Milan)1,533 minutes (19 matches, 357 minutes missed)

Sure, you could argue that someone like Anguissa or players from lower ranked teams doesn’t have the added burden of European competitions, but in the end, Serie A teams all play roughly the same number of games across domestic competitions. Conceicao himself pointed out that hunger and mentality are key factors to deal with fatigue.

I'm not saying fatigue isn't real, but when you see other teams players coping not only a little bit, but infact much better with similar demands, you start to wonder if our issues go beyond just tired legs.

Something doesn't quite add up.
 

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And how many awful games we've seen from Maignan this season? I'm sick of his act and the excuses, doesn't deserve the money he's asking for and would sell him to the highest bidder.
Please remind us what goals were his fault(except cagliari) ?
 

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Following this team is very frustrating but the bottom line is that our players are not good enough, not only because of lack of effort but also because of lack of talent, we have too many players not worthy of the Milan jersey and the few that are sometimes show up and other times don't.

I was watching Atalanta-Napoli and would love getting some of their players: Retegui 14 goals in 19 appearances but some here would call him a fodder, Ederson, by far the best midfielder in Serie A, never saw him play poorly or without giving all he has, De Roon a steady hand that fights like a lion, and Lookman best LW in Serie A vastly superior to Leao, fantastic shooter and assist-man with a high fooballing IQ. They lost but it was a magnificent match to watch that momentarely made me forget our pathetic club.

I love Mc Tominey at Napoli, a nose for the goal, great shot and 5 goals scored, Lobotka that directs traffic flawlessly, Anguissa a real warrior that assisted on Lukaku's splendid header for the winner that none of our attackers would be capable of, Di Lorenzo's work rate, Conte that many here didn't want but who has taken a 10th place squad to the top of the table, 19 points ahead of us. I don't give a fuck that he doesn't do well in Europe because at least he gets there while we're lucky if we make Europa League.

I get ridiculed for the fact that I continue to press for more Italians at Milan but the clubs ahead of us have them in the squad and they're rarely accused of being lazy. Look at Locatelli yesterday, he was better than all of our midfielders put together, pinpoint passing and awesome defensive cover . Workhorses like Tonali, Barella, (who plays in every game and is never accused of being tired), Bastoni, Di Lorenzo, Cambiaso, Di Marco, Ruggeri, Ricci, Buongiorno when healthy, Scalvini, Zaccagni, Orsolini, Lucca, Rovella, even Politano, and they all give everything they got.

Italy has the best goalies in Carnesecchi, Di Gregorio, Meret, Vicario, all better than our flashy Mignan who lets in easy scores at the near post and weak on low shots. Even the Cagliari keeper newly acquired from Napoli for 6 millions, Caprile, out played our French show-off. Atalanta had 5 Italian starters with 4 coming off the bench, Napoli 3 with two off the bench, and Juve had 4 with one off the bench. But we're the smart ones for keeping them away from our club preferring an international mix. These internationals don't give two fucks about Milan, and so we suck and are basically mid-table.

Milan needs a revolution from top to bottom, including selling Leao and Theo if they don't perform more consistenly, the fraud Maignan, the ineffective Tomori, fat Bennacer, Musah, Morata/Abraham, along with usual suspects Chuck, RLC, Florenzi and Calabria out of contract, Terracciano, Okafor, Jovic, while I would give Pavlovic a chance. Jimenez was awful yesterday, should only be used as Theo sub, but I'd send him back to Futuro.

Our directors our among the worst in history, even our Futuro one, KIvroski, hired by Ibra because he was his friend in MLS but with hardly any experience with young Italian and European footballers. With him and Bonera we're doomed and shamefully sent to D where my little town of 6000 people play and our athletes have jobs outside sports to survive financially. Climbing from this mess will be difficult, we need to fire everyone involved, desert the stadium and send thousands of messages and emails to Gerry of our disdain for him and the staff he put tgether. Fuck Gerry who's killing my team.
Great post. By any chance you have Gerry's email. I would just like to send him a friendly email. I have a script ready already. I would like to CC in furlani ibra and mondonkey on it too. All can get it.

And yes you are right. Many degenerates dint want cont here lmao.

He even benched kvara and still kicks ass. Kvara their best player. Lawl

Tomminay is a solid player.
 

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Gerry is a fool if he doesn't replace every one of these mofos with actual professionals and if he doesn't it means he doesn't care. I'm pissed at Elliott for selling to Redturd, and hope Cuntinale goes bankrupt.
He is the poorest owner in serie a out of all rich owners lmao.

He has a net worth of 300 mil.
 
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Gasperini has some magic touch but management is very good at finding gems in the mercato and selling them at huge plusvalenza. Retegui made the national team while at Genoa, Ruggeri is an emerging talent from their youth system, same for Scalvini, Carnesecchi, and Scamacca who's been out injured, while Bellanova was very good at Torino and cost 20 millions.

I laugh when I read that they're not a big club and there's no pressure. They have a small population but been a big club for many years, regularly made the CL, beat Liverpool, and won an Europa League. I'm sure they felt pressure in those matches but their players are mentally strong while ours are not. And they also built a splendid new stadium while we're still years away.
Atalanta are the kings of inferior quality epl

That is the truth. We all will never forget their absolute mauling of both German fodder champions and loserpool trash.
 

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koopmeiners was looking like a world class midfielder at atalanta too. would you say he is the same player at juve? someone they paid 50m for?
thuram who cost much less and came from another league is out performing him

don’t let atalanta’s fraud system distract you from the fact that someone like retegui is a certified fodder

agree with most of your post tho
Any Italian is 90% of the time striaght fodder.

But the trick is to get an Italian with high work rate as in stamina, skill which is rarely possible given talented italians are rare and someone who is physically strong ideally. They are the types that can do well for big clubs and won't fail due to pressure.

Atleast check two of those boxes.

Retegui is fodder imo. He would always fail in big clubs. Koop looks average for Rube. I do think ederson is high quality though. So is scalvini and lookman. And scammca is decent enough striker.

But he wouldn't be any better than Tammy if he came here.
 

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