The Rumour Commode XLIII: A Cardinal Win

Who is your favorite team in the Saudi League?


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Is he your son? If so, you should have taught him better. Thought him some respect for human beings. No matter where you get to in life and how much money/fame you have, you should have respect.

And it doesn't matter what you say to him. Consequences are there for all of us. You can't blame clubs for not wanting to be associated with him right now. We all make choices.
You all speak as though you are beyond reproach and have never done anything in life that you gravely regret. If convicted criminals can have a second chance after they have serving time and end up living normal lives, why can't the same thing be applied to him because in the eyes of the public, he is already pronounced guilty
 

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Insane sum for a 1 year rental

and then Roma go and cry about FFP
 

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So i read a very touching article about Greenwood today and have been thinking about United's decision to ditch greenwood which was the only decision they could have made given the circumstances. However, i do feel that on a purely human level, we should give his situation a closer look and should seriously consider signing him after proper evaluation.

Before i proceed, i want to clearly state here that in no way, shape or form do i support what he did and how irresponsible he was. That being said, my suggestion that we should consider signing him is based on 2 reasons.

1. His talent is unquestionable and a player like him would elevate the quality of our attack to another level.
2. The human side of things.

As stated earlier, the footballing reason need no further discussion which is why this suggestion is clearly based on a human consideration.

From the statement united put out, their CEO stated that
"While we were unable to access certain evidence for reasons we respect, the evidence we did collate led us to conclude that Mason did not commit the acts he was charged with"

Now, I don't know whether from the above statement he was speaking from a purely legal point of view of or being overly technical or politically correct, but he also went further to state that

"We were provided with alternative explanations for the audio recording, which was a short excerpt from a much longer recording, and for the images posted online.

Regardless of the aforesaid, i think we can all agree that Greenwood acted in a manner that fell short of what is expected of someone in his position. No excuses there. This infact, brings me to point I'm trying to make.

Since we all agree that his actions were despicable, does this mean that he should never be given another chance? If Mason was your son, would it be fair to condemn him to retirement from the only thing he has ever done in his life and is good at doing at the age of 21?

If convicted criminals can serve time, return back to society, get jobs and live regular lives, why is Greenwood such an exception?

What do we expect that he does with his life going forward if he is forced into retirement? How would he cater to his family especially now he has a child?

We all have at some point in our lives let ourselves and our loved ones down and were happy to be given second chances.
What if this situation has actually made him grow up quickly and made him a better and more responsible person. Sometimes in life, you need to go through hell just to get to heaven.

If everyone of us at some point in our lives desired and were given second chances, I don't think he should be an exception. I know that this is on a much bigger scale, but still.....

I understand the risks of signing him and the fall out it would generate but i believe that we can actually spin this in a positive light and send a message with it.

There's no better place for him to thrive than the family atmosphere we share at the club. I believe he'll do really well here. This is a troubled young man who made a grave mistake that he has already paid for and is still paying for

Finally, society is very fickle and if in the near future he is seen to be conducting himself very well and refrains from anything that will further dent his public persona, you could even start seeing articles on how he turned his life around and how this setback changed him for the better.

In summary, if the club carefully evaluates the situation and decide to rehabilitate him and sign him, I'd never oppose it for the simple reason that he is only human and probably deserves a second chance. We all have skeletons in our cupboard.
Just think about it this way, if he did that to your mom, sister, wife, friend w/e...would you be able to forgive him or would you want the fucker to be alone, broke, bleeding in a ditch.
 

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🚨 Fenerbahce have made a fresh €10M+€1M bonus for Krunic. Fenerbahce chairman Ali Koç has stepped in personally and is trying to finalize the deal thanks to his good relationship with Milan managers

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🚨 Fenerbahce have made a fresh €10M+€1M bonus for Krunic. Fenerbahce chairman Ali Koç has stepped in personally and is trying to finalize the deal thanks to his good relationship with Milan managers

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I bet we ask for another 2m
 

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10 mils is a fair sum.

IF he wants to leave, then of course sell.

Dominguez in I suppose.
 

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So tonight is probably last match for Piolis son. 11M is fair from Turkish cheap bastrds
 

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Dominguez played way worse than Krunic last monday

it's 1 match. dominguez was very solid last season.

anyways... all trust to the guys in charge to properly replace krunic IF he is sold... and no doubt they've been working on it and have somehting in place already.

(hopefully a nice little gem like Chotard)
 

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Just think about it this way, if he did that to your mom, sister, wife, friend w/e...would you be able to forgive him or would you want the fucker to be alone, broke, bleeding in a ditch.
That's why a justice system exists and people are not made to serve punishment for ever. He has lost his employment, lost his endorsement and lost credibility. I think that's some punishment and the scars will forever remain with him. At this point, he should be treated as someone who has served his time and needs to be rehabilitated period. Double Jeopardy or in this case, unending jeopardy is not the way to go
 

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More how much risk are we willing to take? Do we go for Serie A or Top 4 league proven?
 

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Saudi's making the calculation that certain players have enough of a brand now that they can in the aggregate rival the brand value of a massive club. They're also much more malleable and can be turned into ambassadors for the country. This is what I meant that they're buying them for what they are off the pitch more than what they do on it. Nobody at PIF cares about whether the players they buy get a good xG threat every game. They want to see them promote the country and develop a culture of success locally and eventually host a world cup and an olympic games. By that time they would have developed the national infrastructure and human capital to be standing on their own as a player on the global stage. Qatar was a blueprint, but Saudi is an order of magnitude bigger in every way.
 

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it's 1 match. dominguez was very solid last season.

anyways... all trust to the guys in charge to properly replace krunic IF he is sold... and no doubt they've been working on it and have somehting in place already.

(hopefully a nice little gem like Chotard)
Gourna-Douath.
 

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10 mils is a fair sum.

IF he wants to leave, then of course sell.

Dominguez in I suppose.
Too small. No to dommy. Someone else please.
 

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Rade played good match, lets bi fair towards him. But he is not what Milan needs
We don't have neither the time nor the money to buy a Milan worthy DM.

Krunic is the best we have and we are selling him.
 

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That's why a justice system exists and people are not made to serve punishment for ever. He has lost his employment, lost his endorsement and lost credibility. I think that's some punishment and the scars will forever remain with him. At this point, he should be treated as someone who has served his time and needs to be rehabilitated period. Double Jeopardy or in this case, unending jeopardy is not the way to go
No one is denying him from playing. Clubs have the right to choose whether to hire him or not. What are you asking, that clubs be forced to play him? Like, against their will?
 

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Who said that they will invest just 11M. I think that sum will be between 15-18M. And they have to find better fit and better player than Rade
well because 11m would be the money at disposal after selling krunic

pellegrino was bought with the 3m loan fee for charles

i doubt there's an aditional 5m lying around somewhere
 

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Crazy how insistent Fenerbahce are for Krunic.

Today will be absolutely dead in terms of hard news I think. Get the game out of the way and then the business window is Sunday-Thursday.
 

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Just think about it this way, if he did that to your mom, sister, wife, friend w/e...would you be able to forgive him or would you want the fucker to be alone, broke, bleeding in a ditch.
To be fair that he did it to his gf actually helps him, putting his dick on his gf (=someone you are generally sexually intimate with) (and that's the only thing the recording has a chance to really prove apart from maybe threats) is quite a bit different to putting it on stranger. It is not ok if she doesn't want it but it introduces a bit of benefit of doubt.
 
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