The Rumour Commode XXXIX: A Cardinal Sin

[Samaldinho]

Kuwait Investment Fund.

This is the only part of your post that I read, so you're saying that we're going to be spending a lot of money and it's going to be because of the Kuwaitis? January transfer window... Mbappe? Haaland? And Messi?

Bold claim, brk.

I'm really tired of being blamed for opinions I don't actually have. I want you to deal with some conspiracy theories, but you're too nice of a person, so I made them absurd.

 

[Deleted member 35916]

They had mayoral elections this year, and Gerry visited the site the weekend we won the title. It's a huge project north of Milan that's already started being redeveloped with a new metro station linked directly to Milano Centrale and Duomo. They're building new offices, parks, shops, apartments, etc. There's already a space dedicated to sports, which I think they're planning on repurposing as a much bigger stadium and facilities for AC Milan. It's too good of a deal not to go with, especially with San Siro being a dead end. There's a lot of money being pumped into the project already with Hines and the Kuwait Investment Fund. The timing of it is also perfect, by the time the stadium is done (around 2027) the area would have been mostly fully developed, with the hotels etc ready for business. Inter would be stupid not to join us, but I can see RedBird going at it alone. RB already have a relationship with Hines (they're building the largest datacenter in Milan together). Too many things are falling into place for it to just be a distraction.

They don't even have the shape and capacity of the stadium agreed upon and are desperately waiting for the City to make a decision. Building at Sesto would likely mean they'd go at it alone and I doubt they can afford that at this time.

If Sesto was a serious option, they would have announced by now.

 

[ROSSONERI7]

Breaking news: Milan will play 4231 vs Spezia

Reading here before every game, You’d think we are changing formation. I understand The passion for discussing tactics and formation. Having a player of different characteristics in a certain position to carry out a role doesn’t constitute a change of formation.


If Vrankcx gonna play (I can’t wait to see him on the field) he’ll play in his position, in the double Pivot. There’s no way Pioli benches 4 AMs (or players who are considered AMamable) Diaz, Adli, Krunic, CDK to play a DM there.

 

[Omer]

They don't even have the shape and capacity of the stadium agreed upon and are desperately waiting for the City to make a decision. Building at Sesto would likely mean they'd go at it alone and I doubt they can afford that at this time.

If Sesto was a serious option, they would have announced by now.

By now?? Redbird just closed the deal to take over Milan 2 months ago!!

 

[brk]

San Siro on the site for scale. Lots of shops around it, apartments, hotels, green areas, a metro for an 18 minute ride to Duomo. It's a perfect fit.

 

[brk]

That was also before Red Bird took over. Elliott was a transitional ownership, I'm sure they had other priorities to make the club appealing to buyers than focusing on a stadium. I never thought it would be built at the current San Siro site, too much bullshit in politics. It'll probably be built at Sesto.

RedBird has the stadium as its number one priority. They're basically leaving the sporting side to Maldini and focusing entirely on the business side and the stadium, which is where they can add much needed value. They won't wait around for a decision on San Siro. They're taking this option in Sesto with both hands. I'm almost certain of it.

 

[rossonero1]

They don't even have the shape and capacity of the stadium agreed upon and are desperately waiting for the City to make a decision. Building at Sesto would likely mean they'd go at it alone and I doubt they can afford that at this time.

If Sesto was a serious option, they would have announced by now.

I think another thing people are forgetting is Inter's part in all of this. I don't think they're as serious about a new stadium & the fact they're currently broke. They still have to pay back Oaktree, are they going to commit to another 500m they probably don't have to build a new stadium? Unless the club gets sold soon I also think that's what is slowing things down.

In the end I could see Milan going to build the stadium on their own elsewhere which is best for the club.

 

[brk]

They don't even have the shape and capacity of the stadium agreed upon and are desperately waiting for the City to make a decision. Building at Sesto would likely mean they'd go at it alone and I doubt they can afford that at this time.

If Sesto was a serious option, they would have announced by now.

It wouldn't be politically right to announce it until after the public debate. I think that's the move they're planning. Wait until the public debate forces their hand, then have a good excuse as to why AC Milan has decided to build their stadium outside Milan city limits. It's still a big deal to do that, and it will have lots of bad press locally. They need to have a good reason to do that. If they leave before the results of the public debate it won't look good (where i'm sure they're going to be demanding ridiculous things).

The fact that things are silent doesn't mean the wheels aren't in motion. I'm sure there's a lot of negotiating happening behind the scenes, partners getting involved and deals being made. Gerry got some really heavy investors behind him for Milan, with the Yankees and a lot of institutional investors. Everyone was raving about the potential of Milan. They're not really talking about the sporting potential, they've been sold the stadium and all the potential revenue that brings with it. There's no way he sold them on it with the risk of it all being held up by Milan city council.

Afford it? They'll have investors breaking their doors down wanting to be a part of the stadium project. Are you kidding me? Hines would have the value of their hotels and real estate instantly gain in value. It's a huge win for everyone involved.

 

[papaberlu]

I don't know about some Kuwait connection or whatever

But Gerry comes from the NFL world and in the NFL world stadiums are more like the Sesto site

Not the San Siro

 

[rossonero1]

I don't know about some Kuwait connection or whatever

But Gerry comes from the NFL world and in the NFL world stadiums are more like the Sesto site

Not the San Siro

Basically all new NFL stadiums are built outside city limits. People may complain about the commute, but stadiums are always filled on Sundays. It's different when they build new NBA arenas. Those seems to be built in low income areas. The land is probably cheap.

 

[nonsonoqui]

RedBird has the stadium as its number one priority. They're basically leaving the sporting side to Maldini and focusing entirely on the business side and the stadium, which is where they can add much needed value. They won't wait around for a decision on San Siro. They're taking this option in Sesto with both hands. I'm almost certain of it.

This is what I want to believe in. Not my cynical take.

 

[Samaldinho]

I don't know about some Kuwait connection or whatever

But Gerry comes from the NFL world and in the NFL world stadiums are more like the Sesto site

Not the San Siro

Damn, you heard about Brk's claim that Gerry is selling Milan to a Kuwaiti fund that will take over Man City to be a feeder club for Milan, too?

 

[Deleted member 35916]

Afford it? They'll have investors breaking their doors down wanting to be a part of the stadium project. Are you kidding me? Hines would have the value of their hotels and real estate instantly gain in value. It's a huge win for everyone involved.

Yes, that's exactly why they're desperate to build it together with Inter, because they can afford to do it all on their own and the investors are lining up.

 

[Deleted member 35916]

Basically all new NFL stadiums are built outside city limits. People may complain about the commute, but stadiums are always filled on Sundays. It's different when they build new NBA arenas. Those seems to be built in low income areas. The land is probably cheap.

Also, the municipalities put forward funds in many of the NFL stadiums.

 

[rossonero1]

This is what I want to believe in. Not my cynical take.

It'll get done. Gerry won't wait around. He's losing plenty of money if he were to stick around as is at San Siro.

 

[ROSSONERI7]

I hope I'm wrong but I have no faith in CDK ever becoming a functional player for our squad. I know that Tonali and Leao also had rough starts but at least they showed glimpses of what they could become. Every time De Katelaer is on the field I root for him to be somewhat productive, but he never is. He is slow, often out of position, doesn't ever get open, hardly ever wins a dribble or contrast, his passes are usually intercepted or blocked, and his shots on goal so far have been weak.
Add to that his mental weakness, his lack of grinta, and his failure to get back on defense and he's been a total failure.
Could be that I'm too tough on him, that I should be more patient with him, but he cost 35 millions and much more was expected of him. Also worrying the fact that every time he plays his performances get worse and not better. I trust MMM and again hope I'm wrong but I get frustrated every time I see CDK play.

Deep down inside, I feel and always felt similar, not as harsh as “no faith” … but I simply don’t see what some others do.
I do see some talent, that can be grown to become a very good player.

From the minute He became a Milan player, I’ve focused on the positives. I noticed he dribbles a lot better than I thought. I hyped myself up with his versatility. I called him the Kalulu of attack.
Still waiting to add more to my list of positives.

Though, his psychological strength is a bit of a disappointment.

I won’t ever again dismiss a young player. even experienced players need time.
He’s already here, So he’ll need time to settle. 1-2 seasons…if he betters his mindset.

I also trust the management and recruiting department so I hope and think he’ll be fine (even though, it doesn’t mean every transfer will be a success).
So with his age, and management “approval stamp” I keep some hope. Actually decent amount of hope.

Personally, I wouldn’t have spent that amount on him (record for this management, right?) … and probably would not even sign him regardless of price. When I thought & fantasized about our market before the summer, that’s def not the profile I had in mind, neither for AM nor for RW based on our style…
Can he be molded? That’s what it all depends on. Really change, like Tonali.

“we’re already born” as we say where I’m from.

 

[Cloren]

Am really impressed with Juve getting three points in the group & still qualify for EL

 

[rossonero1]

Salvini (Minister of Infrastructure and Sustainable Mobility): "The Municipality of Milan has already wasted too much time in Milan, the clubs and the fans. Choose the new San Siro immediately, or go to Sesto"

 

[jawz10]

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To no ones surprise there's only 1 Milan player on this list

If Leao is sold in the winter, Maldini will have a lot of work to do in order to maintain Scudetto pursuit and avoid falling out of the top 4

What this shows me is that we’re far to Leao dependent. As in, we have no other creative catalyst. This is a Pioli problem, as the we have guys like Diaz, Adli, CDK, Messias… yet our formation and system cater entirely to Leao’s considerable talent. We’re still good enough to compete for Serie A but in order to go to another level we need another way of attacking on the pitch.

 

[Milan10]

I’m holding out hope that our American owners move us to Los Angeles, so I can become a season ticket holder. I think there is great potential here, travel will be rough, though.

 

[papaberlu]

Pobega has certainly earned his status in the squad and deserves to play over someone like Aster

Who can't be trusted yet

clears throat

 

[punisher]

Milan are reportedly going to be watching Jakub Kiwior in the match against Spezia.

This is his girlfriend:








Her trophies include:
Queen of GermanyTwerkCompetition’17
Semi finalist of European TwerkChampions’18

Ok.

"Here we go again"

 

[Wild]

I bet all the folk that continually talk about Kvara bore their mates at the pub talking about that girl that got away that one time as well...

Get the fuck out.
No girl is like Kvara.

 

[ROSSONERI7]

Basically all new NFL stadiums are built outside city limits. People may complain about the commute, but stadiums are always filled on Sundays. It's different when they build new NBA arenas. Those seems to be built in low income areas. The land is probably cheap.

Just the nature of the 2 infrastructures explain that imo.

Basketball arenas a pretty much big buildings that somehow fit in cities with other buildings. A little fatter but still fits.
Enclosed, noise stays in there. max capacity, 20K?

Stadia, would “disrupt” everything, from being eyesores, much greater amount of people in the area due to much higher capacity, And noise due to being mostly opened

To my knowledge, probably Only (not only but, it seems more common there) London has stadia in congested areas. They got a 1000 teams.

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

Get the fuck out.
No girl is like Kvara.

If you like guys that's cool... My comment could be gender neutral with a little word tweaking

 

[Wild]

If you like guys that's cool... My comment could be gender neutral with a little word tweaking

Of course i like guys.
Am a guy.
Do you not like guys ?
Why you hate yourself ?

 

[Balo45]

I think it’s very naive to think Gerry wouldn’t have done his diligence looking into possible roadblocks with the stadium before buying the club. Am I saying I know what will happen, or that it’s not difficult to get these things done in Italy? No of course not. But seriously, if you think a guy who has a strong background in this bought a club and spent all this time looking for partners and investors is just gonna walk in and say “ah shit turns out it’s hard to get a stadium in Italy.”

Think about how stupid that sounds, especially from any of us who are infinitely less qualified and also just don’t know the background conversations. He will have done his homework and not gone in blind, that’s insanity to even suggest that, think for one minute. Inter being broke? Definitely plays a part but inter has had this problem for multiple seasons, Gerry knew they weren’t reliable.

Scaroni is brutally honest in interviews and always said the stadium would be where ever it’s accepted first.

 

[Congo Powers]

Milan are reportedly going to be watching Jakub Kiwior in the match against Spezia.

This is his girlfriend:








Her trophies include:
Queen of GermanyTwerkCompetition’17
Semi finalist of European TwerkChampions’18

 

[brk]

Damn, you heard about Brk's claim that Gerry is selling Milan to a Kuwaiti fund that will take over Man City to be a feeder club for Milan, too?

Have you seen the assets under management of the KIA?!

 

[Caladan]

Milan are reportedly going to be watching Jakub Kiwior in the match against Spezia.

This is his girlfriend:








Her trophies include:
Queen of GermanyTwerkCompetition’17
Semi finalist of European TwerkChampions’18

Good Polish Twerk.