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How do you think Ibrahimović's 2011-2012 season at Milan will go?


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Its probably a bad idea to answer with something completely irrelevant to my post and act like its relevant; I might make you look stupid.

I´ll give you another chance.

My friend, don't put up an empty threat. Bring it.
Ronaldo is a better player than Ibra was or ever will be.
I just put up some quick facts as to why.
 

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Umm City wanted to make him footballs highest earner again, but he rejected and choose Milan and B&G's "project".. Maybe he feels he did a mistake.. Since B clearly doesnt want to spend..

yeah wtf was that project thing/talk about? i mean the dude joined in 2010 and there hasn't been a lot of improvement since
 

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From a Wegerup editorial:

Does Zlatan want to leave Milan?

-The transfer market was clearly a disappointment. Milan played high and lost with Carlos Tevez. A useful lesson for the summer market.

-Is Zlatan form in decline? Not at all, he is in brilliant form. But, as I said, too lonely on top right now. Mediaset yesterday termed Milan's first half like this: "Ibrahimovic 0 Napoli 0". They felt Ibra was the only one performing.

-The players are worn out after the winter camp and with the tough schedule. Look at the other top teams yesterday: Juve draw, Lazio loss, loss Udinese, Inter resounding loss. Only Roma performed.

So considering this would Zlatan want to go away? Did the expulsion come because he is tired and frustrated and disappointed with the lack of transfers?

Not at all. Believe me, I know from a very reliable sources, Zlatan is not going away, he's not keen on Real Madrid.

Remember last spring: "Ibra" was expelled, suspended, played a little worse. Immediately came the rumors that he wanted to go to Real or City. And what happens? Where's he playing now?

Sometimes there's a lot of smoke without fire ....

http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/kronikorer/wegerup/article14322457.ab


From her blog:

Zlatan doesn't want to leave Milan.
Raoila's just chatting and then Italian media makes something out of it.
Believe me, I know from a very reliable sources that he doesn't want to leave
 

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So Zlatan is just a idiot if we are to believe Wegerup? Good to know
 

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yeah wtf was that project thing/talk about? i mean the dude joined in 2010 and there hasn't been a lot of improvement since

Robinho, Cassano, Van Bommel, Emmanuelson, Taiwo, Mexes, Aquilani. Hindsight it looks poor but at the time (with all of their names carrying weight) I am sure Ibra was fine.

This season Tevez - when that fell through and others haven't panned out it is only reasonable for a player to be frustrated.
 

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So your number one source is someone who has a very reliable source?
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Not that its clear that wegerup is right on the subject but to dissbelief she has a realiable source would be kinda dumb considering how long she has been around ibra.

Give me a better source that says otherwise, that ibra is leaving...
I mean other than our fellow forumists speculation based on some statement raiola made cause frankly that dont amount to much crediablity imo.
 

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Hows so? Apart from the raiola talk? Wich could be a good thing..

Getting himself into a situation like this again. Not that bright is it?
 

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So your number one source is someone who has a very reliable source?
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Is this for me?

I've never claimed or pretended to have any sources :rolleyes:, I just posted some quotes from a journalist covering Milan for Gazzetta dello Sport and Aftonbladet.

Wegerup does have good sources though, she wrote about the Maldini thing months before he gave his interview for example, I actually wrote about that in the Maldini thread just some days before his interview came out.
 

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Ibra's actions happened at the end of the match, really there is no other explanation than, STUPIDITY, and peasant mentality to describe what he did and does in general... This player never deserved to wear a Milan shirt, he is simply below standards.. Milan is not just about skill, Milan is a school, like Harvard, Princeton and Yale... Creme de la Creme... he is not the full package, character plays a big part of the players ability, that is why the likes of Maldini and Baresi will never be emulated again, these are Milan players.

Our midfield is basically formed by badass players. Guys like Bommel and Gattuso are hated all around the football world. They got celebrity status of "vilain" for the rest of football fans. At some point this also the case of Flamini, Boateng (like the Ballack case) and Muntari - their track record with rough/violent play is very, very extense. Ambro, Yepes, they ain't exactly gentlemans either.

Our attack is full of players with reputation of nutcases like Ibra and Cassano, unecessary to go further here. So goes the problems with Robinho, he came here under accusations of disloyalty and stuff like that.

I don't really know were do you see Harvard (or any elitist stuff) here. Our players are fighters, a lot of them had a rough patch to be here. They play the "we against all" card, they're not trying to set examples for the kids or being more moral than the others.
 

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Getting himself into a situation like this again. Not that bright is it?

Im not sure what situation your are referring to, the bann from the slap?
Or the (so far) unfounded talk about him changing clubs?

Either alt doesent really make him look dumb imo tho, why y think so?

Slap was spur of the moment, standing up for noce. Not that big of a deal imo just unlucky to get red from it. Typical ibra move nothing outragous about it imo.

The Raiola talk would be either to put preassure on management to invest and improve the team wich imo seem like a good thing, surely we cant go on for long with this squad thinking we will conquer europe any time soon. If the Raiola talk is because he really wants to change teams cause he sees milan as a deadend for him with no improvements i fail to c how letting the world know theres a potential of singing him this summer makes him look dumb?
 

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oh my god even nesta fights hard when its crazy out there ... i want joe jordan .. flamini ... violence next week.. so in a mood for a fight .. this time of year pubs are full of love ... but i need some butchering in champions league

bommel nesta ambro ibra .. instant team red card :cool:

We are not an angel team ffs look at our colors we look like we came straight out of hell for some breakfast ... yes sven i like your post ... more violence ... i think its time to run to a store to buy a milan jersey with scudetto patch .. i dont want to wait till next season :o:o
 

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Surely I cannot be the only one who shakes his head at the "sticking up for Nocerino" BS.

Nocerino is a man. A fairly tough one at that. he can handle his own shit.

Ibra didn't "come to his defense", he swooped in because he is the center of the universe.
 

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Our midfield is basically formed by badass players. Guys like Bommel and Gattuso are hated all around the football world. They got celebrity status of "vilain" for the rest of football fans. At some point this also the case of Flamini, Boateng (like the Ballack case) and Muntari - their track record with rough/violent play is very, very extense. Ambro, Yepes, they ain't exactly gentlemans either.

Our attack is full of players with reputation of nutcases like Ibra and Cassano, unecessary to go further here. So goes the problems with Robinho, he came here under accusations of disloyalty and stuff like that.

I don't really know were do you see Harvard (or any elitist stuff) here. Our players are fighters, a lot of them had a rough patch to be here. They play the "we against all" card, they're not trying to set examples for the kids or being more moral than the others.

I wish we had Nigel de Jong :D
 

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Surely I cannot be the only one who shakes his head at the "sticking up for Nocerino" BS.

Nocerino is a man. A fairly tough one at that. he can handle his own shit.

Ibra didn't "come to his defense", he swooped in because he is the center of the universe.

You think ibra would have made that slap if it wasent for noce beeing "handled" in that situation?

Did he have some other motives? It is possible standing up for others make him feel good about himself? Sure, just like it does with many other ppl who stand up for other ppl in fotball or life. To say that ibra dident stand up for his teammate just because it was ibra is complete bs. So what if he also possibly gained some sense of worth or whatever for doing it. Kinda besides the point. Very few ppl in this world does anything for anybody for purely unselfish reasons.
 

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You think ibra would have made that slap if it wasent for noce beeing "handled" in that situation?

Did he have some other motives? It is possible standing up for others make him feel good about himself? Sure, just like it does with many other ppl who stand up for other ppl in fotball or life. To say that ibra dident stand up for his teammate just because it was ibra is complete bs. So what if he also possibly gained some sense of worth or whatever for doing it. Kinda besides the point. Very few ppl in this world does anything for anybody for purely unselfish reasons.

Slow your role, Yogi.
Ibra MADE himself part of the issue, and he didn't need to be.
He didn't NEED a 3 game suspension.
he didn't NEED to be out for a 6pt game vs Juve
He didn't NEED to defend a perfectly capable man, in Nocerino.

he chose to do it. he wanted to do it. and now, can deal with the fall out
 

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Slow your role, Yogi.
Ibra MADE himself part of the issue, and he didn't need to be.
He didn't NEED a 3 game suspension.
he didn't NEED to be out for a 6pt game vs Juve
He didn't NEED to defend a perfectly capable man, in Nocerino.

he chose to do it. he wanted to do it. and now, can deal with the fall out

How bout actually reponding to the issue/post instead of listing ibras punishments. I kinda think most of us know these by now. But hey i guess it trumphs reasoning?

Nevermind responding, pointless.
 

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How bout actually reponding to the issue/post instead of listing ibras punishments. I kinda think most of us know these by now. But hey i guess it trumphs reasoning?

Nevermind responding, pointless.

It IS the point you baffoon!!!!

the objective of being a world class player is HELPING THE TEAM WIN.

Whatever man, trying to talk to any Scandinavian about Ibra is like getting a North Korean to talk shit about Kimmy J
 

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It IS the point you baffoon!!!!

the objective of being a world class player is HELPING THE TEAM WIN.

Whatever man, trying to talk to any Scandinavian about Ibra is like getting a North Korean to talk shit about Kimmy J

It wasent to the point you brought up at all..

You said you dident buy the IBRA WAS STANDING UP FOR HIS TEAMMATE. That was the issue you brought up not the punishment that we allrdy know all to well.

Changing trumphs to the fanboy card now eh? Please, getting old.
 

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LOL at all the haters banging their heads to the wall.
Some of you have brains but just don't use them (Madridista), some don't have brains and are so angry about that you just hate everything and everyone (you know who you are).

Ibra is not going to leave Milan. He doesn't want to leave Milan. Wegerup is a very good source. Raiola is talking because Ibra is disappointed with the squad, and Berlusconi not spending. The slap for which he got the red card was stupid, but not the end of the world. Shit happens. Now you noobs try to make him pointing a finger into another slap, a new drama queen scandal, and you search different camera angles, photos, you browse Youtube for hours trying to find something. Lol at you.

Ibra is better than ever. Better than last season, better than ever before. He has not hit bad form, at least not yet. He's been man of the match this season more times than you jerks can count. Stats put him top 3-4 in Europe, very close to Messi and Cristina. But as it is with the haters, it takes one not perfect game, one questionable action, a little of anything that isn't perfect, for them to climb out from their dark caves. Pathetic.
 
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It wasent to the point you brought up at all..

You said you dident buy the IBRA WAS STANDING UP FOR HIS TEAMMATE. That was the issue you brought up not the punishment that we allrdy know all to well.

Changing trumphs to the fanboy card now eh? Please, getting old.

Do you have a light-switch that I can flip to the "on" position?

I'm going to give you the Coles Notes version of my argument, since it seems to be far too intense (which it isn't, at all,) for you to understand.

- Ibra wanted to be involved, hence why he was
- He got involved moreso because he is the center of the universe, than to defend a man who is perfectly capable of doing so himself
- he got involved KNOWING it is a red-cardable offense, thus being suspended
- he KNOWS he has a track record of suspensions, and thus would likely get more than 1 game
- he KNOWS we have a schedule from hell to contend with in the coming week, yet STILL gets involved.

My point is, his affection for being the "badboy" trumps his affection for the team.
There's no arguing this, because he may have just cost us the Scudetto, after basically helping carry us there.

Do. you. Understand?
 

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I`m about to drop my truest of feelings on this matter. Some may agree, most probably won`t. But here it goes.

If Zlatan is the fearless badass he claims to be, I hope he does the following. Yes, hope. *keep in mind, this will fuck us short term, benefit(?) us long term).

Zlatan needs to personally and publicly call out both Berlusconi and Galliani for empty promises. He needs to, on record, point out every single issue he has with our management, what he was promised, and what was actually delivered.

Following this, he needs to leave the team, immediately.

BOOM, we are fucked.

Berlusconi, for the maybe the first time in his life, gets publicly humiliated by the current face of his franchise. Perhaps even Silva follows suit (though Id hope he doesn't get as wild, and opts to stay)

Ibra may be the ONLY player (as much as I hate to admit it) who can start a revolution at Milan. Things need to change from the top down.

management/ownership first. I can deal with a subpar Milan for a few years if it means a massive change in organizational mentality. I really can. At least I'll KNOW things are going to improve, whereas at the moment, I see us falling further and further, year by year.

Zlatan is in the twilight of his dominance. He can do one last memorable thing in his career, and that's to help reform the once mighty Milan.

he may never win a Champions League, but he'll still have marked his stamp in history with a move like this.

Cocaine is a helluva drug... But I'm dead serious.
Enough small talk, something BIG needs to go down.

God that was some nice speech.. :proud::thumbsup:
Could Ibra be the man who without winning a single champions league becomes one of the greatest legend of a 7 time european champion?:eek:

can we loan matterazzzi? :lol: :p

bring back vinnie jones and paolo di canio out of retirement and get roy keane too!:tongue:
Lets do ugly football properly :D
meanwhile, villa had a similar first season but everyone was jizzing furiously

No one would give a shit about villa either, just the fact that he scored a scorcher in champs league final. But he also had problems with being pushed out of position before he got injured and the form of fabregas and alexis means he will have his work cut out now to get into the starting lineup
 
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