The Rumour Commode XLII: An Homage to Bunga

[Neruda]

Better to have more league points than any other team, giving you the Scudetto at the end!

Its not always the best team that wins the league. But ur free to think like that

 

[bigboss1963]

And people here say Pioli is useless

Not gonna lie I wanted Singo here. If he isn't coming we will have problems on that side as Cala and Florenzi simply won't cut it..

 

[Samaldinho]

Again, we can’t seem to come to an understanding between the difference in playing bottom and top half sides in Italy. Pioli didn’t have a team full of creative midfielders to break down teams AND he didn’t have a defensive midfielder to allow his team to push forward the way we have in the past.

Nevertheless, Milan created and failed to finish the most “huge chances” in Italy last season. You have to finish the few chances you get against relegation sides, if you don’t they tend to retreat even more. If you do, they come out and you can attack, but our attacking options were so limited last season, especially with Leao, Giroud, and Theo playing in the World Cup…

For the record, this is a put up or shut up year for Pioli, or put another way if he doesn’t deliver with the squad he has been given- this should be his last season as our manager. We may go into the season with less than ideal CF and DM options, but overall the squad has been dramatically upgraded and he has the type of players that he wanted at his disposal. So, he reaches the goals set for him or he loses his job.

I think at a minimum he needs to compete for the Scudetto AND reach the CL QF. I’m not sure what RB is expecting, but Cardinale seems serious about wanting to win, not just generate cash.

I don’t understand how anyone can look at what Pioli has done over his tenure and not be satisfied. We are back in the CL consistently, we reached a CL SF for the first time since 2007 (I was a Senior in High School), we won the Scudetto for the first time since 2011. One bad season that still included a CL SF with an extremely limited squad shouldn’t cost the man his job.

And Maldini shouldn’t have been fired either, except that he didn’t want to work under the new ownership’s rules. @General god rest his soul said that the second he was fired and he was right. It is what it is. Maldini didn’t want to work the way the owners wanted him to work and so he went.

We can't come to an understanding, my dear friend, because your excuses for Pioli fucking up against Spezia are unacceptable. He had players he refused to use, I don't want to hear excuses for him. I just don't. Sarri with Lazio did better than him, it's absurd at this point.

Like, he keeps getting this "no DM!!!" excuse... he's now in control of transfers with FM, so why wasn't that priority number one? Is Musah his DM?

Mind you, I used to be one of Pioli's biggest fans, so my disgust with Pioli is sincere, not some contrivance.

 

[AC Kid]

Real Madrid and Manchester City aside, lets do a player by player comparison with Bayern, PSG, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal. I genuinely don’t feel inferior to those teams anymore. Maybe they have better coaches, but as far as players concerned, we are no longer below them. I’m serious.

Could somebody please help with the starting lineups for the team I mentioned?! Grazie

 

[Samaldinho]

So he didn't have a lack of quality in the squad and also got similar points to all the other high quality squads except for Napoli... So he did as expected then over the course of the season from a decent quality squad? Not exceptionally well but not a failure either?

I'd rather have Nagelsmann as the coach but over the last few seasons Pioli is getting similar level of points as coaches of Juve, Inter, and Napoli...

A subset of matches against a subset of teams won't give you as much overall info as the total number of points at the end of the season from all the matches in the season.

I think he performed below his expectations, to be honest.

His 2023 form points to a downward trend, a rather sharp decline.

That subset of matches would be indicative of what the issues are. If you are throwing away your easier sources of points, then you are, by definition, performing below your expectations.

 

[nonsonoqui]

Romano: Chuk is the type of transfer that a team the calibre of Real Madrid makes. It’s a coup for Milan and Serie A.

 

[Az.]

 

[Milan10]

Romano: Chuk is the type of transfer that a team the calibre of Real Madrid makes. It’s a coup for Milan and Serie A.

I’m so excited, bro

Leao, Chuk, Pulisic, Okafor, and Giroud is a massive upgrade over what we’ve had the last few years. Best attacking talent since Ibra’s first stint here easily.

It remains to be seen how effective we will be in breaking bunkered teams down, but it stands to reason that having a competent right side SHOUlD really help.

 

[papaberlu]

Romano: Chuk is the type of transfer that a team the calibre of Real Madrid makes. It’s a coup for Milan and Serie A.

Why is he speaking so positively about Milan I'm worried

 

[Neruda]

Idk how pulisic will fit in that team.
Imo chuk> puli

 

[papaberlu]

btw big fan of Samardzic's talent but I don't think he fits this new team sadly

Milan tried for him before and he decided to join Udinese

just sucks to see a player I like join Inter

 

[Wild]

Why is he speaking so positively about Milan I'm worried

Because he has common sense.
Its obvious this mercato is ours & the season is for Pioli to loose.

 

[rossonero23]

Real Madrid and Manchester City aside, lets do a player by player comparison with Bayern, PSG, Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal. I genuinely don’t feel inferior to those teams anymore. Maybe they have better coaches, but as far as players concerned, we are no longer below them. I’m serious.

Could somebody please help with the starting lineups for the team I mentioned?! Grazie

Psg have vitinha.

 

[Milan10]

One thing I have to give credit to Furlani on… Assembling the majority of the squad well in advance of the season beginning. The only player likely to be in the starting XI on opening day that isn’t with the team is Chuk…

When we travel back to Italy, we will have basically 3 weeks to practice and a couple of friendlies. We may not hit the ground running, but it shouldn’t take 2 months to find our footing.

 

[nonsonoqui]

I’m so excited, bro

Leao, Chuk, Pulisic, Okafor, and Giroud is a massive upgrade over what we’ve had the last few years. Best attacking talent since Ibra’s first stint here easily.

It remains to be seen how effective we will be in breaking bunkered teams down, but it stands to reason that having a competent right side SHOUlD really help.

I, too, am excited.

What I ponder sporadically this summer is how wide we have cast our net. In doing so, we are bound to have some duds or teething problems. With all the new additions, some will underwhelm. The question is have we taken enough of the right gambles to make us competitive for the second star.

Also, let’s say, 4 signings work out. Who will they be? Will that be enough? I think the following players will do really well for us: Pulisic, Chuk, Reijnders, and Okafor. I think RLC will do well only if Pioli deploys him properly, where he excels. Assuming we sign him, Musah may take a while to adjust.

The question is if half our bet pays off, will that be enough for the Scudetto? I’d like to think, yes.

 

[Oedipus]

Lmao. Inter lost their best guys in every line of play (brozo and barella is toss up) and people are weeping

 

[AC Kid]

Psg have vitinha.

So?

 

[Samaldinho]

 

[rossonero23]

So?

He's better than all of our mids. Hachimi as well
Does Mbappe count??

 

[papaberlu]

I’m so excited, bro

Leao, Chuk, Pulisic, Okafor, and Giroud is a massive upgrade over what we’ve had the last few years. Best attacking talent since Ibra’s first stint here easily.

It remains to be seen how effective we will be in breaking bunkered teams down, but it stands to reason that having a competent right side SHOUlD really help.

The attacking quality has increased tremendously but I still worry about the CF situation

I know Giroud is a fan favorite but he is not the answer. In build-up he offers nothing and there are limitations he has seen just as recently as when Deers played that pass vs Juve. I'm praying Okafor can have a Rebic-like transformation and slot in at CF because that would the ceiling of this team by a significant amount

 

[Milan10]

I, too, am excited.

What I ponder sporadically this summer is how wide we have cast our net. In doing so, we are bound to have some duds or teething problems. With all the new additions, some will underwhelm. The question is have we taken enough of the right gambles to make us competitive for the second star.

Also, let’s say, 4 signings work out. Who will they be? Will that be enough? I think the following players will do really well for us: Pulisic, Chuk, Reijnders, and Okafor. I think RLC will do well only if Pioli deploys him properly, where he excels. Assuming we sign him, Musah may take a while to adjust.

The question is if half our bet pays off, will that be enough for the Scudetto? I’d like to think, yes.

I think the biggest determining factor in regard to our Scudetto challenge is actually the area we have invested almost nothing: The defense.

I think our midfield is better by virtue of the switch to a 433 and the numbers we’ve added. And I think our attack is obviously substantially upgraded.

For me it’s:
1) Can our midfield control matches and help defensively? Last season it looked like a turnstile even with wonderboi Tonali.

2) Can our defense reach a level similar to our Scudetto campaign? For that to happen, we need help from the midfield, Tomori and Kalulu need to find themselves, and Thiaw needs to prove to be the truth.

I agree we shouldn’t expect every signing to work out, but honestly I think they all can come good in time. Even RLC, he’s impressive in person, man. Physically a monstrous player and he has already displayed some very nice link up play. Musah is RAW but talented. I would be surprised if Okafor, Pulisic, and Chuk don’t perform well. I think they are all very good and natural fits for Piolisimo.

If we hit on Reijnders + 2/3 attackers, we should be in a very good spot.

 

[ForzaMilan2]

CAM was a major key position that absolutely needed to be addressed. It was as much of a high priority as RW/CF/CM. One could even argue that CAM was the most important position that had to be fixed. See the 1st part of the post. It was further prioritized when an opportunity (De Ketelaere) emerged favorably to us that we couldn't pass up on. Favorable circumstances lined up for us to prioritize CAM above all else. Not so much out of choice, but a combined consequence of budget limitations and transfer opportunities that emerged last season. See the 2nd part of the post, which will also be about why we went so strongly after De Ketelaere.

1) Why was CAM a high priority position that needed to be addressed?

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2) Why De Ketelaere? Why was he a transfer opportunity that furthered our priority of CAM?

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I respect your explanation, but I do not agree. If CDK was so "readily available", why did we have to pay full price for him (and waste most of the mercato in a rather embarrassing saga). It is not as if there were a lot of teams after him (if I remember, one).

One of the things I liked about the "Gazidis era" was that we set a target price for a player and did not go past that. Frustrating, but effective. I understand us scouting CDK and going after him (mistakes do happen). What I don't understand is wasting all our budget (and time) on one player, especially when we had other serious gaps in our team.

Then there is Origi.

 

[papaberlu]

Suma released a video talking about the feasibility of a Kessie return

 

[nonsonoqui]

I think the biggest determining factor in regard to our Scudetto challenge is actually the area we have invested almost nothing: The defense.

I think our midfield is better by virtue of the switch to a 433 and the numbers we’ve added. And I think our attack is obviously substantially upgraded.

For me it’s:
1) Can our midfield control matches and help defensively? Last season it looked like a turnstile even with wonderboi Tonali.

2) Can our defense reach a level similar to our Scudetto campaign? For that to happen, we need help from the midfield, Tomori and Kalulu need to find themselves, and Thiaw needs to prove to be the truth.

I agree we shouldn’t expect every signing to work out, but honestly I think they all can come good in time. Even RLC, he’s impressive in person, man. Physically a monstrous player and he has already displayed some very nice link up play. Musah is RAW but talented. I would be surprised if Okafor, Pulisic, and Chuk don’t perform well. I think they are all very good and natural fits for Piolisimo.

If we hit on Reijnders + 2/3 attackers, we should be in a very good spot.

Good point about the defence. I hope Tomori finds himself again after a bad season.

Also, Maignan, please stay fit. I will say, I am a Sportiello believer, however. Despite the blunder the other night.

 

[Wild]

One thing I have to give credit to Furlani on… Assembling the majority of the squad well in advance of the season beginning. The only player likely to be in the starting XI on opening day that isn’t with the team is Chuk…

When we travel back to Italy, we will have basically 3 weeks to practice and a couple of friendlies. We may not hit the ground running, but it shouldn’t take 2 months to find our footing.

That & the ferocious approach where we got majority of our primary targets.
Looking back when cunts were talking shit of how we didnt replace Tona after two days

 

[Ash]

Hahahahgammhaha
What bunch of pussys like they signed some top cm
He wont play before hakan fratesi barela and his defence is nooo good

Cant wait for you to flip flop and have another meltdown if our signings dont work out

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[Milan10]

That & the ferocious approach where we got majority of our primary targets.
Looking back when cunts were talking shit of how we didnt replace Tona after two days

remember how excited everyone was about us “taking Ls” left and right (Thuram and N’Dicke).

 

[Wild]

I, too, am excited.

What I ponder sporadically this summer is how wide we have cast our net. In doing so, we are bound to have some duds or teething problems. With all the new additions, some will underwhelm. The question is have we taken enough of the right gambles to make us competitive for the second star.

Also, let’s say, 4 signings work out. Who will they be? Will that be enough? I think the following players will do really well for us: Pulisic, Chuk, Reijnders, and Okafor. I think RLC will do well only if Pioli deploys him properly, where he excels. Assuming we sign him, Musah may take a while to adjust.

The question is if half our bet pays off, will that be enough for the Scudetto? I’d like to think, yes.

Four players working out then that at least will give Pioli a solid starting eleven which would be twice better than what Maldini provided last season.
Four players should mean scudetto.

 

[Milan10]

Good point about the defence. I hope Tomori finds himself again after a bad season.

Also, Maignan, please stay fit. I will say, I am a Sportiello believer, however. Despite the blunder the other night.

I’ll never forgive Sportiello for that. Ruined my whole experience at the Rose Bowl with my daughter

Tomori & Kalulu absolutely need to find their way. I think they just completely lost confidence last season. Even though he is younger, Thiaw seems like the type that can be a leader in the defense and that may settle them down, ignoring that time Kalulu tried to kill Thiaw last season.

 

[Wild]

remember how excited everyone was about us “taking Ls” left and right (Thuram and N’Dicke).

There is no one to call them , omg omg omg.
We were late for Ndicka i think.
Thuram was a weird one but we didnt wanna raise our offer & good ridance.
Doesnt matter who we miss but who we end up signing & Okafor is nice.