Official: Massimiliano Allegri Thread

[naive_harry]

dude you post the exact answer yet you still blame allegri

yes I do, I blame him, may be the injuries also originate from his training methods.

 

[luke07]

yes I do, I blame him, may be the injuries also originate from his training methods.

it's beyond BULLSHIT

hmmmm head coach doesn't prepare all team' activities, team of coach does

consist of :

fitness coach, physio, assistant manager,gk coach, and several other coach

in italy players don't train as hard as in england (FACT)

 

[naive_harry]

it's beyon BULLSHIT hmmmm head coach doesn't prepare all team' activities, team of coach does

consist of :

fitness coach, physio, assistant manager,gk coach, and several other coach

in italy players don't train as hard as in england (FACT)

Thats not me dude, thats Berlu talking. I would take the world of a guy who has owned a club for 20+ years, than you
Is it not Allegri rushing players back from injury, and not easing them back, that sidelines them again, or is there somebody else you want to blame for that as well. and how stupid and beyond retartded was to play injured Silva for the coppa match that changed our season upside down. With Silva still available, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

 

[luke07]

Thats not me dude, thats Berlu talking. I would take the world of a guy who has owned a club for 20+ years, than you

what!!!! you eat berlu shit like there is no tommorow.....

GOOD FOR YOU BUDDY....GOOD FOR YOU

 

[naive_harry]

what!!!! you eat berlu shit like there is no tommorow.....

GOOD FOR YOU BUDDY....GOOD FOR YOU

how did you manage to take the discussion towards "eating shit"
well do you have answers for the rest of the arguments in the last post?

 

[Fiero]

Ancelotti brought results, as simple as that.

Ancelotti finished 5th in 2008 and wasn't sacked.

 

[naive_harry]

Ancelotti finished 5th in 2008 and wasn't sacked.

he won CL in year 2007, see, I am not defending the actions of our management, I am just saying, that Berlu/Galliani are suckers for CL success, and Ancelotti had a lot of impression on them after winning it a couple of times, while Allegri has not done that yet and he managed to screw up the only objective we had at the start of the season.
Also in Ancelotti era, we always kept the league second in priority.

 

[Fiero]

he won CL in year 2007, see, I am not defending the actions of our management, I am just saying, that Berlu/Galliani are suckers for CL success, and Ancelotti had a lot of impression on them after winning it a couple of times, while Allegri has not done that yet and he managed to screw up the only objective we had at the start of the season.
Also in Ancelotti era, we always kept the league second in priority.

Ancelotti won nothing since May 2004 till May 2007, when Milan had the best squad in Europe.

 

[luke07]

Ancelotti won nothing since May 2004 till May 2007, when Milan had the best squad in Europe.

true dat

 

[naive_harry]

Ancelotti won nothing since May 2004 till May 2007, when Milan had the best squad in Europe.

true dat

ok, so let me get this straight, so we should let Allegri stay here and suck some more because Ancelotti did not win anything in between year 2004-06(while he was consistently either in semifinal or final of CL, gotta count for something)

OK

 

[Fiero]

ok, so let me get this straight, so we should let Allegri stay here and suck some more because Ancelotti did not win anything in between year 2004-06(while he was consistently either in semifinal or final of CL, gotta count for something)

OK

I was just proving that your argument is flawed. And Allegri isn't sucking, that's just the quality of his squad.

 

[Ash]

I was just proving that your argument is flawed. And Allegri isn't sucking, that's just the quality of his squad.

Quality of the squad really doesn't explain why he fails to motivate the team during crucial parts of the season and especially against the likes of Fiorentina and Bologna....

I like Allegri, but he really hasn't shown much whether he has what it takes to become a top level coach. He isn't imaginative at all and almost never tries to take risks and be a bit daring.....

End point is, he still needs to show A LOT MORE that he has what it takes, regardless of what squad he is being given. We weren't even impressive when we had our full squad even....

 

[naive_harry]

I was just proving that your argument is flawed. And Allegri isn't sucking, that's just the quality of his squad.

He is sooooo sucking , can not control the start players, he makes tactical decisions with Galliani aka management, lol, I am wondering if Mourinho will last a day in Milan. Lets senators have there say all the time. before all these injuries, he never rotated the squad, late subs, like somebody mentioned before, he is not proactive, always learns after making mistakes, which always cost us on the big stage.
We only won the league last year because of Zlatan, and not this manager, sorry but he is not good enough for Milan.

 

[Clarence]

He is sooooo sucking , can not control the start players, he makes tactical decisions with Galliani aka management, lol, I am wondering if Mourinho will last a day in Milan. Lets senators have there say all the time. before all these injuries, he never rotated the squad, late subs, like somebody mentioned before, he is not proactive, always learns after making mistakes, which always cost us on the big stage.
We only won the league last year because of Zlatan, and not this manager, sorry but he is not good enough for Milan.

And Zlatan is having the best season of his career up to now - THIS season..

 

[Dottore Joey]

I think we can blame Allegri a bit, but the management should be ashamed for the last summer mercato, and these injuries have to stop.

 

[Fiero]

He is sooooo sucking , can not control the start players, he makes tactical decisions with Galliani aka management, lol, I am wondering if Mourinho will last a day in Milan. Lets senators have there say all the time. before all these injuries, he never rotated the squad, late subs, like somebody mentioned before, he is not proactive, always learns after making mistakes, which always cost us on the big stage.
We only won the league last year because of Zlatan, and not this manager, sorry but he is not good enough for Milan.

Why do you think Nocerino cost 500k? Or why inter happy loaned us Muntari for free? Or why guys like Mesbah or Emanuelson cost so little money? Do you think these guys are Milan quality players? The only reason they're here is because they were cheap.

This team has only two world class players. Thiago Silva and Ibrahimovic. Some very good ones: Abbiati, Mexes, Aquilani, Boateng, Cassano, and Pato of the previous seasons. And experienced (previously world class) veterans Nesta, Ambrosini, Van Bommel, Gattuso, and Seedorf.

The rest are just not fit to start for a club like Milan.

Now the veterans have lost their legs and shouldn't feature much if at all. Mexes, Aquilani, Boateng, Cassano, and Pato all have been injured much more than they've been fit this season. This means the only Milan worthy players who have been consistently available for Allegri this season are: Abbiati, Thiago Silva, and Ibrahimovic.

And even Thiago Silva has missed the most important part of the season. So how do you expect a coach to win with those conditions? He has to play the Nocerinos, Antoninis, and the Muntaris. The fact that he's competed for a whole season with that level of players shows his quality as a coach. These guys are mid-table level. Milan is 3 points off the top.

 

[fredrik9]

Gazzetta today

 

[Dark Knight]

Why do you think Nocerino cost 500k? Or why inter happy loaned us Muntari for free? Or why guys like Mesbah or Emanuelson cost so little money? Do you think these guys are Milan quality players? The only reason they're here is because they were cheap.

This team has only two world class players. Thiago Silva and Ibrahimovic. Some very good ones: Abbiati, Mexes, Aquilani, Boateng, Cassano, and Pato of the previous seasons. And experienced (previously world class) veterans Nesta, Ambrosini, Van Bommel, Gattuso, and Seedorf.

The rest are just not fit to start for a club like Milan.

Now the veterans have lost their legs and shouldn't feature much if at all. Mexes, Aquilani, Boateng, Cassano, and Pato all have been injured much more than they've been fit this season. This means the only Milan worthy players who have been consistently available for Allegri this season are: Abbiati, Thiago Silva, and Ibrahimovic.

And even Thiago Silva has missed the most important part of the season. So how do you expect a coach to win with those conditions? He has to play the Nocerinos, Antoninis, and the Muntaris. The fact that he's competed for a whole season with that level of players shows his quality as a coach. These guys are mid-table level. Milan is 3 points off the top.

Not a dig at allegri, well actually it kind of is, but if he gets credit for getting "more" out of players like nocerino etc.. shouldnt he get the blame for not getting anything out of pato?

And if the veterans aren't milan worthy then i guess people would forgive him if he gave youngsters a chance so actually we develop them for future seasons, btu he doesn't do that much. he would rather have ibra and silva die on the pitch then take them off and give others a chance in last 30ish minutes. And Mexes as 3rd choice centreback is not worldclass?

Short and sweet version of all this is that if you get credit for winning you sure as hell get the blame for losing, that goes for the players, the manager and the management.

 

[IKE]

Gazzetta today

can someone translate this in english ?

 

[Sequiem]

can someone translate this in english ?

Barbara has dumped Pato for Capello. Galliani immediately left to discuss things with PSG.

 

[naive_harry]

Not a dig at allegri, well actually it kind of is, but if he gets credit for getting "more" out of players like nocerino etc.. shouldnt he get the blame for not getting anything out of pato?

And if the veterans aren't milan worthy then i guess people would forgive him if he gave youngsters a chance so actually we develop them for future seasons, btu he doesn't do that much. he would rather have ibra and silva die on the pitch then take them off and give others a chance in last 30ish minutes. And Mexes as 3rd choice centreback is not worldclass?

Short and sweet version of all this is that if you get credit for winning you sure as hell get the blame for losing, that goes for the players, the manager and the management.

well put

 

[Kasoka]

I think Allegri will get a offer from Inter if he's sacked and available. It was said Moratti made him already an offer before he renewed his contract. And if he accepts, he will humiliate Galliani and Berlusconi.

 

[Fiero]

Not a dig at allegri, well actually it kind of is, but if he gets credit for getting "more" out of players like nocerino etc.. shouldnt he get the blame for not getting anything out of pato?

He did make the best version of Pato so far. Last season, when he benched his ass to motivate him. He became hungry and motivated, and proved his worth. The Pato that showed up vs Napoli, the one that came off the bench to win us vital points away to Chievo, the one who won us the scudetto derby. That was all Allegri.

But Pato's case is an extremely complicated one. Injuries haven't given him a chance to properly find his rhythm, and it seems he lost a lot of confidence. Plus his relationship with Barbara and the favoritism shown by Berlusconi add a whole new dimension to the matter.

And if the veterans aren't milan worthy then i guess people would forgive him if he gave youngsters a chance so actually we develop them for future seasons, btu he doesn't do that much. he would rather have ibra and silva die on the pitch then take them off and give others a chance in last 30ish minutes. And Mexes as 3rd choice centreback is not worldclass?

Nesta, Van Bommel, and Ambrosini could still contribute. They just don't have the legs to do it consistently. Gattuso is finished because his game required so much running and aggressiveness that his body just can't do anymore especially after 2 long lay-offs in the past couple of years.

Ibra and Silva should play all the minutes as long as they're fit. And, what youngsters?

Mexes as a player isn't world class. He is very good, and I like him, but I'm sorry he's not world class. That doesn't mean he can't be a starter.

Short and sweet version of all this is that if you get credit for winning you sure as hell get the blame for losing, that goes for the players, the manager and the management.

Incredibly shortsighted. Results can't be used as the only measure for judgment. Otherwise, this would be a game of statistics.

 

[luke07]

Not a dig at allegri, well actually it kind of is, but if he gets credit for getting "more" out of players like nocerino etc.. shouldnt he get the blame for not getting anything out of pato?

And if the veterans aren't milan worthy then i guess people would forgive him if he gave youngsters a chance so actually we develop them for future seasons, btu he doesn't do that much. he would rather have ibra and silva die on the pitch then take them off and give others a chance in last 30ish minutes. And Mexes as 3rd choice centreback is not worldclass?

Short and sweet version of all this is that if you get credit for winning you sure as hell get the blame for losing, that goes for the players, the manager and the management.

the management at most obviously

they keep shitty leech like seedorf + failed medical team + shitty fitness coach

how bout pato being useless when he play, and useless too cause he always injury?

 

[Jawad]

good to know that not only Allegri fanboys are are in this forum, now people becoming to notice what i have noticed from the begining of the season which that allegri sucks big time.

anyhow, all italian news today are linking us to the likes of capello, Spalletti which is something that just makes my day

 

[Dark Knight]

He did make the best version of Pato so far. Last season, when he benched his ass to motivate him. He became hungry and motivated, and proved his worth. The Pato that showed up vs Napoli, the one that came off the bench to win us vital points away to Chievo, the one who won us the scudetto derby. That was all Allegri.

So pato now is better than pato under leo or ancelotti? wow! I mean i dont care about how compluicated his case is i m just pointing out if he gets the accolades for getting most out of nocerinos of this world then he should be the one to get the atleast part of the blame for pato's fall in form. Otherwise if yous ay no its all pato's fault then well the counter-argument is its all nocerino's hardwork which makes him better and even you could have done what allegri did.

Nesta, Van Bommel, and Ambrosini could still contribute. They just don't have the legs to do it consistently. Gattuso is finished because his game required so much running and aggressiveness that his body just can't do anymore especially after 2 long lay-offs in the past couple of years.

gattuso and ambro cant contribute jack shit and I love gattuso. next season wee will also find out that cassano is done and dusted too although i like him too. But gattuso and ambro are both getting extensions allegri should veto it. I mean if he is to be the fall guy then why not speak up for what he wants.

Ibra and Silva should play all the minutes as long as they're fit. And, what youngsters?

No they shouldnt, remember last year ibra running out of steam and this year silva getting injured becaus he kept playing the stupid copa match. you have got to rest players during the match if we are 2 or more goalsi nfront, specially when you know you cant replace them with similar quality if they are fatigued. As for youth, if they dont get to play you never know how good they are.

Mexes as a player isn't world class. He is very good, and I like him, but I'm sorry he's not world class. That doesn't mean he can't be a starter.

name two 3rd choice centrebacks better than mexes? as a 3rd choice cb he is world class, thats what i said.

Incredibly shortsighted. Results can't be used as the only measure for judgment. Otherwise, this would be a game of statistics.

well as i mentioned before thats all you can go on almost. You cant give him credit for winning a weak league which we were sure shot favourites for and then no blame for losing a league which we were again favs for winning. If you dont go by results then what are you going on? The beautiful brand of football that is played by Milan? The passing and movement brand we are exporting these days or the great youth development happening in Milan?

 

[benjamin]

I thank him for everything, regardless he stays or not. Injuries and ******ed referees hurt us. It was never Max Allegri

 

[Clarence]

/..next season wee will also find out that cassano is done and dusted too../

I like your views, but what makes you think Cassano is done for?

I thank him for everything, regardless he stays or not. Injuries and ******ed referees hurt us. It was never Max Allegri

Blaming referees and injuries is naive. The referees do the best they can and have been poor in many matches, not only towards Milan. (This is something FIGC or AIA should look into of course.) Had Allegri rested and rotated the squad when all were fully fit, he wouldn't be in this mess.

You should thank Zlatan for the Scudetto last year. It was never because of Allegri.

 

[benjamin]

I like your views, but what makes you think Cassano is done for?



Blaming referees and injuries is naive. The referees do the best they can and have been poor in many matches, not only towards Milan. (This is something FIGC or AIA should look into of course.) Had Allegri rested and rotated the squad when all were fully fit, he wouldn't be in this mess.

You should thank Zlatan for the Scudetto last year. It was never because of Allegri.

you know refs have been poor against Milan, and we still can blame them? Injuries ripped us of T33, KPB and Cassano for crucial periods of the campaign, and you think that wouldnt play a crucial part in the title race?

joke

 

[Dottore Joey]

Referees have been incredibly poor all around the world this season.