The Rumour Commode XLIII: A Cardinal Win

[General]

FFS now our fans bringing shame to the club.

My bad

 

[Cloren]

Only dumb fuck can rotate in CL matches. For that you have the next match against Verona, in the fucking CL match you need to have the strongest 11 on the field.


Actually, I can understand the forced sub of Pulisic because the trip to the USA screwed him up, but Pobega... seriously? Instead of our best and most creative midfielder, you put tree instead, with Krunic and RLC?

Pioli always rotates for this CL group matches and it’s irritating.

Still remeber in 2021 where he kept playing Giroud in CL while Ibra/Rebic in Serie A, or Romangoli over Kjaer. Benched Kessie for CL..

We might still win but I hate such stupid decisions.

 

[yungeddy]

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Definetly a solid bet...not saying u cant get cucked but its value

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OR
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[Soldier_of_god]

My bad

Pioli can do that to fans.

 

[General]

betting against Milan?

id rather stab a Newcastle fan

 

[taura]

Camarda starting in cl youth

 

[Pigeon]

Your essay sounded like you were trying to discredit him by saying he dint exactly develop any players.

well yes i absolutely discredit him in this aspect

or which players has he developed so far? barella and lautaro are the same players as under conte. at best you could say calhanoglu in his new role but apart from that i don't see anyone who has made a big leap under him

 

[finnishhacker]

Your words are encouraging but his head still remains as coach. That needs to go. Heads need to roll.
Somebody has got to answer. Somebody has to pay. Pioli would be the perfect choice.

inter can beat us, but 5-1 is not the way to go. its a humiliation that the fans wont accept and Pioli has lost the fans forever i think

 

[Soldier_of_god]

inter can beat us, but 5-1 is not the way to go. its a humiliation that the fans wont accept and Pioli has lost the fans forever i think

He is gone. Finito. Finished.

 

[Omer]

On that we agree. As I already said, he was brought to win CL, not Serie A. But it's also quite evident to me that he was too big of a leap for them at that time. Too much capital / liquid means in form of wages and taxes and sign-on bonus and performance bonus and commissions and whatnot bound on him.

It harmed the rest of the Juve house. They went from one of the strongest teams in Europe with players like Pirlo, Pogba, Marchisio, Tevez, Vidal, Bonucci, Buffon, Chiellini and and and to a bunch of half-decent players plus Ronaldo. And then their house started to take damages they are still fixing today.




That's not entirely true tho, is it? There are other motivations too. Like in our case when Elliott made an investment X and the only way to not see it go down the drain was to raise capital and inject liquid means to ensure the show goes on.



Maybe I am, yeah, and if that came across like that I apologize because that's not what I meant

As I said, I do think our house is a solid one, one that generates profits who then can be reinvested to improve it - which is exactly what happens, isn't it? It's not like we generated 50M unused profit. We barely broke even, no? So whatever income we generated from winning Serie A or making it into CL Semifinals got used to strengthen the team. Or am I wrong?

Of course we're far from Real Madrid level. That's why it takes us so long to get there on the very top. This is not me saying we're on the same level of City and PSG, just to be clear

You said Red Bird could invest even more to further improve the house (and that per se I agree with). That a negative balance sheet in short-term doesn't harm in long-term but does actually quite the opposite. I mean yes, if that's true, isn't it also true that we haven't generated nothing but losses after losses for over 15 years? I guess at one point we do have to break even once in a while, no?



Well now you make it sound like they have those generous owners heavily investing money to win CL and Serie A at once, while in reality both Inter and Juve are cutting costs and trimming squad costs just as we are since Elliott took over



That's not entirely true either because we not only reduced costs, we also increased match day and sponsorship revenues. That as a direct consequence of increasing the sporting results. As a matter of fact we're the fastest growing football brand in Europe.

Again you're simplyfying the tremendous work that Elliott and Redbird have done so far too much IMO. They've done vastly more than simply reducing costs. And they will continue to do so, and not only with the new stadium.



Yes I agree that last season errors were made and they could have cost us direly. But Elliott and Redbird were not the only ones responsible. Both Maldini and Pioli played their role in this too.

I don't know why you keep simplyfying things in order to boil everything down to "Redbird didn't invest enough and that's the root of all bad things". At least you make it sound like that. I don't disagree with you but I think it's important to point out there are many other layers too in this debate that need to be mentioned as well.

Spending big is one thing, but now I think the more important things for Milan is to focus on smart scouting / recruitment, a top youth academy and for next season maybe getting a smarter coach like De Zerbi / Nagelsmann.

Moncada seems a good figure for scouting / recruitment. And it finally seems that mgmt is taking the youth academy seriously. These are good improvements.

We all know that RB is not going to spend their own money on the squad, so it's important to grow the revenues and to go as far as possible in the CL

Alo88 said:
Again you're simplyfying the tremendous work that Elliott and Redbird have done so far too much IMO. They've done vastly more than simply reducing costs. And they will continue to do so, and not only with the new stadium.

No Elliott MIlan both reduced costs and built the team. They invested around 400 mil over there time into the team. Now RB's 1st year was a step back from Elliott where Milan went from 1st in Serie A to 5th. We still have to see what RB will do. RB and Elliott are not the same. But overall some steps by RB seem good like the stadium and improving the youth academy.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

well yes i absolutely discredit him in this aspect

or which players has he developed so far? barella and lautaro are the same players as under conte. at best you could say calhanoglu in his new role but apart from that i don't see anyone who has made a big leap under him

He doesn't promote youth. That's his one drawback I agree. He knows how to make the team gel. He is ra tactically astute. Knows how to rotate his players. He is able to make in game changes. Hakan, Dumfries and dimarco etc. The players that dveleoped elevated their level. He brings the best out of them. They may have been good prior to him joining, but he raised their overall level.

 

[papaberlu]

FFS now our fans bringing shame to the club.

The way they behave online I can see why someone might be provoked by their behavior irl

 

[finnishhacker]

The way they behave online I can see why someone might be provoked by their behavior irl

imagine being linked to this attack only cuz you are a milan fan

 

[General]

imagine being linked to this attack only cuz you are a milan fan

why are we trying to imagine

did you read my post

 

[papaberlu]

Pobega starting is funny. I can already see Pioli's reasoning

Prem team physical
Pobega physical
Newcastle tall
Pobega tall

Pobega play

 

[finnishhacker]

why are we trying to imagine

did you read my post

i did read it now. GG

 

[Pigeon]

He doesn't promote youth. That's his one drawback I agree. He knows how to make the team gel. He is ra tactically astute. Knows how to rotate his players. He is able to make in game changes. Hakan, Dumfries and dimarco etc. The players that dveleoped elevated their level. He brings the best out of them. They may have been good prior to him joining, but he raised their overall level.

this guy you are talking about was almost fired last year btw
i am quite sure that you would find more drawbacks if he was coaching milan instead of inter this way obviously the grass is always greener

di marco was loaned out for years and put up 5g/5a in his last season at hellas as a left midfielder. he more or less confirmed those numbers at inter but he didn't really make a big leap

 

[Soldier_of_god]

this guy you are talking about was almost fired last year btw
i am quite sure that you would find more drawbacks if he was coaching milan instead of inter this way obviously the grass is always greener

di marco was loaned out for years and put up 5g/5a in his last season at hellas as a left midfielder. he more or less confirmed those numbers at inter but he didn't really make a big leap

He struggled midway cause of an injury crisis. Lukaku not playing for a large part hurt them but he turned it around unlike pioli who had fo rely on Rube's accounting scandal to fluke his way into top 4.

He made a big enough leap fo rhe point where he is now regarded as one of the best in his position.

 

[Hitchens]

Pobega starting is funny. I can already see Pioli's reasoning

Prem team physical
Pobega physical
Newcastle tall
Pobega tall

Pobega play

You are starting to come undone again

 

[Cloren]

You are starting to come undone again

All we needed was one defeat

 

[nefremo]

This is what makes my blood boil, not the result

Why the fuck do we press them deep? They are not bothered AT ALL. 8 passes with right movement and Thuram is isolated against Thiaw with our whole defense already behind and Malick has a choice to make - leave him 1 vs 1 on Maignan or pick up a card (what he did). And if you look closely when Thuram touches the ball there's not a single defender of ours that is in 20 meters radius there to help Thiaw in case Thuram manages to control the ball. And all this is happening from slow build up from their GK.
Just look at this:
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What kind of re-tard is having his team press so highly and ends up having this situation? It looks like a counter in the 95th minute, while in reality it was a build up from the GK in the 25th minute. And this is happening every game against them. I can't stand the bald re-tard...

I don't even call this "pressing". This is just players high up the field, but EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, is late to their assignment. A second and a step too late. Also, nott a single one of them pressed with intensity and sprint. It's all a jog. There is a shit ton of confusion also. Look at Giroud. Looking around, pointing, than going to that space anyway because nobody listened. But in reality, Giroud is the furthermost player....so he shouldn't be telling those behind him where to go. It should he them telling him.

This is a mess. It's actually embarrassing. It's like a bunch if kids learning about pressing at the training ground.

 

[mrki]

Pioli seriously saying "Reijnders is not irreplaceable." Then benched him for Pobega in a super important CL game?

Is this for real? Loool. Man he's gone full insane

 

[rossoner03]

The way they behave online I can see why someone might be provoked by their behavior irl

i think in the past 30 years when an Italian and English team meet an incident was also present

It's too bad that it still happens but definitely provoke is from each side

 

[iamditi]

Look at Furlani and how he greets journalists, I like it.

p.s I see now why Gerry doesn't invite Inter owner for dinner, he invites only womans , first Jennifer Lopez, now Amanda

 

[papaberlu]

You are starting to come undone again

meh I already said I think this team will finish 4th under Pioli

I now think it will be 3rd

I'm just reminded why I was correct to have no faith in Pioli

 

[papaberlu]

i think in the past 30 years when an Italian and English team meet an incident was also present

It's too bad that it still happens but definitely provoke is from each side

British tourists are also a cancer

Doesn't take much

 

[Cloren]

90k followers saying this garbage.

Premier League fans are trash.

Need to trash Newcastle today

 

[MilanBG]

90k followers saying this garbage.

Premier League fans are trash.

Need to trash Newcastle today

Not surprising at all. PL hype, oil money + we got fucked by our biggest rival just 3 days ago. There's no reason for a casual premtard to rate us right now.

 

[Forza Rossoneri]

Unless we win well, very well. this period will be like that dreadful hangover. You must get to and do good work. You need this focus. But you just can't think or feel like yourself. That lingering, piercing, throbbing outward pain that makes you feel the inside of your head physically.

A streak of wins and good play is absolutely necessary. Otherwise it's the feeling when you must wipe after taking a dump but your hands are tied. Before you wipe, you cant get back to business as usual. But you cant wipe. So you are stuck on the commode.

 

[nefremo]

90k followers saying this garbage.

Premier League fans are trash.

Need to trash Newcastle today

I would want nothing more than Newcastle finishing 4th. Not because I hate them or the PL. It's because of the arrogant fans that they (EPL) have. But to be honest, most people that say this know very little about football. They got into football during the age of EPL domination and don't watch or follow other leagues at all. Then they feel like their opinion on other leagues is valid. How can that be when they don't watch or follow them?

Oh well. We can talk all we want. There is only one way to show the world though, and that's to win today. It didn't do us any favors when we got smashed by Chelsea last year when Chelsea had such a poor EPL season.