The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

[Curupira]

Even after the pic of him taking a run?

 

[Myalon]

I knew that Allegri was a coach without ideas and defensive but I forgot that in addition to that he does not know how to choose players.

He lets Reijnders leave without flinching, he targets old circles and wants to fire an attacker who has just arrived to buy the same more expensive.

You have defensive coaches like Simeone but at least he plays for the win and knows how to choose efficient players.

This coach is the biggest football crook I wonder how he can work.

I thought we would target at least good players.

This transfer window is like the slow coach, without ideas, no grip, no decision.

What a crook he is depressing!

 

[sheva]

I don't particularly disagree with any of the above. I don't think the Maldini sacking gave Maignan, Theo, Leao etc a right to pout their way through two suboptimal seasons. And I don't think that's what they've done either, necessarily. From my perspective the main reason for a visible drop in performance is the lack of vision, coherent leadership from management in the ensuing two years after the sacking of Maldini, whatever one thinks about that event. That environment, which I think is hard to defend really, is the main cause for drop in performance. And that most likely had a notable effect on our best players. With that being said I do think this period has reflected poorly on our "stars", with little shown in terms of the leadership we hoped they had in the tank.

Yeah, I never understood that notion

Did the players sign for AC management? Do they play on San Maldini stadium?
A footballers career is short, and If they think coasting by will give them better career or financial manouvers.. I don't know man, look at Theo hernandez right now.

Look at gigio. He could've stayed as a local ac Milan hero and would've played until career's end in the club. But last year he won CL and will get a higher contract.

Outside factors will always exist. Even in the Pax Milano era of maldini-gazidis-massara, there was still turmoil in the management, like gazidis blocking maldini initiatives and elliot not going full sheikh mode regarding players' salaries and transfer funds.

Why did they gave output then and not now? Because instead of maldini in their dressing room they have a cowardy lion? Lol

II'm not saying that players are supposed to over perform in a club with a lack of stability in managers or directors. Expecting a Ballon dor season from players who see 4 different coaches in 400 days is unrealistic to say the least.

But, by backing those players to the fullest, encourages complacency and leniancy, and actually encourages continuation of that same mentality to new players, therefore continuing this oraborous cycle to no end.

And fans wishing them to do 'an origi'? Yeah, feck the club indeed

 

[ymsv]

Even after the pic of him taking a run?

At the first moment they were probably happy that he is leaving .

 

[finnishhacker]

@AntoVitiello: Milan no longer want to continue with Theo Hernandez and are pushing hard for the French full-back’s departure. The club is close to a complete break with the left-back, who is no longer part of the Rossoneri’s project, and hopes that Theo will soon accept the significant offer he has received from Saudi Arabia.

How far he has fallen. Not a single club wants anything to do with him. Maybe I would feel a bit sorry for him if it weren’t for that match against Feyenoord. But after that… no.

I feel like we wouldn't be in this position if he didn't do what we did there

 

[sheva]

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I Ran?

Look what happend to the last person who brought the WNT into the commode

You don't want to be in the gulag during this period, mercato is the best part of the season in this club

 

[Massaro94]

 

[sheva]

I knew that Allegri was a coach without ideas and defensive but I forgot that in addition to that he does not know how to choose players.

He lets Reijnders leave without flinching, he targets old circles and wants to fire an attacker who has just arrived to buy the same more expensive.

You have defensive coaches like Simeone but at least he plays for the win and knows how to choose efficient players.

This coach is the biggest football crook I wonder how he can work.

I thought we would target at least good players.

This transfer window is like the slow coach, without ideas, no grip, no decision.

What a crook he is depressing!

Allegri is not the emperor of Milan, friend

 

[Massaro94]

@AntoVitiello: Milan no longer want to continue with Theo Hernandez and are pushing hard for the French full-back’s departure. The club is close to a complete break with the left-back, who is no longer part of the Rossoneri’s project, and hopes that Theo will soon accept the significant offer he has received from Saudi Arabia.

How far he has fallen. Not a single club wants anything to do with him. Maybe I would feel a bit sorry for him if it weren’t for that match against Feyenoord. But after that… no.

Glad I got off the theo bandwagon when I did

Was by far my favourite player... now I can't wait to read Milan have given him the boot.

1 down ... 1 more to go.

Sooner this happens, soo er we can get back on track as a team.

 

[Massaro94]

I knew that Allegri was a coach without ideas and defensive but I forgot that in addition to that he does not know how to choose players.

He lets Reijnders leave without flinching, he targets old circles and wants to fire an attacker who has just arrived to buy the same more expensive.

You have defensive coaches like Simeone but at least he plays for the win and knows how to choose efficient players.

This coach is the biggest football crook I wonder how he can work.

I thought we would target at least good players.

This transfer window is like the slow coach, without ideas, no grip, no decision.

What a crook he is depressing!

Was simeone being efficient when he paid 120M for joao felix

 

[SuperP]

Allegri really likes big tall strikers I can see why he doesnt like Gimenez

 

[Massaro94]

I think the whole “serie a completely sucks” thing is so overblown by people who just want to feel smart for knowing that Milan can’t compete with the richest clubs. No league can compete with England, even Madrid and Bayern are scared of the epl trajectory. But after that serie a is a good league rn, there are good players here, the teams do well in Europe recently, and after England it’s easily the most competitive league by far. Yes there are dinosaurs that severely hold back the ceiling but other leagues have problems too.

There is absolutely no reason Milan can’t compete in Italy regularly and aim for CL knockouts every season, we absolutely have enough resources to do that. Now whether or not we trust the people running the club to do that is a separate question, but in terms of capability we absolutely can do that. Nobody here is smarter than everyone else for recognizing Milan isn’t one of the richest clubs anymore lol.

Before someone gets salty about this, I’m not coming at anyone specifically, and don’t box me into the ultra positivity box either. Milan absolutely has a ceiling but we can grow in our own environment, we don’t have to be so bitchy about everything always. I have low expectations for next season but there’s definitely a world where we bounce back and shoot into the CL again. That’s much better than the banter era, it’s not nearly as gloomy as you’d think coming here and reading this place every day.

Sorry bro...but from growing up and watching serie a as the goat league it does suck right now.

In almost 2 decades...only 2 teams have won euro comps.

The nazionale have won 1 world cup game since 2006

The league definitely sucks when crap like mctominay can come here and boss it.

But what makes this league utter trash is the people that run it. They have done more damage to serie a than any outsider could have dreamed of.

I struggle to watch any games outside of ours.

Nobody asidenfrom dumbass Americans wants to invest in the league as nobody wants to deal with the Italian dinosaurs that run the league.

It's such a shame as like I said in the beginning this was the goat league. From late 80s to 99 Italian teams were making it to all euro comps. Sometimes there were all Italian finals.

I just want Milan to be great again. Couldn't care less about the others.

 

[leaf]

bro thinks he's a model but he's not
bro thinks he's a rapper but he's not
bro thinks he's Ronaldinho but he's not

he's just rich because professional football has become a joke

He's handsomer than you (certainly than me)
He's made more rap than you
He's waaaay closer to Ronaldinho than 99.9% of planet earth
His football is of such quality that he's made enough money to never need to work ever again

Neither you nor me exist to Leao or to AC Milan itself. Don't you think it's time you did something more positive with your life than constantly hate on the guy?

 

[CapitanoMaldini]

#Milan wants to strengthen the midfield, in the next few hours there will be a new and important relaunch for Javi #Guerra

@DiMarzio

 

[Milaniscool]

I knew that Allegri was a coach without ideas and defensive but I forgot that in addition to that he does not know how to choose players.

He lets Reijnders leave without flinching, he targets old circles and wants to fire an attacker who has just arrived to buy the same more expensive.

You have defensive coaches like Simeone but at least he plays for the win and knows how to choose efficient players.

This coach is the biggest football crook I wonder how he can work.

I thought we would target at least good players.

This transfer window is like the slow coach, without ideas, no grip, no decision.

What a crook he is depressing!

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[Master Smurf]

I think you're missing the point. It's not just about sporting success. Two of the three main revenue streams for any club are TV rights and match day income. And both are areas where Italian football is bleeding.

We can pat ourselves on the back all day for doing better in Europe recently than during the lost decade before – but the reality is: outside Italy, no one really cares to watch Serie A. International demand is still disappointingly low. Serie A makes about the same from international TV rights as the Bundesliga – which is actively closing the gap and might even overtake Italy soon. And we're miles behind La Liga, which is basically a two-club league at this point. And I'm not even gonna talk about EPL.

One of the root causes is the FIGC’s inability to promote an attractive product. Partially because the football isn’t marketed well, but mostly because the matchday experience is still stuck in the 90s, which ties directly into the second important revenue stream (3rd being sponsoring). Germany built or renovated nearly every stadium ahead of their WC year in 2006. Italy on the other hand is still fighting for basic permits in one of its most "modern" cities. It's been 15 years of talking about a new stadium in Milan. Fifteen – and we're not even close.

That’s a national tragedy.

So yeah, under those circumstances, it’s not "overblown" to talk about how hard it is for Italian clubs to compete. In fact, we don’t talk nearly enough about how FIGC incompetence and Italian politics are actively sabotaging Serie A’s future. Instead, fans keep blaming club managements for not performing miracles with one hand tied and the other cut off.

Serie A’s ceiling isn’t set by sporting merit – it’s set by a system too broken to climb any higher.

You used to be positivity ?!

Great breakdown - sad but sobering

 

[Master Smurf]

He's handsomer than you (certainly than me)
He's made more rap than you
He's waaaay closer to Ronaldinho than 99.9% of planet earth
His football is of such quality that he's made enough money to never need to work ever again

Neither you nor me exist to Leao or to AC Milan itself. Don't you think it's time you did something more positive with your life than constantly hate on the guy?

If we don't exist then why must you constantly chide others and defend his honour ??!!

And that primary school argument - come now Leaf.
Rafa gets to live a great life and fans get to love and hate the guy.

So I guess I should also but out and let the circle of life spin

 

[leaf]

You used to be positivity ?!

Great breakdown - sad but sobering

Alo has gone over to the dark side at least 6 months now

In other news....you have an impressive amount of tranny gifs bro
#NoJudgement

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Oh, sweet summer child

Our veterans are more interested in their rap albums, beating hookers on the weekend, or openly weep in the SD's arms so he'll release them from the club


Guy is a literal @Soldier_of_god

Why didn't Ryan coogler cast him in Sinners? This is like a testemant of some religious person from a Louisiana backwater church

I am god’s soldier of death.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

i wouldn't put much weight on these rumors as i find this highly unlikely, but if it indeed were true, maybe he's not as good as we expected? maybe if we sell him now we can recoup 80% of what we spent rather than wait a year and sell him only for 50% of the cost? if selling Gimenez increases our budget to a point where we can bring a guarantee like Osimhen, then by all means sell... Gimenez does not seem like he has innate talent and seems very replaceable

the sporting decisions Milan has made since Zlatan has joined have been really, really questionable. from the coach to the players chosen...i read somewhere that last year zlatan announced we were close to signing 4 players and that was even before we announced fonseca? that's very indicative of what a mess the sporting situation was like, if true


it would be nice if Tare or Allegri gives us an idea of what kinda squad they intend to build here or what their objectives are.... at every club, in every sport, when a new important recruit takes place in management, they always announce their intentions & vision to the fans upon starting their new adventures.. i'm not entirely sure why they're still leaving us fans in the dark... especially after selling Reijnders after such a bad season, after they said no sacrifices would need to be made due to our finances being in order at the end of the season... the silence is deafening and i think it reflects their guilt for such a bad season

this lack of basic and minimal communication just makes the situation even more irritating for the fans

Oshimen 60 mil and sell gimi for 40
Then get j David for free as well

That’s the only time it make sense

But that also means 60 mil for Napoli to spend

 

[Balo45]

Aight last time I’m commenting on this lmao, Friday night and we all probably want to do other shit. But since just got a couple replies from Alo and Massaro.

My point was not really directly tied to how good or bad serie a is, or its limitations. @Alo I fully get all of that and wouldn’t disagree with anything you said. And Massaro you actually partially proved my point that I said to someone else earlier about expectations. You’re probably older than me(you definitely are no offense), I am 29 and didn’t grow up ever seeing this club with massive purchasing power, I became a fan a bit after our last CL trophy. I have never known a Milan that’s at the top of the game, in sporting success or off the field capabilities. The biggest transfer we did since I’ve been around was Ibra, and he was a bargain from a team that didn’t want him(even if he was a great player). I have no expectations and I don’t cope that my club isn’t like the Milan a lot of you grew up with, I never even knew it. I can get how a fan would be in the dumps about the state of their club if a Madrid or barca suddenly lost their status at the top.

And at Alo, my post wasn’t solely about serie a. When I logged on this morning I saw people arguing about attitudes toward the team and league, and I still standby that it’s overblown by some here. You don’t need to explain to me the limitations of being a club in Italy, it’s literally all I’ve ever known. I don’t ever expect Milan to financially compete at the top in my lifetime. Everyone has a right to view the team however they want, this isn’t me telling people how to be fans. But god damn, if you didn’t know any better youd get on here and think serie a was equal to mls Jesus Christ. That’s all I meant but pointing out the league has decent quality right now, it’s not very complicated and it wasn’t me trying to sway anyone into thinking Milan is some sleeping CL cash cow.

A quick google search, Milan is still top 15 on club value. We still spend a decent amount of money over the years relative to where we are, and we still have higher wages than most teams in Italy. There is a tier below europes “elite” clubs that is consistently solid, routinely makes Cl knockouts, and sometimes catches lightning in a bottle to go beyond that. Milan can get there, even with the limitations everyone bitches about so much. There are teams that have and make less than Milan that are routinely better than us! FFS actually hiring a real sporting director and league established coach is something a 12 year old would know is smart, and we just now made those steps. Again, my expectations are still low for the upcoming season. Im not saying whether I think we will or won’t get to where we think we should be. I was more chiming in on the attitude debate(and just that I feel a certain group of negative nancies are annoying). With that, time to go roll up and drink some lmao

 

[leaf]

If we don't exist then why must you constantly chide others and defend his honour ??!!

And that primary school argument - come now Leaf.
Rafa gets to live a great life and fans get to love and hate the guy.

So I guess I should also but out and let the circle of life spin

What's childish is all the personal attacks on a guy who's life is miles better than ours.
Makes them look goofy as fuck.

You got football criticisms for our best player?
Fine. Let's hear them. Drown me with them.
But it's not just football criticism we get.
A ton of fuckin nonsense about his hair and his clothes and the shit he does for fun.
Gay as hell

 

[Ryo]

Ok that's what I wanted to hear. Because in a previous post of yours I think you said that they sold Reinder in the 2024/25 year so to fix the books for the current year which might have ended in a small loss otherwise!

Now if City was the only team willing to buy Reindeer for a good price and they were only going to do a deal now and not later and there was a real risk of being banned from Europe in 2026 ( which doesn't seem that likely ) then that's another thing.....

Going by the two years of net profits on the books 4.1M and 6.1M, if we indeed had 25M in net losses (saw it reported somewhere if Tiji hadn't been sold, that would have been what we ended on), then the three year rolling would have been a net loss. So that's not wrong.

Again, I am going by what was published in the books, completely ignoring whether Stadium costs for San Donato can be exempted.

If they CAN be exempted, then we have a healthy profit for the 3 year rolling period, regardless of whether Tiji gets sold or not.

 

[Master Smurf]

Alo has gone over to the dark side at least 6 months now

In other news....you have an impressive amount of tranny gifs bro
#NoJudgement

They're all from one show - if you watch it you may enjoy it too ....maybe not, only one white girl.

I know RnB just loves their homophobia so started using them as a joke but found many fit perfectly

 

[Tantalis]

leao doesnt have bars

 

[Master Smurf]

What's childish is all the personal attacks on a guy who's life is miles better than ours.
Makes them look goofy as fuck.

You got football criticisms for our best player?
Fine. Let's hear them. Drown me with them.
But it's not just football criticism we get.
A ton of fuckin nonsense about his hair and his clothes and the shit he does for fun.
Gay as hell

How do you know his life is miles better????
He makes more money - that's about all you really know

Why do you care so much about what someone you don't actually know says about another person you don't actually know????

It's part and parcel of fandom and being in the public eye so why make it so personal?

 

[CapitanoMaldini]

I have a good feeling that the young Leoni could arrive.
Max Allegri has watched him several times this season and is pushing.

 

[Ryo]

I thought that stadium costs could be exempted, rather than them being always exempted from FFP calculations--which makes sense, if you aren't owned by an entity that can independently fund a stadium purchase, like the 40-50m for San Donato, but the club can, then you'd rely on the club's money.

My theory is that they would rather have that money spent through the revenues of the club than through money that they would have to put down themselves.

I get the reduction of the tax bill, but spending money on players could have done that, as well.

If I wanted to be kind to them, I guess you could argue that they did not plan for Milan missing out on the CL, let alone all of Europe, so the mistake of that allocation is more the product of hindsight? It raises questions over their risk analyses, but I cannot find any other rationale other than they would rather encumber the club with costs than pay for them themselves. They have removed a significant amount of money that could have been used on players.

Nail on the head brother.

Every year we can budget what we expect our revenues to be. Sometimes you get unexpected windfall (eq. We win Scudetto instead of just making top 4, or we budgeted for UCL R16s, but we actually made it to the Semi's) and sometimes shit hits the fan like it did this year (Budgeted for top 4, ended up out of Europe). Nobody could predict the future.

Merda maybe actually budgeted for a Triplete, but ended up with shit results across the board, that would hurt their plans.

We can plan and budget all we want at the start of the year, how the year ends is up to the players and God.

That's why budgets tend to be more often than not, more conservative. Plan for the worst and hope for a nice surprise.

 

[Kuroha]

#Milan wants to strengthen the midfield, in the next few hours there will be a new and important relaunch for Javi #Guerra

@DiMarzio

Define "important"

 

[MW6]

If a football club sells a player for a profit (Reijnders in this case) while the club has a negative balance (i.e., a financial loss carried forward), the profit from that player sale can be offset against the existing losses.

This means the club does not have to pay tax on that profit, since it can deduct the gain from the accumulated deficit in its financial accounts. In accounting terms, this is referred to as loss carryforward or tax loss offsetting.

As a result, no corporate tax is applied to the player sale profit until the club’s balance turns positive again and the losses are fully offset.

In other words, they get to keep more money from the sale of Reijnders than they would’ve if the sold him while in a positive balance.