The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

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I can't believe some of you are crying over Theo. Even with Pobega we wouldn't have conceded at least half of these goals.

If Allegri could convert Cuadrado to RB, than he can do the same with Salad. His backup will be Jimenez. For LB, I think we will rotate Bartesaghi and Terracciano.

It sucks that we haven't purchased a fullback so far. This is a big mistake. I think the Pobega LB rumours are made up by journalist. A LB I think is a bigger priority now. We should sign a good LB ideally before our Asian tour begins. We have money, we are in +75 mil as of now, with lots of deadwood still to sell. I would allocate a bigger portion of our budget to a high-quality LB, someone like Udogie, or Cambiaso.

Imagine going from this
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Who is the second one?
 

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Modric is not going to be bossing Serie A. If Allegri can utilise him intelligently he will prove to be a real asset on and off the field.

Yes Milan will only be playing one game a week and then in the Coppa Italia. But at his age even if fit an injury takes longer to recover from and a bad injury longer. I doubt he will be with Milan for more than one season. It will be his final season as a pro.

If it works great but Modric needs a rotation player and Milan have relegated Adli for some ridiculous reason. Is Adli the new Zizou no, but why waste a perfectly good rotation player.

Anyway just a thought
 

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In my 30+ years of following football and reading virtually every article about Milan — with internet access at home all that time — I can tell you one thing with certainty:

There’s no such thing as "a bid has been submitted" being leaked to the media while it’s still under consideration. If a bid truly exists, by the time it reaches the newspapers, it has either already been accepted (in which case the story takes a very different angle) or rejected.

So when you see a vague headline about a bid being "submitted," it almost always means one of two things:

  1. The bid was already rejected, or
  2. It's completely made up.
That’s how the cycle works — trust me, I've seen it play out too many times.
 

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I can't believe some of you are crying over Theo. Even with Pobega we wouldn't have conceded at least half of these goals.

If Allegri could convert Cuadrado to RB, than he can do the same with Salad. His backup will be Jimenez. For LB, I think we will rotate Bartesaghi and Terracciano.

It sucks that we haven't purchased a fullback so far. This is a big mistake. I think the Pobega LB rumours are made up by journalist. A LB I think is a bigger priority now. We should sign a good LB ideally before our Asian tour begins. We have money, we are in +75 mil as of now, with lots of deadwood still to sell. I would allocate a bigger portion of our budget to a high-quality LB, someone like Udogie, or Cambiaso.

Imagine going from this
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To this
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1. Football is a team sport. Bra.
We conceded shit goals all season from the right, from the left and from the center.

2. There were numerous attempts to bench Theo, and we continuing sucking dick against Sassuolos. See point 1.

I know simple brains only understand simple solutions - aka 1 player to blame for a shit season. Well good fucking luck with that.

We will find out soon enough what kind of goals Pobega concedes and which one he doesn't.
 

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There are players who upper management decide on, regardless of what the manager (and it seems SD, as well) think.

Monica Colombo of CDS said that Allegri wanted to rehabilitate Theo, "but when he arrived at Milan, certain decisions had already been made." She added that the sale of Reijnders was done before Allegri was consulted, as was the decision to sell Theo.

Bianchin of GDS seems to have the inside scoop on the situation with Adli, noting that he "has never made controversy and it is difficult to think that it will begin this time" despite this extreme choice to deal with Adli this way.

What is infuriating about talking about Adli, though, is this notion that he was rejected by several coaches. Pioli was the one who rejected him, to his own detriment, before conceding that he was wrong, publicly, when he relied on Adli.

It seems that Adli, like Saelemaekers, were players' whose fates were decided regardless of what the coach wanted--Fonseca notably underlined that he wanted to rely on Alexis before he was loaned out. It was reported in multiple places that Adli was on the way out before Fonseca's appointment, if I remember correctly. However, it's not like I'm going to hold Fonseca's opinion in high regard--the issue is that our management make choices regardless. It's why we pushed out CDK after his nightmare first season, but continue to rely on Chuk, despite being a horrific signing, himself.

Bianchin notes that Fiorentina did not reject him, writing: "he [Adli] let Fiorentina know that he did not want to continue in purple – he aimed to play a place for Milan." Again, Adli's problems in the second half of the season were due to injury, he did not lose his place. Palladino did so poorly that he got fired, mind you. Adli returned to Milan because, as Bianchin writes that Adli "would like to try to convince Allegri to give him a place in squad," but notes that at the moment, it isn't possible because the club (i.e. management) want to sell him.

If the report that Spartak offered 18m is true--interest Bianchin confirms in his report [though not the figure]--it shows that Adli does have a significant market value, making the choice to relegate him to Futuro an odd choice, as again, Adli has not made any trouble, there are no reports of him doing that. Early reports pointed to Napoli interest, while he has also been linked to many clubs in the past, Sevilla, Lille, Eintract Frankfurt, and it seems the most concrete link was Ajax. He rejected them to play for Milan, so it's not like he doesn't have a market.

Bianchin writes: "it is likely that he [Adli] will end up making a decision only in August, when market opportunities multiply." Adli isn't rejecting moves out-of-spite, but because he doesn't want to go to Moscow or the Gulf. Not exactly a crime, especially for someone who has been a consumate professional.

It seems like they are determined to push Adli out, with Adli's preference to go to a European team, rather than Saudi, Qatari, or Russian offers that have come, so far--which I don't think is a partiuclarly good reason to send him to Serie D.

My read on this is confusion, why not give him the chance to prove himself to Allegri? It's clear that Allegri is not the one pushing him out, based on the available reporting, rather, it is a choice made by management. Are they upset that he rejected Fiorentina and want to punish him? Are they upset he won't take the Spartak deal, which would benefit them greatly?

The major concern for me, is not Adli, honestly, it isn't. It is the fact that we still have a disconnect between management, our sporting director, and even our manager. It is not Tare or Allegri who are making this decision, but Furlani and Moncada, who have shown that they are genuinely incompetent. The reports of their decision making, independent of other executives, still is rearing its head, confirmed by multiple outlets, over several different players plus illustrated in several incidents, many public.

Allegri and Tare don't see Adli worth a fight, hell, Allegri wanted to keep Theo it seems he didn't put that much of a fight for him, it seems Mike is the one that Allegri gets to keep. I think it becomes clear why Berta (and other potential SDs) didn't want this job--they wouldn't be given the necessary control to fix things. It also makes sense why they would go for Allegri over Conte, Allegri doesn't have the same combative history that Conte or Sarri do.

For those who dismiss my concerns saying that I am biased over Adli, the question then must be asked: why is Devis Vasquez getting the same treatment after finally having a good season and being at his most marketable? What is the logic there?
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i wonder what happened to kessie rumours... i would so gladly take him back as long as his wages are reasonable (4-5m/szn)

i think laporte is also a decent option for CB if we have room. he will bring valuable experience and will be a great partner for tomori.

i think ideally though, the best cb we could get is calafiori but he's going to be out of reach. he's a very modern attacking cb. maybe next season.
 

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Last contract year . Six months to free negotiations . Should they extend it now , to check if Allegri like him ?

So Tare and Allegri are not good already . It does not take much time .
What would be the harm of letting him come to pre-season? See if Allegri likes him, if not, sell him.

And if you do want to sell him, is putting him with Futuro going to get you bids that match the 18m bid you got from Spartak? No, teams who were interested in him are going to give you terrible offers.

I didn't say anything about Tare or Allegri not being good, I'm saying that there are reports, from multiple sources, that show that Tare and Allegri are already dealing with the interference of management--the architects of our disaster season (worse than Mirabelli and Li) all still have a job and that's a terrible situation.
 

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What would be the harm of letting him come to pre-season? See if Allegri likes him, if not, sell him.

And if you do want to sell him, is putting him with Futuro going to get you bids that match the 18m bid you got from Spartak? No, teams who were interested in him are going to give you terrible offers.

I didn't say anything about Tare or Allegri not being good, I'm saying that there are reports, from multiple sources, that show that Tare and Allegri are already dealing with the interference of management--the architects of our disaster season (worse than Mirabelli and Li) all still have a job and that's a terrible situation.
Allegri did not call him for pre season . Did you think that he does not know him ? Who do you think send Vazquez to Futuro ?
 

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Allegri did not call him for pre season . Did you think that he does not know him ? Who do you think send Vazquez to Futuro ?
Reports say that management made that choice. There are other players who we want to sell who are training with the first-team squad, who aren't in our plans.

Are you telling me we are going to rely on Lorenzo Colombo?
 

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Last time we had a ballon d’or winner was a washed up kaka. Now it’s washed up Modric. Not expecting any miracles from him, but I like him as a player - given our squad quality it won’t be surprising if he turns out to be the best player
 

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Reports say that management made that choice. There are other players who we want to sell who are training with the first-team squad, who aren't in our plans.

Are you telling me we are going to rely on Lorenzo Colombo?
You mean Tare and Allegri ? Because those are the people who are deciding which players will they need for first team .
Those players are the ones which maybe we will sell , maybe we will not .

I hope not . Colombo is there because presently our other ST is resting after Gold Cup . Once we sign another one he will leave hopefully .

There is no single word or gesture from Tare , Allegri , Moncada , Furlani that there is any problem between them . No any , even sound from our insider , yet we have already Clash of The Titans for power inside the club , reported by nobody else .
 
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Wolves are pushing in talks to sign Marc Pubill with negotiations underway.

Wolves want to anticipate Italian clubs, still keen on the player and interested.

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You mean Tare and Allegri ? Because those are the people who are deciding which players will they need for first team .
Those players are the ones which maybe we will sell , maybe we will not .

I hope not . Colombo is there because presently our other ST is resting after Gold Cup . Once we sign another one he will leave hopefully .

There is no single word or gesture from Tare , Allegri , Moncada , Furlani that there is any problem between them . No any , even sound from our insider , yet we have already Clash of The Titans for power inside the club , reported by nobody else .
No, the report from Bianchin says that the club (not Allegri or Tare) have made the choice on Adli, unless I misread the article and missed out on nuance? Monica Colombo of CDS has said, on-the-record, that the club decided to sell Reijnders before the new members took their positions.

Colombo said that Allegri preferred to keep Theo, but the club (i.e. Furlani, et al) made the choice to sell Theo.

They aren't fighting, it's been a few weeks--if things go badly, you'll see those reports come out soon. We'll see how the market goes.

Again, my concern is: if the same morons who managed to get us in 8th place are all still in-place--doesn't that worry you?

And even if Allegri decided to sell Adli, that could be true, why put him in the Futuro? What purpose does that serve? Colombo is going to be sold/loaned out, did we send him to the Futuro? Why did we send Vasquez to the Futuro?

Did Vasquez make BBQ, too? Did Vasquez act like he wanted to stick around? No. So what's the point?
 

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