The Rumour Commode XLI: Ragnarok

[papaberlu]

Samu was better than Suso

 

[Qaas]

So why isn’t he lighting it up at Sevilla?

They got a pretty consistent squad that’s won 2 Europa Leagues while he’s there.

Recent 2 seasons can be chalked up to injuries but his first season with them he played lots of minutes and had Messias level contributions (4g 4a)

24 hours ago

 

[Panache]

Done

Tell me one player who was “consistent” during our banter era?

And I’m not talking consistently shit.

 

[Samaldinho]

I can admit i got that one wrong.

You are a gentleman.

I guess moron is a nice word..
But hey am loving this side of you. You are giving me personality

I like to paint vistas with my insults, so yes, it is nice in comparison to the alternative.

 

[Curupira]

When I originally read his quote, I didn’t see that last line. “Would it have been shared by the owners”? It does sound like Maldini backed off because the owners wouldn’t want to sign an “older” player. Terrible decision when a player like him is available for free.

Yeah unfortunately that theory goes out the window when you consider the fact that Dybala was only 28yo (which is exactly the same age as Origi+Baka). Also, they don't have a problem with a 36yo as our main striker.

This ones all on Maldini.

I don't think age is the only factor here. Dybala doesn't quite fit the wing positions and we don't really play with an SS.

 

[Omer]

24 hours ago

Even Saladmaker had 2 goals in CL this season! Suso, Salad, Messias are all mediocre. But yeah, Elliott should have let the Suso money be spent on a better RW than Saladmaker!

 

[papaberlu]

I can't believe we have Suso orphans in 2023

what have we become

 

[Curupira]

You had it out for Bennacer from day one, it's literally your worst take, by far.

Now that I think about it. I'm trying to think of a Muslim player you like...

Honestly he made quite a few mistakes but was active and physical enough so they weren't overly noticeable.

I think he's an improvement from Biglia in certain situations, but he certainly isn't our savior like many make him out to be, at least not yet.

I hope he gets more chances to grow and continue to improve

That's my first post in Bennacer thread"had it out for him from day one"...bruh . Still not our savior, at least not yet even after getting more chances to grow and continue to improve.

Secondly, I am not sure who else is Muslim on the squad now or before. I am sure if you gave me a list I can pick out some that I've liked

 

[Curupira]

24 hours ago

This like Pingu showing Giroud goal videos to you. It's still though

 

[Kojak]

I don't think age is the only factor here. Dybala doesn't quite fit the wing positions and we don't really play with an SS.

If we can sign a predominantly CF (CDK) for AM and use Pobega, Benny + Krunic in that position then a highly experienced player like Dybala is more than capable of doing the same. Alternatively, we could've just modified the formation to accomodate him @ SS.

 

[Samaldinho]

That's my first post in Bennacer thread"had it out for him from day one"...bruh . Still not our savior, at least not yet even after getting more chances to grow and continue to improve.

Your Bennacer takes are so bad, people thought you were joking about it. Just to put things into perspective for you.

Secondly, I am not sure who else is Muslim on the squad now or before. I am sure if you gave me a list I can pick out some that I've liked

Thiaw, Adli, Bakayoko, and FBT. Hey, FBT would pair really well with your taste in Tata, like a red and a steak? (I don't drink I dunno if this is accurate).

 

[sheva]

If we had milans Suso against inter, they wouldn’t have slapped us like they did this year

 

[Omer]

It seems many charges are put on Juve besides the transfer dealings lies and fake accounting! It could be worse than the earlier 15 points.

Juventus and seven directors charged for ‘salary manoeuvres’ - the full details - Football Italia

Juventus and seven of their former or current directors including Andrea Agnelli and Fabio Paratici have been charged by the FIGC for their alleged usage of

football-italia.net

The FIGC’s explanation of the first salary manoeuvre:

“As regards the 2019-20 salary manoeuvre, Andrea Agnelli and Fabio Paratici are accused of violating art. 4, paragraph 1, of the Sports Justice Code (“principles of fairness, correctness and probity”), for having deposited with the Lega Serie A the agreements to reduce 4 monthly salaries (March, April, May and June 2020) of 21 players (Bentancur, Bernardeschi, Bonucci, Chiellini, Cuadrado, Danilo, De Ligt, De Sciglio, Demiral, Douglas Costa, Dybala, Higuain, Khedira, Alex Sandro, Matuidi, Pjanic, Rabiot, Ramsey, Cristiano Ronaldo, Rugani, Szczesny) and coach Sarri, failing to deposit the economic agreements of integration or recovery of 3 of the 4 waived monthly salaries (April, May, June 2020) already concluded with the same players and with the coach, in the knowledge that the economic agreements containing the salary integrations for the recovery of the waived monthly salaries would be deposited after June 30 2020, i.e. after the closure of the accounting year on June 30 2020, as then actually happened.”


The FIGC’s explanation of the second salary manoeuvre:

“The same violation, and in this case among the executives under investigation is also Pavel Nedved, is contested for the 2020-21 season, in relation to the salary reduction agreements of amounts substantially equal to 4 monthly payments (March, April, May and June 2020) of 17 players (Bentancur, Bernardeschi, Bonucci, Chiesa, Cuadrado, Danilo, Kulusevski, Alex Sandro, McKennie, Rabiot, Szczesny, Demiral, Ramsey, Arthur, Chiellini, Dybala, Cristiano Ronaldo) in the knowledge that there would be no actual reduction in salary, since the same amounts would be paid to the same players (a circumstance that did not occur only for Dybala and Cristiano Ronaldo) in the following football seasons, as already agreed between the parties through private agreements not recorded on federal forms (the so-called ‘side letters’).


The FIGC’s explanation of the agents’ agreements:

“With regard to the third line of investigation, that relating to relations with agents, Agnelli, Paratici, Nedved, and also Cherubini, Manna, Morganti, Braghin, each within their respective spheres of competence, are charged with violation of art. 4, paragraph 1, of the Sports Justice Code, for having violated the principles of fairness, correctness and probity, both autonomously and in violation and/or avoidance of the provisions of art. 6.2, paragraph 7, of the Regulations of Sports Agents of the FIGC and in concurrence with some agents in relation to a series of transfers, contract renewals or signing of professional contracts.

“In these different situations between 2015 and 2022, according to the Prosecutor’s Office the club would have remunerated sports agents for player transfer transactions in the absence of any real intermediation activity of the agent; would have used, in relation to the transfer of certain players, a sports agent without any mandate; or in other cases would have given a ‘fictitious/untrue’ mandate to another agent or they would have remunerated an agent with a fee in the absence of a real intermediation activity in order to compensate and settle the debts owed to the agent for the negotiation of another football player who at the material time was a minor or ‘young player’ (for whom, therefore, no fee could have been agreed).

 

[Curupira]

Your Bennacer takes are so bad, people thought you were joking about it. Just to put things into perspective for you.

Oh please, people do that shit every day to shit they disagree with. Especially someone as dramatic as ahemahem.

And what do you expect from the same place that consistently rates Bennacer as one of top 3 players, that's the truly hilarious thing

Thiaw, Adli, Bakayoko, and FBT. Hey, FBT would pair really well with your taste in Tata, like a red and a steak? (I don't drink I dunno if this is accurate).

I took my L on this one already Mfer going to be napping in the stand while I take heat for him here

Im also pretty fond of Thiaw and Adli, definitely not admitting to anti-Muslim bias Bennacer is just "mid"

 

[Panache]

I don't think age is the only factor here. Dybala doesn't quite fit the wing positions and we don't really play with an SS.

BS. As if CDK and Origi fit anywhere on the pitch.

 

[Curupira]

As if CDK and Origi fit anywhere on the pitch.

You right you right.

But ON PAPER, at least Origi was a CF. Not sure what happened with Cdk though

 

[sheva]

Oh please, people do that shit every day to shit they disagree with. Especially someone as dramatic as ahemahem.

And what do you expect from the same place that consistently rates Bennacer as one of top 3 players, that's the truly hilarious thing


I took my L on this one already Mfer going to be napping in the stand while I take heat for him here

Definitely not admitting to anti-Muslim bias

adli checking his phone for ramadan fasting break time while you berate him or have we forgot about that?

 

[Qaas]

I can't believe we have Suso orphans in 2023

what have we become

Thats what happens when you don’t replace someone
Do you see anyone talk about Donnarumma?

 

[Panache]

You right you right.

But ON PAPER, at least Origi was a CF. Not sure what happened with Cdk though

It’s clear Maldini wanted him but was told to back off because of his age.

Good players can force a slight formation change. Bad players will try forever and never make an impact at their “preferred position”. I rather have good players than bad players that “fit a role on paper”

 

[Curupira]

adli checking his phone for ramadan fasting break time while you berate him or have we forgot about that?

HEY!

I took that back once I found out he was scrolling for Sam's posts on why he should play and Sam was AWOL so it took longer than usual.

 

[Panache]

Thats what happens when you don’t replace someone
Do you see anyone talk about Donnarumma?

EXACTLY.

 

[Alo88]

I probably misspoke and meant that Origi and Dybala would have cost about the same. Didn't know much about Origi but worried about his injury history especially since we had Ibra who's always out and Giroud who's 37. I always rated Dybala highly and thought the opportunity to add a proven champion at a discount price would have been a great addition to an already pretty formidable roster, (didn't know that most would regress). Imagine Dybala taking free kicks and corners.....how much that would have helped. But it's water under the bridge and if Milan performed in Serie A as expected/hoped we wouldn't be having this conversation.

People who were against the Dybala signing never questioned his talent but his injury history and whether he's finished or not. And in fact Dybala has missed 17 games this season alone for Roma, which is almost half a season if you think about it. Imagine him with Piolis butchers, I mean we've seen what they did to Origi, didn't we

I think the whole discussion boils down to how much of a non-factor CDK has been (while Dybala had a huge impact in the much fewer games he was at disposal). We wouldn't discuss Dybala now if CDK would have contributed at least half of what even the most pessimistic posters like me feared he would. This season it was like throwing 35M out of the window that we lacked in every other department and getting a great nothing in return.

Origi on the other hand while arriving on high wages profits from decreto crescita and 0 ammortisation. He doesn't weight as much to our payroll as people probably think.

 

[Samaldinho]

If we can sign a predominantly CF (CDK) for AM and use Pobega, Benny + Krunic in that position then a highly experienced player like Dybala is more than capable of doing the same. Alternatively, we could've just modified the formation to accomodate him @ SS.

Dybala would have been better than CDK this last year, hell, Brahim has been better than CDK this year. It seems that his 4.5m (if true) salary comes with 2m in bonuses, making him a 6.5m player, though, I think that changes the calculus on him a little bit, no?

I've never been a fan of CDK, even though I want him (and any player here) to explode, but I remember Juve fans being really annoyed with Dybala because he couldn't play as a CAM when they deployed a 4231 and that he wasn't enough of a CAM for them, and couldn't really play as a RW either.

I think the current Roma system is good for him, as it allows him to operate in a more natural role, as would Inter's 352. I just don't think he would be a great fit, but neither is Brahim nor CDK, lol.

 

[papaberlu]

Thats what happens when you don’t replace someone
Do you see anyone talk about Donnarumma?

I wouldn't really take him now either. Also his replacement was effectively kebab

Unless he was scoring screamers he was an overall detriment to the team and the team played dramatically better with him off

 

[Samaldinho]

Oh please, people do that shit every day to shit they disagree with. Especially someone as dramatic as ahemahem.

And what do you expect from the same place that consistently rates Bennacer as one of top 3 players, that's the truly hilarious thing

It's not just RnB, my friend. You have very few allies in your anti-Bennacer position. It seems your only allies are the types of guys who put their height in their Twitter bios and think that gives them personality.

Im also pretty fond of Thiaw and Adli, definitely not admitting to anti-Muslim bias Bennacer is just "mid"

Hm, those are helpful takes...

What do you think about Khabib?

 

[Samaldinho]

I wouldn't really take him now either. Also his replacement was effectively kebab

Unless he was scoring screamers he was an overall detriment to the team and the team played dramatically better with him off

Welcome to Positivity Force.

 

[Qaas]

It sounds a little bit like he’s trying to say the owners didn’t like Dybala though

 

[Curupira]

It's not just RnB, my friend. You have very few allies in your anti-Bennacer position. It seems your only allies are the types of guys who put their height in their Twitter bios and think that gives them personality.

I don't know dawg, Cloren pointed them out a while back and I am quite confident in my allies' (on Bennacer) qualities over one's who blindly rate Bennacer

And it just so happens Bennacer fanbases are one of the most vocal here (as reflected from the voting), despite him not having much to show for it. Don't show me the goals like Qaas showing Suso goals sam

Quality over quantity

Hm, those are helpful takes...

What do you think about Khabib?

Da Goat

 

[bijo]

crap

 

[Samaldinho]

I am quite confident in my allies' (on Bennacer)