The Rumour Commode XXXVI - Mission Accomplished Edition

Zaniolo al Milan?


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Legit the perfect RW player for us (despite his injury...)
He really is, and I hope he recovers, because I hate players losing out due to injury. Chiesa also is the only likable player on Juve, he would have suited our style perfectly. But 60m was too big a gamble.
Juve have already qualified for the CL so are forced to sign Chiesa and Transfermarkt lists the deal going through on July 1.

However, there is another strong, Italian RW with a bum knee (or two) available for cheaper in the capital...
Yeah, I'm aware, unfortunately. My new hope is that Allegri alienates him and he comes here to flourish.

I don't like Zaniolo. I actually thought before his (second) injury, he was a great CAM, but I don't think he has the pace or the mentality to work here as our RW. For 40m, there are better options out there.
 

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I have a good feeling about Origi and or Belotti scoring a boatload of goals and facilitating Leao and the new RW to score, and we won’t need a superstar CF like Osimhen etc. would be great to have one, but like Liverpool I don’t think we really need one.
Agreed but Scamacca is eerily similar to Ibra in both physique (same height) and playing style so signing him could be seen as a passing of the torch if Ibra were to retire. Also, his Serie A goals/assists stats relative to mins played are undeniably excellent plus he's only 23yo, Italian with a clean injury record.

2020/21 - 8 goals/2 assists in 1,349 mins aka 15 full matches
2021/22 - 16 goals/0 assists in 2,060 mins aka 23 full matches

Also, it appears that MMM favour tall, aerially dominant CF's given the Ibra (1.95m), Giroud (1.93m) Pellegri (1.88m) + Lazetic (1.92m) signings so could make a move providing that Sassuolo don't ask for the moon or are open to an onerous loan with option/obligation deal (Tonali style).
 

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I want these hold-up plays, receiving the ball in the deep, quick vertical and lateral passing, aerial ability, shooting technique. Maldini ples. Secure the dude and let him ‘chill’ in our last game.

He's an excellent young player no doubt, however, I don't know if his price tag plus Origi's imminent arrival make him a realistic signing...
 

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much better than Chiesa? Are you insane? Have you ever watched Chiesa? Dude is a fucking monster
Lets not overrate chiesa. I dont agree with him about comparison with perisic but chiesa profit from lack of italian attackers so spotlight s mostly on him.
This year he has like 2 goals and 1 asist in 12 games before injury. Although i think allegri s not using him properly.

Imo his body s way too fragile for his style of play and injuries ll pile on over time. I think he ll need to adjust his style to avoid injuries.
 

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The only memory I have of Scamacca is the own goal he scored against us, that was hilarious.
 

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Lets not overrate chiesa. I dont agree with him about comparison with perisic but chiesa profit from lack of italian attackers so spotlight s mostly on him.
This year he has like 2 goals and 1 asist in 12 games before injury. Although i think allegri s not using him properly.

Imo his body s way too fragile for his style of play and injuries ll pile on over time. I think he ll need to adjust his style to avoid injuries.
Thats due to Allegri, I mean look at this shit :lol:

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It's incredibly hard to replicate our project (Money-ball style constructed team that wins - pending Scudetto). Because if you dive a bit deeper into it, its part-Moneyball, part-youth rebuild of the team. That's whats so phenomenal about it - not only is Milan recruiting undervalued players, but most of these players are also extremely young. But the scouting and sourcing of these talents is one part, the other is to actually grow and nurture them so that they realise their potential, and thus, the potential of the team. IMO, the second part is infinitely harder than the first.

If Milan win the Scudetto, it took roughly 3 years to get back on top with this model. It has the youngest squad, 4th most valuable squad based on transfer market value, wage structure $50-100M less than rivals, etc. Most compare Milan to Ajax and Dortmund, who have won domestically in modern times, but even with its youthful squads, it would still be top 2 in terms of transfer market value and wages in their respective leagues. Essentially still a big fish in a small pond. What Milan is doing is unprecedented.

I actually don't think that Milan can even replicate what its doing now, one because of the perfect storm of conditions that have led to it operating like this, but two, because this is really just the first horizon for Milan IMO. The second horizon is retention of its core - which means that Milan will eventually go from the youngest team to a team with players in its prime, and possibly an older team as the core ages. How it reinforces the squad will be the interesting part, but hopefully we don't have to worry about that for another 5-10 years haha.

All of this reinforces to me, how special this Milan is. I think they will finish the job, but for whatever reason it cannot, it would still have been one of the most memorable seasons even surpassing some Scudetto years.

The perfect storm is the fact that we have Elliot, we have Maldini, we have Massara, we have Moncada and we have Pioli and Ibra.

Don't think any other club have that sort of talent across the board in identifying in undervalued assets (Moncada), bringing them in successfully (Maldini & Massara), and nurturing them and making them the best versions of themselves that they can be (Pioli and Ibra). Even our club ethos is probably way different to most other clubs, which is why almost every player who has come to us only has good things to say about us.

The fact that we were able to do all of this also coincides with, as unfortunate as it is to say, the global pandemic, which forced all other clubs to examine their business sustainability when revenues were cut significantly and public health was the priority.
Had this not happened, all the clubs that borrow money and invest heavily through debt (ala Merda and Ladri) would still be forcing up prices of players. As would all those Super agents out there. Mediocre players would still be selling for 80M to 120M a piece. Elliot's management of the club, forcing us to reduce debt and lower expenses was always going to be hard to take (especially the not buying good players part) before the pandemic. We would never have been able to make out with the deals that we did for the likes of Mike, Tomori or Tonali. Their original clubs would be asking for exorbitant fees under normal circumstances.

Elliot's self-sustainability mandate saved our asses and led us in the right direction, but lets not kid ourselves. Had there been no pandemic to prove just how sustainable the model is in times of crisis, it would really be business as usual and excessive spending by all the money-rich clubs out there. If Covid had not happened, resetting a lot of revenue streams globally and exposing football clubs for the unsustainable, unhealthy money sinks that they were, forcing clubs like Barca and Madrid to shed players like Messi and Sergio Ramos, it would probably really have taken the 5 years which Maldini & Co had projected for us to get back into top 4 and Champions League contention.

One day, we're going to look back on this period, and realize just how blessed we were despite all the tragedy that was going on.
 

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Don't Genoa go through in case of a 3 way tie? In the 3 way mini table, they've got 7 points by virtue of beating Cagliari twice

So they need to win * Salernitana to lose * Cagliari to draw --> 0.35 * 0.37 * 0.25 = 0.032 .. So that's 3% chance.
Lol shit that’s right!

Hahaha, ok I’ll shut up.m
Edit: wait that can’t work. Cagliari are two points behind Salernitana. A draw won’t make a three way tie.

Nice idea but doesn’t apply. Genoa are out.
 

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Don't Genoa go through in case of a 3 way tie? In the 3 way mini table, they've got 7 points by virtue of beating Cagliari twice

So they need to win * Salernitana to lose * Cagliari to draw --> 0.35 * 0.37 * 0.25 = 0.032 .. So that's 3% chance.

There can't be a three way tie. Genoa are officially relegated.
 

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Signing Berardi + Scamacca could be a repeat of the Helveg + Bierhoff double signings from Udinese which ended up landing us the Scudetto in 1998 :o

In fact, I'm willing to bet that either both players arrive or neither does. Also, we currently only have the 4th best attack in the league whereas Berardi (15 goals/17 assists) and Scamacca (16 goals/0 assists) are tearing it up at midtable Sassuolo who have only scored two goals fewer than us.
 

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That would not have happened if Bakayoko would be warming the bench :D
We had Diaz, Salad, Romagnoli and Bakayoko in the starting line up.

Btw saw the highlights and remembered that Romagnoli scored from a corner. When was the last time we scored from a corner?
This season, i have zero hopes when we get a set piece which is not within shooting range. We need a set piece specialist in the coaching department.
 

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So GDS says that we're interested in bringing back CRISTANTE for 25m...lol yeah right!

Cristante is one of the original snakes and I'll never forgive him for ditching us for Benfica when our midfield was packed with fodder plus Pobega is a much better player.
fuck Cristante, mediocrity and we have better players in the mid.
 

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There can't be a three way tie. Genoa are officially relegated.
Yep, if not they would play at the same time as the Cagliari and Salernitana games.

Genoa are in Serie B 100%
 

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You sound like a closet homo bro.
When the Senatores left a bunch of them were in tears. I could never be even half as manly as say a Seedorf etc. My nig cried when :max: got us kicked out of the CL because he was too much of a n00b charlatan to figure out how to use a team stacked to the gills. Pippo cried on his 300 goal day etc. Some of you guys need to grow up

I agree. Let’s footballers express themselves and get emotional, it’s fine. I dislike Dybala but I respect how much he loved Juventus.

But now if he joined Inter 🤣🤣 then I’d give him the Oscar for what he did yesterday
 

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He had a great game against us last time and COULD be the next big thing...


He was very good vs Inter too at San Siro.
But he was a major disappointment in the 6-1 Napoli defeat.. almost every one in Sassuolo was terrible in that game though.
 

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Leao's case determination got delayed for another few days according to TMW after the hearing.
 

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We had Diaz, Salad, Romagnoli and Bakayoko in the starting line up.

Btw saw the highlights and remembered that Romagnoli scored from a corner. When was the last time we scored from a corner?
This season, i have zero hopes when we get a set piece which is not within shooting range. We need a set piece specialist in the coaching department.
But who exactly can score a header for us? Its not like we're fielding any tall players apart from Giroud/Ibra and maybe Leao and I cant see Fik/Kalulu outjumping anyone
 

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But who exactly can score a header for us? Its not like we're fielding any tall players apart from Giroud/Ibra and maybe Leao and I cant see Fik/Kalulu outjumping anyone
Fik scored a monster header vs Juve last year.. don't think he is that bad.
Messias has been winning lot of defensive headers while defending corners.
Kessie I think wins lots of aerial duels in midfield. It is not like we are very poor in air.
Rebic too is decent in the air.
 

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But who exactly can score a header for us? Its not like we're fielding any tall players apart from Giroud/Ibra and maybe Leao and I cant see Fik/Kalulu outjumping anyone

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Cristiano Ronaldo's Serie A record is broken by Fikayo Tomori against Juventus.
 

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I want these hold-up plays, receiving the ball in the deep, quick vertical and lateral passing, aerial ability, shooting technique. Maldini ples. Secure the dude and let him ‘chill’ in our last game.

Wow this is my first time seeing him playing. The way he plays will fit our system well.

This style is what we expect from Giroud to play (but he doesn't do well) ,and what Ibra has been playing for us ( with better quality).

Maybe this is just one video, but he is not a bad choice for our CF as well.
 
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