Italian Football Thread II

[ernesto]

arrivederci scudetto... for real...

 

[ernesto]

we need them to mess up 2 matches, which is unlikely... and more importantly, we need to not mess up ANY of the remaining matches... which is even more unlikely... fuck this shit..

 

[milanpalermo23]

yeah, and juve have cesena, novara, cagliari, lecce, and atalanta.

i hate to blame our season loss on the referees, but it is so hard not to. juve have played decent football against the better teams. idk what to say

 

[Paguma Larvata]

yeah, and juve have cesena, novara, cagliari, lecce, and atalanta.

i hate to blame our season loss on the referees, but it is so hard not to. juve have played decent football against the better teams. idk what to say

Decent?? They have played excellent against the top teams:

thrashed Napoli 3-0, Roma 4-0, Inter twice, Milan 2-0, Lazio 2-1, Fiorentina 5-0. What are you talking about?

 

[ernesto]

yeah, and juve have cesena, novara, cagliari, lecce, and atalanta.

i hate to blame our season loss on the referees, but it is so hard not to. juve have played decent football against the better teams. idk what to say

There is no point blaming referees when we LOST against fiorentina and drew bologna.

 

[MonsterKane]

The Queen in the Juventus jersey?

 

[SpartanMilan]

Our players showed no killer instinct. We lost to a piss poor Fiorentina side in the middle of the league title run in. We came out flat against another poor team today. We have acted as if we deserve the title by showing up will Juve has been willing to fight and get it.

and as much as Conte is a douche (and possible worse depending on what the investigation in Serie B finds) but he has done a great job with Juve. He brought a new mentality to the team and made them believe they were winners after years of mediocre seasons, and he has been very flexible with his tactics to put his players in the best position to win, something Al hasnt done

 

[Ash]

People should really stop calling Juve's team mediocre btw. The only thing mediocre in their team is their strikeforce and their bench.

Whereas our entire midfield (bar Van Bommel who haven't been amazing either) is mediocre and so are our FBs

Our bench is also more or less crap

You could say we have better CBs than Juve but even then only in individual quality. As a combination Barzagli and Chiellini have been much better than Nesta - Silva this season....

Juve won the title the moment the two fucks at the head of the management decided 'we are fine as we are' and decided that we did not need major upgrades but only merely cosmetic improvements. It seems to be a recurring theme with those two bozos (still remember the shithole of signings after winning the CL in 2007) and all the two fucks can do is talk about how we will do this and that, buy this guy and that, aim for this and that, and end up doing jack squat...

People may give a reason that we don't have money. I ask - WHY THE FUCK DON'T WE?

We are still one of the highest earning clubs in the world yet our expenses are ******ed. We have the highest wage bill in Serie A (and are amongst the top 5 highest paying clubs in the world) in the last few years yet have a squad so shit and nowhere near deserving of that. We have a GM whose actions are made by his emotions rather than sound decision making and a lunatic president who wants us to play like Barca, champagne football bla bla bla yet will invest jack squat in order for us to do so.

Yea yea yea, we are trying to make amends- well too fucking late. Wtf were we doing all these years when we had ample time to correct our mistakes? That's right. Renewing our beloved senatore's contracts with huge payrises....

We seem to have zero plan - just buy who ever is free, cheap and available rather than buy the players the team actually needs. We boast about promoting youth but do zit in that departmenr (watch us sell off Merkel). Constantly moan about stuff rather than actually do something about it and talk big and boast about how we are the most successful club in the world...

For Berlusconi who has been a brilliant businessman, this club has been run like shit from top to bottom....

 

[Sage]

eeyores gone wild


2012-2013 Treble

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Decent?? They have played excellent against the top teams:

thrashed Napoli 3-0, Roma 4-0, Inter twice, Milan 2-0, Lazio 2-1, Fiorentina 5-0. What are you talking about?

its hard to accept the fact, but i think we are the only team that can beat them and that too if ibra is not playing, cuz chilleni just owns him everytime. Anyone who says otherwise, is either a demented prick or just a fanboy. But still i dont believe that they deserve the scudetto, like you said, we have been fucked over by dubious offside calls, clear goals disallowed, shitload of injuries and to make matters worse had UCl to deal with shitcelona who won via an outrageous penalty. I swear if we just had an half decent midfield, we would have beat the daylights out of that pipsqueak team.

 

[Ashish]

eeyores gone wild


2012-2013 Treble

this

lets go milan next year is all ours

 

[Costanza]

Saddest days.

 

[SpartanMilan]

and if Juve add one of the elite CFs they have been linked to (Cavani, RVP, Higuain, Dzeko, etc) that would make them massively dangerous, and even more so with the addition of a couple quality bench players

 

[crazy4milan]

and he has been very flexible with his tactics to put his players in the best position to win, something Al hasnt done

Allegri has done it. I don't like to belittle Juventus merits cause they're there and they deserve to be in that place, but with the squad limitations Allegri has found himself, we're still there not too far behind from Juventus (with a heavy ref decision in between), with squad limitations Conte hasn't really faced (hey you do need lady luck beside you to win, so I'm not gonna throw that in his face either, Juventus did turn around from being a very injury prone team to a very fit one). Allegri has tried to give shape to a team with an unshapable midfield full of players who he has gotten the best of, but that's it.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

People should really stop calling Juve's team mediocre btw. The only thing mediocre in their team is their strikeforce and their bench.

Whereas our entire midfield (bar Van Bommel who haven't been amazing either) is mediocre and so are our FBs

Our bench is also more or less crap

You could say we have better CBs than Juve but even then only in individual quality. As a combination Barzagli and Chiellini have been much better than Nesta - Silva this season....

Juve won the title the moment the two fucks at the head of the management decided 'we are fine as we are' and decided that we did not need major upgrades but only merely cosmetic improvements. It seems to be a recurring theme with those two bozos (still remember the shithole of signings after winning the CL in 2007) and all the two fucks can do is talk about how we will do this and that, buy this guy and that, aim for this and that, and end up doing jack squat...

People may give a reason that we don't have money. I ask - WHY THE FUCK DON'T WE?

We are still one of the highest earning clubs in the world yet our expenses are ******ed. We have the highest wage bill in Serie A (and are amongst the top 5 highest paying clubs in the world) in the last few years yet have a squad so shit and nowhere near deserving of that. We have a GM whose actions are made by his emotions rather than sound decision making and a lunatic president who wants us to play like Barca, champagne football bla bla bla yet will invest jack squat in order for us to do so.

Yea yea yea, we are trying to make amends- well too fucking late. Wtf were we doing all these years when we had ample time to correct our mistakes? That's right. Renewing our beloved senatore's contracts with huge payrises....

We seem to have zero plan - just buy who ever is free, cheap and available rather than buy the players the team actually needs. We boast about promoting youth but do zit in that departmenr (watch us sell off Merkel). Constantly moan about stuff rather than actually do something about it and talk big and boast about how we are the most successful club in the world...

For Berlusconi who has been a brilliant businessman, this club has been run like shit from top to bottom....

. i agree. It happened once after 2007, i presumed that was just an unexpected error in B and G's deceision making, but then it happened again in 09 and certainly seems like its happening again. We are doing basically fuck all, when our squad has always been ageing and instead of buying quality players, we buy fodder pieces of shit. Even smart signings of young talented players might work, but no our dumbasss president is too naive to think that way. There are two options, either B and G should sell the club to someone who actually cares about milan or atleast get rid of all the deadwood in order to invest in better players. We need to stop this family bullshit, thats why other top teams always mock us off late because we keep renewing contracts of all our senatores. Berlu has done a lot for milan, i mean 4 Ucl titles and a lot of scudettos too, but i am really grateful for that but if he doesnt care about the club anymore then he should GTFO.

 

[Xudong]

this

lets go milan next year is all ours

no offense, but that sounded like Inter, or at least that was how we laughed at Inter for about two decades since 1989.

 

[SpartanMilan]

Allegri has done it. I don't like to belittle Juventus merits cause they're there and they deserve to be in that place, but with the squad limitations Allegri has found himself, we're still there not too far behind from Juventus (with a heavy ref decision in between), with squad limitations Conte hasn't really faced (hey you do need lady luck beside you to win, so I'm not gonna throw that in his face either, Juventus did turn around from being a very injury prone team to a very fit one). Allegri has tried to give shape to a team with an unshapable midfield full of players who he has gotten the best of, but that's it.

when has Al done that? we havent used anything other than a 4-3-1-2, we never tried a 3 man backline despite having good personal for it with Silva, Nesta, and Mexes, he has used Dorf and Urby out of position, etc.

The only player that has consistently put in the best position for him to do well is Ibra, which puts a lot of pressure on him and makes us very one dimensional, when Zlatan has a bad day, we are usually in big trouble and lack a plan B

 

[vB9]

People should really stop calling Juve's team mediocre btw. The only thing mediocre in their team is their strikeforce and their bench.

Whereas our entire midfield (bar Van Bommel who haven't been amazing either) is mediocre and so are our FBs

Our bench is also more or less crap

You could say we have better CBs than Juve but even then only in individual quality. As a combination Barzagli and Chiellini have been much better than Nesta - Silva this season....

Juve won the title the moment the two fucks at the head of the management decided 'we are fine as we are' and decided that we did not need major upgrades but only merely cosmetic improvements. It seems to be a recurring theme with those two bozos (still remember the shithole of signings after winning the CL in 2007) and all the two fucks can do is talk about how we will do this and that, buy this guy and that, aim for this and that, and end up doing jack squat...

People may give a reason that we don't have money. I ask - WHY THE FUCK DON'T WE?

We are still one of the highest earning clubs in the world yet our expenses are ******ed. We have the highest wage bill in Serie A (and are amongst the top 5 highest paying clubs in the world) in the last few years yet have a squad so shit and nowhere near deserving of that. We have a GM whose actions are made by his emotions rather than sound decision making and a lunatic president who wants us to play like Barca, champagne football bla bla bla yet will invest jack squat in order for us to do so.

Yea yea yea, we are trying to make amends- well too fucking late. Wtf were we doing all these years when we had ample time to correct our mistakes? That's right. Renewing our beloved senatore's contracts with huge payrises....

We seem to have zero plan - just buy who ever is free, cheap and available rather than buy the players the team actually needs. We boast about promoting youth but do zit in that departmenr (watch us sell off Merkel). Constantly moan about stuff rather than actually do something about it and talk big and boast about how we are the most successful club in the world...

For Berlusconi who has been a brilliant businessman, this club has been run like shit from top to bottom....

That is just beautiful. That touched me that did. I am sorry that this 4rum once banned you.

And abt the "WHY" you ask... its banditry but they try to sell it off as international finance. Nobody is really rich, not ur Berlusconis, not ur Abramovichs... the Arabs r rich but they r dumb, well not dumb they r laundering too. Its 'The Great Game'... look it up.

 

[Sage]

the man city owner is from abu dhabi, they have a lot of oil.


money laundering in italy? nah man, italians don't resort to such corrupted actions.

 

[manutd fan]

the man city owner is from abu dhabi, they have a lot of oil.


money laundering in italy? nah man, italians don't resort to such corrupted actions.

Your country is ruining football

 

[Ash]

That is just beautiful. That touched me that did. I am sorry that this 4rum once banned you.

And abt the "WHY" you ask... its banditry but they try to sell it off as international finance. Nobody is really rich, not ur Berlusconis, not ur Abramovichs... the Arabs r rich but they r dumb, well not dumb they r laundering too. Its 'The Great Game'... look it up.

I was never banned

And people really buy into the dumb Arab rich guy sterotype when the truth is reality couldn't be further. Yea they lucked out with oil but they actually know how to run a business, which is more than I can say for most of the Europeans...

They are smart investors and don't just go into a business venture willy nilly. Otherwise they wouldn't be this rich like they are now....

Just take Man City for example. People said that it will be just another Chelsea aka the owner's plaything but so far it has been the opposite. They have laid down all the foundations to make it a successful and long lasting brand and are actually investing in more than just world class players...

 

[Ash]

Your country is ruining football

Winning the title over Man Utd will be a service to football

 

[vB9]

I was never banned

A thousand apologies, sire.

 

[manutd fan]

Winning the title over Man Utd will be a service to football

You just wait until the cancer that is Manchester City spreads to Serie A. Right now it's only EPL clubs who are having to deal with average squad players wanting 120k a week

 

[Sage]

Your country is ruining football

I disagree, man city getting stronger is actually better for your league.

the stronger the challengers, the stronger the league.

Milan were spending the most back in the late 80s/early 90s, RM have fucked the market in the last 10 years.

man utd have had their fair share of HUGE signings.

 

[Ham3t1899]

People should really stop calling Juve's team mediocre btw. The only thing mediocre in their team is their strikeforce and their bench.

Whereas our entire midfield (bar Van Bommel who haven't been amazing either) is mediocre and so are our FBs

Our bench is also more or less crap

You could say we have better CBs than Juve but even then only in individual quality. As a combination Barzagli and Chiellini have been much better than Nesta - Silva this season....

Juve won the title the moment the two fucks at the head of the management decided 'we are fine as we are' and decided that we did not need major upgrades but only merely cosmetic improvements. It seems to be a recurring theme with those two bozos (still remember the shithole of signings after winning the CL in 2007) and all the two fucks can do is talk about how we will do this and that, buy this guy and that, aim for this and that, and end up doing jack squat...

People may give a reason that we don't have money. I ask - WHY THE FUCK DON'T WE?

We are still one of the highest earning clubs in the world yet our expenses are ******ed. We have the highest wage bill in Serie A (and are amongst the top 5 highest paying clubs in the world) in the last few years yet have a squad so shit and nowhere near deserving of that. We have a GM whose actions are made by his emotions rather than sound decision making and a lunatic president who wants us to play like Barca, champagne football bla bla bla yet will invest jack squat in order for us to do so.

Yea yea yea, we are trying to make amends- well too fucking late. Wtf were we doing all these years when we had ample time to correct our mistakes? That's right. Renewing our beloved senatore's contracts with huge payrises....

We seem to have zero plan - just buy who ever is free, cheap and available rather than buy the players the team actually needs. We boast about promoting youth but do zit in that departmenr (watch us sell off Merkel). Constantly moan about stuff rather than actually do something about it and talk big and boast about how we are the most successful club in the world...

For Berlusconi who has been a brilliant businessman, this club has been run like shit from top to bottom....

All the top teams in Italy except Ladri starting this year loose money every season due to stadium and TV rights to the government and the other 15 clubs. So Berlusconi pays all our debt each year and runs out of money for quality players.. I bet if we had our own stadium we would be in a much better situation. A great example of evolution for Italy is Ladri. Serie A needs to compete with the other big leagues in Europe by Changing laws of its football . its 2012 not the 1990's. Also the Agnelli family have more money than Berlusca.

 

[manutd fan]

I disagree, man city getting stronger is actually better for your league.

the stronger the challengers, the stronger the league.

Milan were spending the most back in the late 80s/early 90s, RM have fucked the market in the last 10 years.

man utd have had their fair share of HUGE signings.

All from money we've generated ourselves though, and wages are more of a killer than transfer fees.

When you've got Gael Clichy on 100k a week, with an agent who was paid about £4M, you know you have problems.

Chelsea inflated the market, City have blown it out the water. Teams can't compete, so they either spend more money than they can afford and end up going bankrupt or simply drop behind.

City aren't helping the EPL at all.

 

[vB9]

RM have fucked the market in the last 10 years.

man utd have had their fair share of HUGE signings.

RM do bend over market over, but Utd must also accept blame, sure, it was a one off 4 Utd, but there is no need to sell a player 4 80M quid. Not even Zizzu went 4 that amount. I say place a transfer limit of 50M.

Point 2: Utd have had "HUGE" inflated fees 4 British signings... hardly a "HUGE" name they made, Veron was 1... Berba 2, (lets not count 10-15M as huge signings) Rooney 3, I'll count Ronaldo he was sumthin like 17M so that 4, Rio 5, Cole was expensive so 6, cant remember Yorke, I think it was in the teens his price.

 

[Maldini_3]

so who's to blame for us sucking ass this year?

 

[vB9]

so who's to blame for us sucking ass this year?

A lot of ppl... top to bottom.