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The Rumour Commode XXXI: The Panther Era

Thread starter Hitchens
Start date Dec 14, 2020

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ROSSONERI7

Myself

Mar 2, 2021

#19,651

Hitchens said:
I think it's a chickenshit attitude, but also understandable. He is at an age where he probably feels he has to play CL football.

Indeed, we?re fans.
He has a career to think of.

ROSSONERI7

Myself

Mar 2, 2021

#19,652

brk said:
I'll definitely be ok with selling him for 20m. A lot of the profit will go to Roma if we sell him for more than 25m, 40% I think, so at some point it starts to stop being worth it to try and raise his value, especially if it means paying him anywhere close to what he's asking. We already have a better captain in Donnarumma. We already have a better defender in Tomori. I think pieces are already falling in place for him to move on in the summer, and for all we know this was the plan all along and is the reason he changed his agent to Raiola.

We got a hell of a lot loser to securing CL qualification with the win at Roma. We're at around 8 or 9 points clear now, with 42 points left to play for. If we keep that distance and we're at around the 30th game of the season I think it will be very safe to assume we're making it to the CL and at that point I think Gigio will sign, and hopefully Hakan also.

So much of our plans for next season depend on securing CL qualification. Maldini and Elliott are very risk averse and will not take any decisions ahead of time that can be delayed to reduce risk. Signing Gigio or Hakan on high long term contracts and then we collapse and miss out on the CL, that might be a disaster, since we can't then afford to reinforce the team. It makes sense to set everything up with them and only sign once qualification is secured. I hope that's the situation.

Yup. Moving with surgical precision.
Especially seeing our main rivals being shackled by stupid wage bills...and they have CL money.

mrki

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,653

This summer Romagnoli will be sold, ok. 25mln and its ok. Good and average-good player. 6mln... loooool

Hitchens

In flux

New Era Vanguard

Mar 2, 2021

#19,654

brk said:
I'll definitely be ok with selling him for 20m. A lot of the profit will go to Roma if we sell him for more than 25m, 40% I think, so at some point it starts to stop being worth it to try and raise his value, especially if it means paying him anywhere close to what he's asking. We already have a better captain in Donnarumma. We already have a better defender in Tomori. I think pieces are already falling in place for him to move on in the summer, and for all we know this was the plan all along and is the reason he changed his agent to Raiola.

We got a hell of a lot loser to securing CL qualification with the win at Roma. We're at around 8 or 9 points clear now, with 42 points left to play for. If we keep that distance and we're at around the 30th game of the season I think it will be very safe to assume we're making it to the CL and at that point I think Gigio will sign, and hopefully Hakan also.

So much of our plans for next season depend on securing CL qualification. Maldini and Elliott are very risk averse and will not take any decisions ahead of time that can be delayed to reduce risk. Signing Gigio or Hakan on high long term contracts and then we collapse and miss out on the CL, that might be a disaster, since we can't then afford to reinforce the team. It makes sense to set everything up with them and only sign once qualification is secured. I hope that's the situation.

I hadn't even thought of how self-explanatory it is that it is depending on CL qualification :lol:

:lol:

I will halt my annoyance at these player until top 4 is in the bag.

Hitchens

In flux

New Era Vanguard

Mar 2, 2021

#19,655

mrki said:
This summer Romagnoli will be sold, ok. 25mln and its ok. Good and average-good player. 6mln... loooool

Who will pay 25mln for Roma?

If we get 20 we should run, would be an amazing deal with only one year left of his contract.

mrki

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,656

They are building a really strong team. We have some really strong players: donna, theo, kjaer, tomori, kessie, benna, rebic, ibra... some will further develop.

Every big team needs also a great group of coaches and not to have 30 muscle injuries. Those things are simply not allowed.

Then adding few srs quality players year by year and in 2 years this Milan will be a top team. 3, 4 players on the levels of kessie, theo are needed.

IL Diavolo 3

Fester

New Era Vanguard

Mar 2, 2021

#19,657

@Anus

Torcida

Milan Icon

Mar 2, 2021

#19,658

Shipping Roma to Chelski for Tomori would be great and seems doable.

brk

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,659

Hitchens said:
Who will pay 25mln for Roma?

If we get 20 we should run, would be an amazing deal with only one year left of his contract.

A left footed ball playing defender? Some teams will spend 30m on a cardboard cutout that has that description.

taura

Attaccareeee

Mar 2, 2021

#19,660

Milan have reportedly entered talks with Chelsea over a permanent move for Fikayo Tomori, but hope to lower the price.

The English centre-back impressed with a great performance against Roma on Sunday evening and ********** reports the Rossoneri have already contacted the Blues.

The Diavolo are hoping to lower the price tag in the option to buy the Chelsea loanee, set at ?28m when the youngster arrived in January.

In the coming weeks it will be understood if the Londoners are willing to give Milan a discount, but in the meantime, Pioli can count on the defender for the rest of the season.

The 23-year-old has played four games in Serie A since his move to the fashion capital and has played seven competitive games with the Diavolo across all competitions.

VooDooDoll

))<>((

Mar 2, 2021

#19,661

maybe some epl teams (they like to throw money) or a.madrid (prefer defensive football) would pay more for romag.
selling for below 30 millions looks like bad deal...

Pingu

American Calcio Milan

Stream Guru

Mar 2, 2021

#19,662

If Romagnoli gets 6m a year then we have a problem. Everyone else in the squad is entitled a big raise too based on relative performance. Laughable request given his last few months.

brk

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,663

VooDooDoll said:
maybe some epl teams (they like to throw money) or a.madrid (prefer defensive football) would pay more for romag.
selling for below 30 millions looks like bad deal...

I think a year from his expiry we shouldn't worry too much about getting a high fee. The fact that 40% of anything above 25m is further incentive to not care too much and just try to get him out in the summer before he becomes a serious problem. There's huge demand for his kind of profile, we will have lots of teams knocking on our door for him. Anything around 25m is great, even 20m would be good enough.

abritcemeng

Milan Icon

Mar 2, 2021

#19,664

If hakan still injured, Pioli should try Tonali as AM instead of Krunic. Let meite play alongaide president

VooDooDoll

))<>((

Mar 2, 2021

#19,665

i know but kabak costs 20 millions this days
rugani probably more than 15...
not saying we should keep him...
just sell some fake rumors to media- romag to real for 70 millions
someone may take the bait

M

milanator

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,666

Imo if we sell Roma we should use it to fully commit to the harakiri defense. No use in keeping Kjaer in there who had the same problems against Roma that Romagnoli had in previous matches thanks to the defensive situations they are put in.

I can also understand that players like Romagnoli and Hakan want significant raises, they are now age wise starting the prime phase of their careers and of course they want to see that in their accounts. What they can get now will also define their wage level in their early 30s.

Il grande Milan

Honey, I'm home

Mar 2, 2021

#19,667

Can never see Roma getting 6M. Which self respectable team would cough that up for him... unless he's going to EPL, but then again, Italians in EPL, kinda rare sight. And in general, that actually counts for every other league outside of Italy.

I'm also pretty sure the plan in the long run is to use him as backup CB, which he rightfully is, but will never agree to... so a sale in the end is inevitable.

Casualista

Monsieur

Mar 2, 2021

#19,668

milanator said:
Imo if we sell Roma we should use it to fully commit to the harakiri defense. .

I'd like romagnoli to commit some harakiri.

C

Chiko

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,669

abritcemeng said:
If hakan still injured, Pioli should try Tonali as AM instead of Krunic. Let meite play alongaide president

No. Why would anyone want to blind themselves. Tonali can?t pass for shit and is horrific under pressure, even Kessie could play the role better than him. Diaz has to start.

M

milanator

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,670

Casualista said:
I'd like romagnoli to commit some harakiri.

:fp:

Alo88

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,671

taura said:
Milan have reportedly entered talks with Chelsea over a permanent move for Fikayo Tomori, but hope to lower the price.

The English centre-back impressed with a great performance against Roma on Sunday evening and ********** reports the Rossoneri have already contacted the Blues.

The Diavolo are hoping to lower the price tag in the option to buy the Chelsea loanee, set at ?28m when the youngster arrived in January.

In the coming weeks it will be understood if the Londoners are willing to give Milan a discount, but in the meantime, Pioli can count on the defender for the rest of the season.

The 23-year-old has played four games in Serie A since his move to the fashion capital and has played seven competitive games with the Diavolo across all competitions.

Newspaper senior editor: we have absolutely no insights and knowledge. Will that be a problem?

Newspaper journalist: Absolutely no problem. We'll just write something with lots of if's and when's and call it a day. No one can say we were wrong no matter how things turn out.

Pingu

American Calcio Milan

Stream Guru

Mar 2, 2021

#19,672

Ibrahimovic at Sanremo conference:

On his participation in Sanremo: “When Amadeus called me I didn’t say no, I said yes. What awaits me? Amadeus told me not to worry and to be calm, I have to be myself. Sure it’s easier to score, I’m in good hands with Amadeus and Fiorello. I don’t know what awaits me, but I’m not worried, if I’m wrong no one can judge me, and if I do well even better, so I’ll have other work when I stop. I’m excited, I don’t know what awaits me. But sure we have fun.”

On the injury: “The program is always the same, I was unlucky, I had a small injury, but I can do everything. The Festival program does not change, I am always available for Amadeus.”

On the controversy with LeBron: “Racism and politics are two different things. We athletes unite the world, politics divides the world. Everyone is welcome, it has nothing to do with where you come from, we do what we do to bring them together. We don’t do other things because we are not good, otherwise I would be in politics. This is my message. Athletes must be athletes, politicians must be politicians.”

On the controversy of attending Sanremo: “I don’t think so much, those who know me know that I am a professional and I don’t have to say that I finish first or last. They have to see me as an example. When I play my football I am very focused on this thing, my goal with Milan is to help. I want to give so much to Italy for what it has given me, for so many years, and not just in football. I got the opportunity to do the Sanremo Festival and they told me that it is the most important thing that there is in Italy, and so I’ll do it.”

On the records: “There is a reason why Amadeus called me: because he wants to break all the records, and I introduce myself.”

On Lukaku being at Sanremo: “I welcome him. There is no personal problem, what you do on the pitch stays on the pitch. If he wants to come, he is welcome.”

On the welcome of Amadeus and Fiorello, two Inter fans: “Without an AC Milan player there is no derby. They repeat that they are Inter fans every five minutes and say they are first in the standings, but for the first six months I have not heard anything.

On the song with Mihajlovic: “I’ll show up on stage, I don’t know how it will go. Let’s hope Mihajlovic doesn’t know how to sing, so we’re on the same level.”

On the program: “I take one day at a time, in my opinion is the best thing. Tonight we do something. I can dance, but I dance better on the pitch. Let’s see what happens. I don’t want to have plans, I have to be Zlatan.”

Amadeus – the organiser of the festival and a life-long Inter fan – spoke about the honour of having the Swede as part of the event: “I am honoured by the presence of Ibrahimovic, he is a champion. The champions belong to everyone. He is in great shape, he is a player who is always better to have with than against. We will meet the man Ibrahimovic, that the Italian public does not know.”

Curupira

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,673

Chiko said:
No. Why would anyone want to blind themselves. Tonali can?t pass for shit and is horrific under pressure, even Kessie could play the role better than him. Diaz has to start.

Horrific under pressure is a good description.

He would constantly get dispossessed or make bad passes as a CAM

Curupira

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,674

milanator said:
Imo if we sell Roma we should use it to fully commit to the harakiri defense. No use in keeping Kjaer in there who had the same problems against Roma that Romagnoli had in previous matches thanks to the defensive situations they are put in.

I can also understand that players like Romagnoli and Hakan want significant raises, they are now age wise starting the prime phase of their careers and of course they want to see that in their accounts. What they can get now will also define their wage level in their early 30s.

It?s also understandable that it?s probably not in the clubs best interest to deal with this.

Donnarumma is a generational talent, has Milan history, and is still young which means a lot of potential. It makes sense that 2 managements so far both chose appeasement.

But Romagnoli is nowhere the same profile. I am against people bashing him and thinking primavera players would be better. But I also think Romagnoli?s improvements so far are average at best.

Curupira

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,675

VooDooDoll said:
i know but kabak costs 20 millions this days
rugani probably more than 15...
not saying we should keep him...
just sell some fake rumors to media- romag to real for 70 millions
someone may take the bait

That?s their prices without contract expiring.

Romagnolis contract expires next year and this is possibly the worst time for him to be having a dip in form.

Also, keep in mind of his 6m a year contract demand

brk

Milan Legend

Mar 2, 2021

#19,676

Cassano: “Do you know who told me Tomori was strong? Thiago Silva. I had seen him a few times, he told me “look at Tomori”. He arrived in Italy and has already won a place by taking out the AC Milan captain.”

VooDooDoll

))<>((

Mar 2, 2021

#19,677

Curupira said:
That?s their prices without contract expiring.

Romagnolis contract expires next year and this is possibly the worst time for him to be having a dip in form.

Also, keep in mind of his 6m a year contract demand

iknow,
and this wage... i doubt its real (last rumors were from december/january i believe) - newspaper giving it at the moment when he get benched?! :lol:

:lol:

taura

Attaccareeee

Mar 2, 2021

#19,678

Noone will match Romagnolis wage demands, not even prem clubs imo..thats 125k per week before tax..Van Dijk earns like 170k per week..his wage would be higher then the likes of Ruben Dias, Stones, Walker, Thiago Silva etc..aint nobody paying him that especially how shit he is lately

K

Kaka06/07

Milan Veteran

Mar 2, 2021

#19,679

Tomori and Roma swap. That way Roma don't get the sell on percentage. I think it's a win win tbh.

taura

Attaccareeee

Mar 2, 2021

#19,680

Kaka06/07 said:
Tomori and Roma swap. That way Roma don't get the sell on percentage. I think it's a win win tbh.

But swaps dont work like that..both players still have a value and clubs just decide they'll sell the players to eachother at the same price. Good thing is that Tomori is an academy player so his book value is 0, while Romagnoli's value is 25mil/7 years = 3.6mil per year, so with 1 year left on his contract, his book value is 3.6mil.

But I get what you mean, we can exchange both players for any fee between 4mil and 25mil and we dont lose any book value/roma doesnt get a penny.

The issue is that Chelsea has way too many centerbacks, they've got Rudiger, Christensen, Thiago Silva (in talks to extend his contract for another year), Azpi (been playing there a lot lately), Zouma, Sarr out on loan, Guehi (youngster on loan at Swansea, doing pretty well), Ampadu (currently at Sheffield utd), Miazga, Clarke-Salter and potentially Tomori.
Yes the most of the youngsters will be shipped on but currently Rudiger and Christensen really stepped their game up, will Roma really go to a club where he can be the 4th choice behind the former two and Thiago Silva, potentially even Zouma? I dont think so

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