Week 35: Siena (1) vs (4) AC Milan - 29/4/2012

[Sage]

just looked at the table, siena are 10th?? WTF??? since when??

 

[forward]

Watch out, Ibra is on a 4 game "not a single shit given" streak.

Allegri will never ever sub him off, until Ibra slaps someone.

 

[acm55]

win

 

[Moggster]

Allegri NOT starting Ibra? It is to laugh.

Even though we seem to play a more attractive brand of football without Ibra, having a player that can decide the season on your team is pretty useful

He's unmotivated, he sucks when he's like that. He'll only fire up if Juve draws/loses to Novara-Lecce-Cagliari.

 

[Tony]

All Milan can do is make sure they win the remaining 4 fixtures and hope that Juve will slip up.

Unfortunately it out of our hands and as much as i want us to win the title, its looking like Juve will do it.

I hope Allegri stays as hes done well with what he has available to him.

 

[Sod-Lod]

MilanDiavolo News ‏ @MilanDiavolo
#SienaVSMilan: Abate, Ibrahimovic, Mexes, Seedorf, Yepes and Zambrotta are a booking away from a ban/diffidati.

 

[Milanista_7]

 

[Vecchio Ultra]

are siena players still taking bribes?

Only from Juventus

 

[DugiNesta]

Cassano + Prince + Thiago Silva from the begining.
If these three are healthy we'll win all our games until the end of the season.

 

[Mr. Milanista]

Cassano + Prince + Thiago Silva from the begining.
If these three are healthy we'll win all our games until the end of the season.

Those three + Van Bommel and Ibra is our most importnant players.

 

[superkaka]

Merda to tie 2 games.

 

[Costanza]

I'm just worried about Milan. I'm sure that if you need Boriello to score against the last team, you will draw 2 of the next games.

Pirlo is already getting tired. He can't cope up with Schedule.

If Milan wins the 4 games which is not easy at all we will def. win Scudetto.

 

[kapten]

Maxi deserves to start! But not in the case of benching one of our world class strikers.. Pleaaase Allegri change ur formation...

--------Maxi---------
Cassano-Ibra-Boateng
--Seedorf--MVB-----
Urby-Mexes-Nesta-Abate

 

[Moggster]

Maxi deserves to start! But not in the case of benching one of our world class strikers.. Pleaaase Allegri change ur formation...

--------Maxi---------
Cassano-Ibra-Boateng
--Seedorf--MVB-----
Urby-Mexes-Nesta-Abate

Keep dreaming - he's never gonna change, doesn't matter how shit they play.

Expect this formation for the rest of the season:
--------Ibra-Urby
----------Seedorf
Gattuso-Ambrosini-Nocerino
Antonini-Nesta-Bonera-Abate
----------Abbiati

I'm not even joking.

 

[deepa_316]

Cassano + Prince + Thiago Silva from the begining.
If these three are healthy we'll win all our games until the end of the season.

since silvas injury u can see we're more dependent on him than ibra imo. with cassano back i can see ibra being more motivated as they are amazing together add boa to that trio then its perfect.

 

[Polotelli]

------------------- Abbiati ----------------
- De Sciglio -- Nesta -- Mexes -- Urby -
---- Boateng -- Strasser -- Nocerino ----
--------------- El Shaarawy --------------
---------- Cassano ---- Zlatan -----------

Amelia - Thiago - Antonini - Ambrosini - Muntari - Robinho - Maxi Lopez

 

[GAMilan]

They might as well give some experience to some kids. The scudetto is lost unless Juve decide not to play.

 

[idiavoli]

Maxi deserves to start! But not in the case of benching one of our world class strikers.. Pleaaase Allegri change ur formation...

--------Maxi---------
Cassano-Ibra-Boateng
--Seedorf--MVB-----
Urby-Mexes-Nesta-Abate

Look, guys, I know you're frustrated with our crap performances. But please realize that these changes in formation you're proposing... are ridiculous. Not because 4-2-3-1 or any other formation is inherently bad... but because we don't have the squad for them.

For example, Seedorf + MVB in a double pivot is defensive suicide. You need two mobile players who can cover the width of the box (e.g. Schwein + Gustavo at Bayern Munich). And to have an Italian-quality defense with a 4-2-3-1, you also need defensively strong FBs and a winger willing to track back in defense.

Please stop posting alternative formations. Most won't work. Allegri has devised a system that limits our weaknesses, but he can only cover so much. Don't blame Allegri. Don't blame the formation.

We have a lot of crappy players and injuries.

Just remember this: Nocerino was a MEDIOCRE PLAYER AT PALERMO. He now starts for Milan. This is RIDICULOUS. But Allegri has devised a system that allowed such a mediocre player to score 9 goals (would have been 15 if he could finish better).

 

[Az.]

I used to hate this team so much in the 00`s.Siena is such a stupid annoying mini me jube.

Hope we batter them.Although the reality will probably be some piss poor win

 

[IKE]

Look, guys, I know you're frustrated with our crap performances. But please realize that these changes in formation you're proposing... are ridiculous. Not because 4-2-3-1 or any other formation is inherently bad... but because we don't have the squad for them.

For example, Seedorf + MVB in a double pivot is defensive suicide. You need two mobile players who can cover the width of the box (e.g. Schwein + Gustavo at Bayern Munich). And to have an Italian-quality defense with a 4-2-3-1, you also need defensively strong FBs and a winger willing to track back in defense.

Please stop posting alternative formations. Most won't work. Allegri has devised a system that limits our weaknesses, but he can only cover so much. Don't blame Allegri. Don't blame the formation.

We have a lot of crappy players and injuries.

Just remember this: Nocerino was a MEDIOCRE PLAYER AT PALERMO. He now starts for Milan. This is RIDICULOUS. But Allegri has devised a system that allowed such a mediocre player to score 9 goals (would have been 15 if he could finish better).

In fact 4-2-3-1 formation would probably be quite good. For example next year we could play like this ( cheap solution we bring in diame from wigan, monty from fiora, traore from nancy on free transfer and paloschi back from loan )

----------Paloschi-------

Monty----Ibra---- Boa

---traore - diame -----

Urby-silva-mexes – abate


Again we are talking about cheap solution and we take in consideration ibra stubbornness (“play around me or I don’t play”).
This formation would effectively limit opponents using 3-5-2 formation. Wings in 3-5-2 would think twice when to rush forward, because something goes wrong , their backline of 3 defenders can be overrun with 3 or even 4 our attackers.



3-5-2 or some very similar formation cost us this year a lot of points. Here guilt lies only Alegri and his stubbornness with only one formation 4-3-1-2.
Juve Lazio , udine and Napoli all played 3-5-2 or something very similar and result from 24 possible points we could only manage to get 7. Not even a third of possible.


Wednesdays CL game between real and Bayern . Real fullbacks ( Marcelo mostly ) are usually storming against opponents defense, but in that game they we quite reserved, to be honest Bayerns alaba was going much forward thea real Marcelo or arbeloea. Reason for that is because on the other side were ribery and robben Yeah sure if we use formation mentioned above our winger which would more right and left attacking midfield than wingers aren’t on roben / ribery level but they could still help defensively but also present quite big threat for opponents defense.



But I agree, for 4-2-3-1 players in CDM must be workhorses who can run around in also tackle, so players which we don’t have our team (they are here but ages caught them )



But if we would experiment for siena game with 4-2-3-1m then it could like this:


-------------maxi----------------

----SES----Ibra---- Boa-------

---muntari ------- straser -----

Urby – silva – nesta – abate


...

 

[RossoneroTifoso]

-----------Abbiati---------
-Abate-Silva-Nesta-Urby-
----Muntari-Ambrosini----
Cassano-Prince-Shaarawy
--------Ibrahimovic--------

 

[acm55]

-----------Abbiati---------
-Abate-Silva-Nesta-Urby-
----Muntari-Ambrosini----
Cassano-Prince-Shaarawy
--------Ibrahimovic--------

Like!

 

[fredrik9]

@MilanDiavolo

MILANELLO-TRAININGS: Thiago Silva, Boateng and Ambrosini trained normally with the group. Zlatan trained in the Gym.

 

[milanpalermo23]

we pretty much ended the game with a 4-2-3-1 vs bologna, but allegro pretty much threw all of the attackers on and idk if he really had those tactics sorted.

would be cool to try it for a game or even a half, but we all know allegri won't change...

last game we ended like this if I remember correctly:

-----------------Maxi
------Cassano--Ibra--Prince
----------Muntari--Nocerino
Emanuelson--Yepes--Nesta--Abate
----------------Abbiati

 

[stefano1991]

-----------Abbiati---------
-Abate-Silva-Nesta-Urby-
----Muntari-Ambrosini----
Cassano-Prince-Shaarawy
--------Ibrahimovic--------

Allegri will never play a formation like that, even more so if we are away from home...

Most likely be

---------Abbiati---------
-Abate-Silva-Nesta---Antonini-
----Van Bommel/Ambrosini----
--Nocerino------Muntari/Urby
---------KP Boateng--------
---Ibrahimovic-----Cassano/Robinho--

Bench:Amelia, Bonera/Yepes, Mesbah, Gattuso/Ambro, Seedorf, Maxi, who ever doesnt play out of Robinho or Cassano/El Sharaawy

Allegri will keep it disciplined untill the scuddetto is definately out of reach, expect the last couple of games against Atalanta/Novara and even Inter for him to experiment with a new formation and dropping certain players....

 

[Zeusftw]

Wow allegri needs to play dis formation, change ur squad plz dumb ass

--------amelia - abbiati----------
--------------roma-----------------
-robinho - lopez - pato----------
ibra - antonini - ambrosini - ses92


dis is a squad with alot of passion, good height in the air, can stop goals and score from the midfield and on the wings

 

[NIRossoneri]

I'm just worried about Milan. I'm sure that if you need Boriello to score against the last team, you will draw 2 of the next games.

Pirlo is already getting tired. He can't cope up with Schedule.

If Milan wins the 4 games which is not easy at all we will def. win Scudetto.

Juve are in trouble next year if a 42ish game season is too much for Pirlo.

 

[RossoneroTifoso]

Allegri will never play a formation like that, even more so if we are away from home...

Most likely be

---------Abbiati---------
-Abate-Silva-Nesta---Antonini-
----Van Bommel/Ambrosini----
--Nocerino------Muntari/Urby
---------KP Boateng--------
---Ibrahimovic-----Cassano/Robinho--

Bench:Amelia, Bonera/Yepes, Mesbah, Gattuso/Ambro, Seedorf, Maxi, who ever doesnt play out of Robinho or Cassano/El Sharaawy

Allegri will keep it disciplined untill the scuddetto is definately out of reach, expect the last couple of games against Atalanta/Novara and even Inter for him to experiment with a new formation and dropping certain players....

Just my personal preference... Will probably get the same muscle midfield as the last couple games

 

[idiavoli]

-------------maxi----------------

----SES----Ibra---- Boa-------

---muntari ------- straser -----

Urby – silva – nesta – abate

You don't see the problem? SES is not a winger. Boa is not a winger. We've just made two good attacking options useless. We've also weakened our defense, which now requires two midfielders to do the work of three.

How is that better than what we currently do? Please explain.

-----------Abbiati---------
-Abate-Silva-Nesta-Urby-
----Muntari-Ambrosini----
Cassano-Prince-Shaarawy
--------Ibrahimovic--------

You don't see the problem? SES is not a winger. Ambrosini isn't fit enough to operate in a double pivot. We've also weakened our defense, which now requires two midfielders to do the work of three.

How is that better than what we currently do? Please explain.


...........

Get the hint?
STOP POSTING FORMATIONS. You are nowhere near as intelligent or knowledgeable about football as Allegri.

 

[acm55]

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Ibra, Maxi