The Rumour Commode XLI: Ragnarok

[ACM14061988]

In other news in 2010 Maldini was the one that persuaded Galliani to sign Constant.

Well Galliani did not listened to this advice for two years then

 

[Raghav]

Pobega was for the UCL list more than anything.
We don't have 4 starting quality Italian trained and 4 starting quality Milan-trained players.

He was there that ticked all the boxes and an extra body, just in case anything happened to Sandro or Ismael.

At the end of the day, we are only allowed to bring in 17 foreigners into the UCL squad. If Kamada, Thuram, N'Dicka or whoever comes in, someone else gets kicked off the list.

We have plenty of fodder who were part of the list who will be gone now .

It’s better to have a smaller squad of players who can contribute regularly than many fodders just to make up the numbers imo. A 10-15 mil offer for him would have been good business. There’s plenty of our hatched sperm floating around who are cheap and able bodied to provide back up we could’ve gone for some one else.

 

[cartman]

Well Galliani did not listened to this advice for two years then

Well Galliani did not listened to this advice for two years then

He was waiting for a free transfer

 

[ForzaSandro]

Adli and CDK will be very good players, but not in Milan. Bald shitter doesn't know how to use them.

He is playing with defansive attacking mdf

You can blame Pioli all you want on Adil but CDK I'm afraid is on his own. I don't remember any player in the past 5 years who has been defended time and time again by the club. He has been given multiple opportunities too. The boy first needs to be joyful then football will flow. Can't walk about looking despondent and wonder why things go pear shape.

 

[Alo88]

Okafor is another dude that hasn't scored double digit goals....in the mighty Austrian Bubdesliga, playing for a club that's lost 3 games in the last 2 seasons. I'm not sure what the data analytics say on him, but it better be exceptional because the stats surely aren't.

I guess the data says the player is young and expected to go through some up and downs. He was ready to leave last summer with many teams interested, ours included, but in the end the price asked from Salzburg was deemed to high, rightfully (~30M, cough Charles cough). And then he went through a lot of injuries too iirc.

Data probably also says that due to a suboptimal season and the asking price plummeting to 20M with probably some millions to reduce in negotiations, his profile becomes interesting in terms of potential-vs-cost-ratio.

I can see Moncada being pretty high about such data

 

[Milan10]

Something I think we will get back to and the one big plus is focusing on player profiles. I think this is one thing Maldini moved away from slightly, an example would be moving the budget from botman to CDK who aren’t similar.

We used to find a list of similar players, set limits and move on if a club wouldn’t budge. How many defenders did we miss on before landing Tomori? I think Moncada will go back to that. If we don’t get Thuram or whoever, I think at least a similar player will come.

Which means if these are the guys they want, athletic whatever, we can expect the team to be faster and stronger next season. I hope.

I don’t disagree, but in the case of Botman we moved on to a cheaper alternative in Thiaw, who I think proved to be very bit as good as Botman, especially because it’s not like Thiaw was surrounded by high performers… Thiaw walked into a defense that looked like ******s trying to fuck a doorknob and did an amazing job (remember Kalulu committing a red card slide on Thiaw lol).

^ so, in this case they stuck to that formula and it worked.

Oddly, they didn’t do that with CDK. Someone on the management team was so convinced with CDK that they decided to go substantially over their offer and what we can assume they tagged his value at.

That was a case where we should have walked away and used that 35M elsewhere.

 

[Omer]

Lol Pobega played just 153 mins in the CL...big fucking deal!

Anyway, a smart person would've just cashed in for 15m last summer (strike whilst the irons hot) instead of giving him a full season to prove he's NOT Milan quality.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if RedBird decide to sell him this summer as he's on the fringes of the first team and would register a 100% capital gain. It's very tempting and then you'll see how they navigate around those stupid lists.

How do you navigate the CL list if you can only have 17 non serie A players and of the remaining 8, four of them have to be Milan trained. And for the 153 CL minutes, if you play a primavera player, get knocked out and don't reach the Semis. How much is that going to cost?

Did Torino, or any mid table side even offer 15 mil for Pobega?? How often does Torino offer 15 mil for any player? This isn't EPL!

Look I don't think Pobega is amazing, but isn't Pioli supposed to have a bigger role in the new transfer management?? And Pioli likes him more than Adli and Vranckx. So if he wasn't sold before, and now Pioli has more say after they fired Maldini then how is that going to work out?!!

Look I think Moncada could maybe do a better job than Maldini. I like Moncada. But at least make some sensible criticisms about the previous sporting management like getting Origi or not getting Dybala. Just throwing out all sorts of crap just makes the argument weaker!

 

[Wild]

Thuram is a must.
He is quality & for free.
Moncada probably wanted him & Ndicka but Maldini didnt.
Hopefully Moncada isnt too late.

 

[Balo45]

Yeah after the dirty laundry has been aired

A very confusing season is starting to make sense

As a pioneer of Pioliout I'm starting to have some sympathy if this was truly the case and BELIEVE ME, I really do HATE myself for it

Even the biggest Pioli haters would probably agree that coming off scudetto Pioli probably deserved more say on at the type of players coming in.

Regardless of how good the players we got last summer ended up, I didn’t like how we kinda just snooped around for what was available. Maldini was a little Galliani esque in that regard. CDK or Botman? Enzo or Renato? Thiaw or Ndicka? CDK(again) vs Dybala? I know it was a limited budget but our targets were all over the place.

We used to be very good about saying “we want this type of player” and we would get that. Even if our first target wasn’t available, and hell even if the player we signed sucked(Ballo Toure is the clearest case of this). But you could see what the idea was.

So again, even though I think Maldini didn’t deserve to be fired after one bad season, I can see where the direction changed some. I expect the analytics dorks to get back to that OG direction we were staying in, and I expect the team to look more like Pioliball we knew before. Faster and more direct. If we can look like lockdown Milan again that would be amazing.

 

[joyrider]

very rascist

tribunal in the hague should step in, if true

 

[Neruda2.0]

Looks like ManUtd and Chelsea offer 60m for Maignan.
And from what I read, is that Maignan is considering leaving

they can double that amount and ill consider

 

[Massaro94]

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

stallions only

Obvs

 

[Pigeon]

Interesting.

Quick question: do you think Ancelotti underachieved with the Milan he coached?

I have been reading your posts lately, and I’d just like to say…don’t worry. It will be alright.

But what about facebook groups? What are they saying?

man you're on a roll today

 

[Gennaro8]

If we go for N'dicka we have to sale one of our defenders. Gabbia or Kjaer. Maybe Tomori for big amount?

If have to sell on of our starters, let it be Tomori. And not anyone else

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

Messias is probably gone but what a amazing story he has. Starting his career like a 24 years of age in Serie D and ending up winning scudetto at Milan and scoring against Atletico in UCL.

Time to live his dreams elsewhere, with thanks and love.

Thanks but goodbye kid, you've got some fucking stories to tell the grandkids for sure!

 

[Wild]

Thuram is as fast as Rebic if am not mistaken with much longer strides.

 

[Deleted member 24225]

Bakayoko, wtf is he still doing in Milano time to ship him somewhere else

 

[Neo'82]

 

[Milan10]

Bakayoko, wtf is he still doing in Milano time to ship him somewhere else

Lmbo look at the white girls flocking to him and the car.

Sluts, man

 

[Nevermore]

Bakayoko, wtf is he still doing in Milano time to ship him somewhere else

I blame Maldini for this

 

[pippofan]

Mike Maignan is the best goalkeeper in the world.

He also has a slightly concerning recent injury history, and there is a chance that we may lose him for free at the end of his contract.

My question is - do we sell high now and reinvest those funds in the squad - or do we hold onto him?

Chelsea seems to be the interested party - which may open up a door to Casadei as well.

Interested to hear your thoughts on this, I have views either way.


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Casadei is a great prospect. I would think about it if they add 50 millions.

 

[Pigeon]

Bakayoko, wtf is he still doing in Milano time to ship him somewhere else

he will go to prison if he can stay in milano in return

 

[ibelongtomilan]

Thuram is a must.
He is quality & for free.
Moncada probably wanted him & Ndicka but Maldini didnt.
Hopefully Moncada isnt too late.

Yeah Moncada is second coming of Jesus for finding players I could scout myself in my FM save.

 

[pippofan]

Interesting.

Quick question: do you think Ancelotti underachieved with the Milan he coached?

Yes, he should have won more scudetti. We'd be at 24/25 now with the squads we had.

 

[Wild]

Suma says up until last summer the Milan purchases were made as a collective

Once Maldini got the autonomy he wanted he went at it alone which shows in the last market

Kinda gross that the club is shitting on Maldini but they clearly want a certain message out

No need to report it , it obvious.
Mercato went south when Maldini took full power.
He climbed up a tree & didnt accept to climb down.
Its really a shame because him heading a board will always result in better decision making mechanism & no one will deny him the credit.

 

[papaberlu]

Even the biggest Pioli haters would probably agree that coming off scudetto Pioli probably deserved more say on at the type of players coming in.

Regardless of how good the players we got last summer ended up, I didn’t like how we kinda just snooped around for what was available. Maldini was a little Galliani esque in that regard. CDK or Botman? Enzo or Renato? Thiaw or Ndicka? CDK(again) vs Dybala? I know it was a limited budget but our targets were all over the place.

We used to be very good about saying “we want this type of player” and we would get that. Even if our first target wasn’t available, and hell even if the player we signed sucked(Ballo Toure is the clearest case of this). But you could see what the idea was.

So again, even though I think Maldini didn’t deserve to be fired after one bad season, I can see where the direction changed some. I expect the analytics dorks to get back to that OG direction we were staying in, and I expect the team to look more like Pioliball we knew before. Faster and more direct. If we can look like lockdown Milan again that would be amazing.

Agree. By the sounds of Pioli had input before the last mercato. It turns out Gazidis was the glue holding it all together

I've been visibly frustrated with this season just because of how confusing it was from top to bottom

And all these leaks and stuff offer so much clarity because the shift from what has made this club successful has been so drastic over the past season

 

[Tantalis]

Obvs

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[Wild]

Yeah Moncada is second coming of Jesus for finding players I could scout myself in my FM save.

What are you on about ?
Moncada is world class in his job.
Go read what other fans think of him.

 

[Wild]

Interesting.

Quick question: do you think Ancelotti underachieved with the Milan he coached?