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EXCL. @acmilan has submitted an offer to @WestHam for Jean-Clair #Todibo, who is also being followed by @SSCNapoli.

The #Hammers are asking for 5 million for the loan, plus an obligation to buy for 24 million that would trigger after 10 appearances.

For the wages, figures similar to those of #Badiashile from @Chelsea (another Napoli target) who however has lower transfer costs.

At the moment Napoli, unlike Milan, has not yet started talks with West Ham for Todibo, despite the exploratory contacts had with the defender's entourage.

AC Milan have submitted an offer for Jean-Clair Todibo. West Ham are asking for a €5m loan fee plus a €24m obligation to buy. @areanapoliit



He was pretty good at Nice, but failed in premier league, no thx.
Same with Badiashile, good at Monaco, bad in premier league, also a shit load of injuries, what probably ruined his career. He played 42 premier league games in 4 season haha, stay far away from this dude.
 
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Since gattuso and nesta retired, I haven’t truly loved a player. Everybody is means to end for the club. I have beautiful memories of players who just went psychopathic crazy with effort. Tomori for 2 years, Rafael for 3.5 games, giroud for a season, krunic Rebic KPB(debut season) strasser bommel etc.

When it comes to selling a player especially one who doesn’t respect our colors

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Ranieri said the youth programs focus too much on tactics and not enough on technique, that's something that all of us agree with. Added that they can get away with it in the Under squads and still win but it won't help them later.

Wants to see improved dribbling, get the foot more familiar with the ball and has appointed Gianfranco Zola in charge of the new strategy for the young ones. These imo are positive steps promoted by an old dude in age but not mentality. It reminds me of me. :o
 
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Bro this is a community of mostly middle aged Milan fans that are left over from the prime Berlusconi era. I treasure this place and the interactions I have here, there aren’t any Milan fans where I live and mostly everyone I know calls me the F word or worse for even liking this sport.

If you don’t like something that is being discussed, tell your bros to shut the fuck up and move on.

But don’t get disenchanted with this place, this forum is all that’s good in the world of men.
I too get disenchanted by the stuff he points out.

But I will never leave :)
 
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Milan's top scorer is openly on the market, but nobody (other than a Turkish club) wants to touch him with a 10ft pole
 
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Ranieri said the youth programs focus too much on tactics and not enough on technique, that's something that all of us agree with.
it made sense when quality was enormous and Italian tactics were not some backwater level.

Now they parrot tactics for control and inflexibility to change. As long as Italians doesn’t go for full youth movement in league and national team with freedom to fail nothing will happen to them. Variance in this league is absymasl.

All they can pray for is occasional Greece 2004 euro.
 
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Milan's top scorer is openly on the market, but nobody (other than a Turkish club) wants to touch him with a 10ft pole
Would you buy for him for 35 million with those expected wages and terrible attitude with potential decline in his acceleration?
 
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Trying to move away from the usual polemics for a moment and actually talk some football again. 😄

I was looking at our squad and wondering: if the season started tomorrow, what would Amorim's starting XI actually look like? I think it would be something close to this:

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And looking at it like this, there are three areas that immediately worry me. The biggest one is the back three.

Gila is obviously a starter and probably the defender who currently fits Amorim's football best. We already saw glimpses of it in the friendly, but we knew this before Amorim even arrived: his CBs need to be much more than defenders. A lot of the build-up starts with them. They need to recognise and play passes between the lines, break the opponent's first pressing line and create advantages from deep. Right now, Gila is the only one I really trust to do that consistently.

The problem is that most of our other CBs were basically built for Allegri-ball. They became accustomed to defending deep, protecting relatively little space behind them and leaving much of the actual build-up to a midfielder dropping alongside them. With three midfielders, that was often Modric. Under Amorim, that responsibility shifts considerably. The CBs themselves have to create.

I've put De Winter in there because I think he's probably the one I trust most after Gila in that regard. If I remember correctly, he even played in midfield during his Juve youth days and you can see some of that in his game.

Pavlovic gets the other spot because he was basically an undisputed starter last season. I actually like his ability to carry the ball forward. He's powerful, has a good burst and can eat up metres quickly. But in a much higher defensive line, that's less important. I don't need him charging 30 metres up the pitch as often. I need him to open the game from the back and consistently find the right pass under pressure. That's a very different job and definitely not his strength.

The second major hole for me is RAM. We simply don't have a natural player for that position right now. I've put Pulisic there because I trust him much more than Nkunku on the right. We've already seen Pulisic play very well starting from the right wing, so the transition shouldn't be completely alien to him.

The irony is that Amorim has already talked about how perfectly suited Pulisic is to the left side of his system – and I completely agree with him. That's exactly where I'd want him too. But unless someone arrives for the right, I almost think we're forced to sacrifice that and play Pulisic there, with Nkunku on the left.

So for me another attacking midfielder, preferably someone naturally comfortable on the right, is an absolute mercato priority. Get that player and suddenly you can have Pulisic, Nkunku and Cissé competing on the left while actually having a proper solution on the right.

Then there are the wingbacks. Saelemaekers is probably the only one I feel completely comfortable with. Left or right, doesn't really matter to me. He's two-footed, can dribble, cross, combine, attack space and even has some goal threat. He just looks like a very natural Amorim wingback. After him, though? Lots of question marks.

We all know Chukwueze has basically one foot, and Serie A defenders figured that out pretty quickly two years ago. I can live with him as an option from the bench, but I really wouldn't want to enter the season relying on him as a starting wingback.

Athekame is interesting. I actually liked quite a lot of what I saw last season – especially his 1v1s, crossing and even his willingness to attack the box. But he's still extremely young and raw. Maybe Amorim turns him into exactly what we need, but that's a lot of faith to put into a kid at this stage. And Estupiñán is... well, Estupiñán. He doesn't exactly fill me with confidence either. 😅 So another proper wingback would be very high on my list.

Interestingly, I'm much less worried about striker and midfield – mainly because I'd really like us to commit to something we've talked about for years: actually giving our young players a path into the first team. Ramos is the obvious starter at CF. Behind him, I'd happily go into the season with Camarda as his deputy rather than buying another player who blocks his path. Give the kid minutes. Give him opportunities. Give him some patience when he inevitably has bad games. If we genuinely want to avoid another Liberali situation, at some point "trusting the youth" has to become more than something we say after losing them.

Same with Comotto. I genuinely see him as Modric's deputy. There's something about his style that reminds me of an incredibly young and obviously much, much rawer Modric. Let him learn behind him. That's exactly the kind of situation we should be creating for these kids. Ricci, meanwhile, I just don't see in this system at all. I'd sell him tomorrow if there was a decent offer. Fofana I can live with keeping if we can't sell him, although I'd still rather see those minutes go towards Comotto. And RLC should absolutely be sold.

On the left, Rabiot obviously starts. But Jashari as his deputy makes perfect sense to me. That's basically the role in which he made his name at Brugge and became one of the most coveted young midfielders in Europe. We even saw what he could do there in the CL against Atalanta. With his strong left foot, he also looks much more natural on that side than on the right.

So if the season started tomorrow, my priorities for a realistic mercato would be pretty clear:

A ball-playing CB to replace either Pavlovic or De Winter, a natural right-sided attacking midfielder and another starting-quality wingback. Do that and suddenly I think the starting 11 starts looking considerably more coherent for Amorim. And rather than filling every remaining gap with another €20m signing, I'd much rather leave some deliberate space for Camarda, Comotto, Jashari, Cissè and Athekame to actually develop.

Otherwise we can talk about "Milan Futuro" and our great youth project until we're blue in the face – and then wonder again why the next Liberali decides his future is somewhere else.
That's all fair, if the season started tomorrow...

We obviously need a starter ahead of Chuk, a starting midfielder because going into another season with a now 401 year old Modric isn't the answer.

If ChuK is honestly back up, what do we do with Athekame? He's too good for 3rd back up, and isn't suited to a back 3???

We need someone alongside Pulisic or Nkunku, I'm not sure we rely on this pair as our starters. Injuries and form worry me. Get another starter and see out the three which two turn into diamonds and who stays coal.

The CBs, at this point we got so many options, but you could easily sell half of them and start from scratch as far as I'm concerned.

As I see it, 3 holes in the starting line up.
 
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Milan's top scorer is openly on the market, but nobody (other than a Turkish club) wants to touch him with a 10ft pole
I still think he may very well end up in a top club due to unexpected circumstances (long term injury in the last days of August, big LW moving to another team seemingly out of nowhere, big LW deal collapsing like Diomande to Real/PSG and the other team hitting the panick buy button to calm down the spirits, etc.) but the current situation does say a lot about him right now. Openly on the market, price is nothing for at least 10-15 teams in Europe, peak football age and it's only Turkish teams interested. Maybe Saudi too although with the ongoing conflict they seem less inclined to spend like crazy.

I think he himself realizes this and will try to postpone the move to Turkey for as long as possible hoping that the abovementioned scenario pans out nicely for him.

In the end he may fall upwards to PSG/Barcelona/Bayern like Eric Dier and win a CL soon :lol:
 
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I think he will probably be the most important presence in the squad.

If we're being honest we are a club in need of a 6 time CL winner who can still ball at 41. He led this team in culture last season, together with Rabiot.
He was never the primary reason as to why they won ucl. He had a great career but he was never the absolute best in his team and definitely not the world in any of those ucl wins. Ronnie, bale benzi carried the team.

Just cause you had a greater career, it doesn’t automatically make you the best player or even a great player.

There are average players who won loads of titles as well cause the team was too strong and were able to carry such passengers.
 
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He was never the primary reason as to why they won ucl. He had a great career but he was never the absolute best in his team and definitely not the world in any of those ucl wins. Ronnie, bale benzi carried the team.

Just cause you had a greater career, it doesn’t automatically make you the best player or even a great player.

There are average players who won loads of titles as well cause the team was too strong and were able to carry such passengers.
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I'm looking forward to Gerry arriving at Milanello by Segway next week trying to unlock our Mercato...
 
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Unpopular opinion on here but we have some serious talent at this club. In fact we might have e some of thw best u20 players in the world. Question is can we turn them into some of th best over 20 talents.
 
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Kostic is more talented and it will show this season.
Or perhaps both will have good seasons and give Milan options and proper rotation on the striker front.
 
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lol at Modric being the best in the world in his prime

Fuck outta here

I watched all these fucks. He was never the absolute best lmao

If he wants to get into my all time top 5

Win the scudetto this season bitch *****.

When people think of best ever mids. Modric would never be the first one on the list.

There is atleast minimum 5 6 ahead of him. And I am being generous.

Another myth just like how epl is the hardest league lmao. What a joke hahahahahaa
 
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Unpopular opinion on here but we have some serious talent at this club. In fact we might have e some of thw best u20 players in the world. Question is can we turn them into some of th best over 20 talents.
Given proper game time and rotation is the only way to answer that question. Occasional cameos for a few minutes here and there will tell us nothing.
 
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Milan, survey for Ethan Nwaneri.

On the Arsenal footballer there are also Leipzig, Everton and Fulham.


 
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Unpopular opinion on here but we have some serious talent at this club. In fact we might have e some of thw best u20 players in the world. Question is can we turn them into some of the best u 20 talent
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Read abt Franco last night, been shaking ever since... listen all of youse, bow in prostration and start praying until there's good news
 
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Read abt Franco last night, been shaking ever since... listen all of youse, bow in prostration and start praying until there's good news
Franco Baresi is tough as nails, but all the same we are all wishing him well and to get through his current situation.
 
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is Russian gas still flowing to Italy... If yes, then I don't get the drama over Pirlo's links to sum betting company
 
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Seems like there is some movement for the AM.

After CF and CB were wrapped up, I had thought a great WB would have been next priority. For now nothing on that front at all.
 
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