The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

[AndreiX]

I don't deny he's been bad last season but still 7 goal contributions in the league.

But was it the season before last where he was made to play CB for a month or 2. And what were we all unanimously saying then?

Maybe he's going through shit at home, but we are going to write him off and discredit what he did before, because of one bad year? And if we do this for him, we should be doing it even worse with Leao.
He's a LB - he can't be expected to carry the team and stop the rest being shit. The whole club was toxic this year. Everyone's form dropped.

I don't understand how you or anyone can't believe that there's a chance under Allegri, that he'd get back to his best. What's the argument for why he can't?

You must be desperate for Maignan to leave then, eh? A huge unjustified salary, and his mistakes cost way more goals.

I'm such a big mike fan that you have to go back exactly 1 page to find me hoping we'd sell if we get offered 20m+

And theo has been declining in intensity for a long time. it's just that his 70% looked better than most LBs' 100. His peak here was when Rebic was still fighting with Leao for the LW

He's been inexcusably lazy for at least 1.5 years. We gave him the armband, we let him play a more freeroaming role during build up, he didnt get benched after games he lost us single-handedly. I dont feel like the club did him wrong on any level, he was shown trust time and time again and he stopped caring all the same

Pavlovic came here from bum fuck nowhere, plenty pressure on him, made mistake after mistake and it didnt stop him from running his heart out til the final whistle. Theo used to do that too, but now he's got milan and dechamps tryina motivate him and he just can't seem a fk to give. It's been a long time already, we can't afford to keep leaking goals from his side just cause he might magically wake up one day. if he doesnt we dont have the money to replace him without a sale and the longer we wait the less he's worth, he already barely has a market

I'd excuse him if he was trying and it just wasnt working out for him but he genuinely stopped trying. I dont think it's a safe move to keep trying to bring him back to form when he doesn't seem that interested in trying to do it himself. you can lead a horse to water and all that

 

[Milan2012]

Theo better leave while he still has some people like this holding up his legacy here

The dude scores every once 10 games while leaving attackers unmarked for no reason 2-3 times per game, his heart's not in it anymore. He can sometimes do OK offensively but you can't have a left side with Leao's work rate and Theo's lack of defensive focus

As a bonus if he fks off we'll get rid of his corners as well cause jfc. The guy scored 1 fk and started taking/squandering every set piece

Theo is done at this level. He plays football w the same enthusiasm Sisyphus pushes rocks

One must imagine Sisyphus happy.

 

[LemonCookies]

Out: 30M Theo, 55M Reijnders, 20M Musah, 14M Kalulu.

More exits: Adli, Bennacer, Royal, Terraciano, Chucky, Okfaor, Morata and one of Pavlovic/Tomorri/Thiaw.

In: 0M Modric, 15M Xhaka, 28M Guerra, RB, LB, LW, ST, CB

I don't see why we wouldn't keep Adli and Terracciano. And I'd sell Tomori of those CB's, unless a mega offer for Pavlovic comes from the Prem. It's more likely a middle table club goes for Tomori and we'd punch it for 25 or something.

 

[rossonero23]

3m wage cap.

Can't win or attract players. Epl relegation teams have more funds

 

[fray]

€30m up to €35m for current Theo is a marvellous deal.

At this juncture it's not a question of ability (it never was!), but a question of motivation. What we've witnessed since 2023 is a player at the end of his cycle, steadily on a steeper downward spiral. Although we have a new manager that can potentially revitalize him, I just don't think we can risk refusing that sort of outlay, which is probably €15m more than what an European club could offer.

With that said, is there a left-back on the market which is attainable for current Milan? As of today, reading the newspapers predicted Milan XI for next season, all I've seen is Barthesaghi lmao. Maybe De Cuyper?

 

[ymsv]

3m wage cap.

Can't win or attract players. Epl relegation teams have more funds

Serie A problem .

 

[DonSilvio]

Man they love Modric like no other player

 

[fray]

Re: Javi Guerra,

be prepared to watch negotiations drag on until late July.

Tomorrow Milan will offer €20m + €2m in bonuses.
Valencia ask for €25m + bonuses.

Then we'll offer €21m + €2m in bonuses.
Valencia ask for €25m + bonuses.

Another offer of €23m + €1m in bonuses + resale %.
Valencia are still asking for €25m + bonuses.

Then, on some random day late in July, they'll finally accept Milan's offer of €25m + €2m in bonuses + resale %.

 

[Curupira]

Nothing from brk on this, nothing from brk on this

 

[Dokoa]

Are we Xhaka yet?

 

[Curupira]

With that said, is there a left-back on the market which is attainable for current Milan?

 

[LemonCookies]

€30m up to €35m for current Theo is a marvellous deal.

At this juncture it's not a question of ability (it never was!), but a question of motivation. What we've witnessed since 2023 is a player at the end of his cycle, steadily on a steeper downward spiral. Although we have a new manager that can potentially revitalize him, I just don't think we can risk refusing that sort of outlay, which is probably €15m more than what an European club could offer.

With that said, is there a left-back on the market which is attainable for current Milan? As of today, reading the newspapers predicted Milan XI for next season, all I've seen is Barthesaghi lmao. Maybe De Cuyper?

If we're willing to pay a fee, Estupiñán or Udogie would be solid. Their wages wouldn't break our limits, either.

 

[fray]

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hell yeah

 

[nonsonoqui]

3m wage cap.

Can't win or attract players. Epl relegation teams have more funds

Dude what the fuck are you talking about?

 

[tonyb]

I'm such a big mike fan that you have to go back exactly 1 page to find me hoping we'd sell if we get offered 20m+

And theo has been declining in intensity for a long time. it's just that his 70% looked better than most LBs' 100. His peak here was when Rebic was still fighting with Leao for the LW

He's been inexcusably lazy for at least 1.5 years. We gave him the armband, we let him play a more freeroaming role during build up, he didnt get benched after games he lost us single-handedly. I dont feel like the club did him wrong on any level, he was shown trust time and time again and he stopped caring all the same

Pavlovic came here from bum fuck nowhere, plenty pressure on him, made mistake after mistake and it didnt stop him from running his heart out til the final whistle. Theo used to do that too, but now he's got milan and dechamps tryina motivate him and he just can't seem a fk to give. It's been a long time already, we can't afford to keep leaking goals from his side just cause he might magically wake up one day. if he doesnt we dont have the money to replace him without a sale and the longer we wait the less he's worth, he already barely has a market

I'd excuse him if he was trying and it just wasnt working out for him but he genuinely stopped trying. I dont think it's a safe move to keep trying to bring him back to form when he doesn't seem that interested in trying to do it himself. you can lead a horse to water and all that

If he was trying and playing bad, then it's the right time to sell. But we know if his head is screwed on then he'll get back to being one of the best in his position in the world.

Look, all I'm saying is there are guys who defend Tomori, RLC, Chuk, Musah. 3 of those 4 were never good enough and will never be good enough. Tomori was once good. And his shit form has been going on far longer than Theo.

I much prefer getting rid of all of these players before guys like Theo.
If we were an elite team, I'd understand getting rid of him. Unfortunately we are desperate and have to keep players who've proven to be world class at one point, even if they have problems and are out of form. Because we can't attract them and I think we need to go all out for the scudetto this season and I prefer rolling the dice on him rediscovering his form under Allegri.

You lot are acting like there's 0% chance Theo finds his form again. 7 goal contributions in the league, where he everyone was dog shit. From the top to the bottom. And we are talking like he's a pub player now. Shit, I don't wanna hear your reviews on everyone else.

At the end of the season, our best 4 players in the squad were... Theo, Leao, Reijnders and Pulisic.

 

[Curupira]

Dude what the fuck are you talking about?

Probably referring to this:

Pedulla: €30m fee and €3m salaries - Milan's limit on signings and the exceptions​

 

[leaf]

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@AndreiX R&B will continue to get more creative the longer you leave wnt closed.

Maybe you can reconsider
You don’t want to hear about a new signing as a “retaliatory strike” etc

 

[Milan2012]

I don't see why we wouldn't keep Adli and Terracciano. And I'd sell Tomori of those CB's, unless a mega offer for Pavlovic comes from the Prem. It's more likely a middle table club goes for Tomori and we'd punch it for 25 or something.

We’ll see for Adli and Bennacer, but I’m assuming theyre not in the plans. Adli had a decent season, but I think his defensive and positioning weaknesses don’t make him an Allegri player. (I think Adli is a poor mans Reijnders. Neither of them really fit into what Allegri likes from his midfielders.) Strong case could be made for Bennacer, but I think that ships already sailed. (Especially if bring both Xhaka and Modric.)

The midfield I assume would look like: Modric, Xhaka, Guerra, Fofana, RLC, Pobega/Bondo.

I think you could make a case for all of Pavlovic, Thiaw, or Tomori leaving. Only Gabbias tactical maturity really seems like match for Allegri. I dont know how Pavlovic works in a tight structure, Thiaw is error prone, Tomori is hot headed.

 

[nonsonoqui]

Probably referring to this:

Thanks.

So a bit more nuance and also nothing of the sort reported elsewhere

 

[LemonCookies]

We’ll see for Adli and Bennacer, but I’m assuming theyre not in the plans. Adli had a decent season, but I think his defensive and positioning weaknesses don’t make him an Allegri player. (I think Adli is a poor mans Reijnders. Neither of them really fit into what Allegri likes from his midfielders.) Strong case could be made for Bennacer, but I think that ships already sailed. (Especially if bring both Xhaka and Modric.)

The midfield I assume would look like: Modric, Xhaka, Guerra, Fofana, RLC, Pobega/Bondo.

I think you could make a case for all of Pavlovic, Thiaw, or Tomori leaving. Only Gabbias tactical maturity really seems like match for Allegri. I dont know how Pavlovic works in a tight structure, Thiaw is error prone, Tomori is hot headed.

Tomori has become much more error prone. With a midfield that protects well, I think Thiaw's skillset could be immense.

 

[finnishhacker]

In other News, Rüdiger is a piece of shit. Double Meniskus would look nice on him

 

[Curupira]

Thanks.

So a bit more nuance and also nothing of the sort reported elsewhere

The article also says “for certain profiles, there can be exceptions”

Basically a huge nothing burger

 

[Milan2012]

Tomori has become much more error prone. With a midfield that protects well, I think Thiaw's skillset could be immense.

Yeah I can see it, but to play devils advocate it could be due to the style of football we’ve been playing post scudetto. Also the fact that we were strongly linked with Leoni makes me think it would be one of the younger guys to go. Plus thats guaranteed sale at a loss from his signing at 33M, where you could register a plus with Pavlo or Thiaw.

I wouldnt mind him leaving, but I can also see Allegri and the rest wanting to keep him.

 

[ymsv]

@AndreiX R&B will continue to get more creative the longer you leave wnt closed.

Maybe you can reconsider
You don’t want to hear about a new signing as a “retaliatory strike” etc

Big beautiful retaliatory signings .

 

[Milaniscool]

I'm amazed whenever anyone cheers or encourages us to sell Theo or Leao.
We've seen how good they can be. They're not veterans. They're in their peak years. It just takes a good manager to get it out of them...Give up any hope that we replace either with a player that can get to their peak form.

These same people, want to keep Maignan. A goalkeeper that has been far weaker for far longer and can certainly be replaced with a cheaper alternative who is better.

Call me crazy, but he does go down as a legend. Purely on goals scored. Is he our highest goal scoring defender? For me, better than Serginho and only 2nd to Maldini as best LB.

A legend? Lmao this is Milan not Hellas Verona. Theo is a legendary player only on FIFA because of his pace stats. Nada mas.

 

[nonsonoqui]

 

[AndreiX]

@AndreiX R&B will continue to get more creative the longer you leave wnt closed.

Maybe you can reconsider
You don’t want to hear about a new signing as a “retaliatory strike” etc

I don't read it much cause I hate that place so I don't/can't moderate it ; wes and nsq are the ones whose brain gets melted tryina moderate that so they're in charge of opening and closing it

It's always a battle of open vs closed. If they think they can handle it and it should be open I'm never against it, but when they ask if we should close it I'm the first vote for yes

 

[nonsonoqui]

I don't read it much cause I hate that place so I don't/can't moderate it ; wes and nsq are the ones whose brain gets melted tryina moderate that so they're in charge of opening and closing it

It's always a battle of open vs closed. If they think they can handle it and it should be open I'm never against it, but when they ask if we should close it I'm the first vote for yes

I don’t read it much either but when I do…

Yeah, I wouldn’t hold my breath @leaf. Sorry, hopefully the football and Milan can keep you engaged. I feel for people like you and vb9…but not enough for us to open it.

 

[nonsonoqui]

 

[LemonCookies]

Yeah I can see it, but to play devils advocate it could be due to the style of football we’ve been playing post scudetto. Also the fact that we were strongly linked with Leoni makes me think it would be one of the younger guys to go. Plus thats guaranteed sale at a loss from his signing at 33M, where you could register a plus with Pavlo or Thiaw.

I wouldnt mind him leaving, but I can also see Allegri and the rest wanting to keep him.

True. If we get Leoni, it's him and Gabbia starting, I feel. Thiaw as the first sub, Pavlovic in there to defend leads, play 3 at the back, etc.