The Rumour Commode XLI: Ragnarok

[Ash-ish]

I want Carlo Ancelotti

go support Real Madrid.

 

[Ash-ish]

Carlo isn’t the right person for this squad imo.

We will get ripped apart with his pasta coaching

 

[Cloren]

go support Real Madrid.

But they’re not Milan

I want him here, not at Madrid

 

[Ash-ish]

But they’re not Milan

I want him here, not at Madrid

Shit cloren we will be fucked. He needs rolls Royce squad galliani with warchest isn’t here anymore

 

[General]

Not only we lost to fucking Hakan. We actually lost in an embarrassing way now everyone knew we fluked our way to top 4 in CL. We are way below that level. Pioli has to go, no other choice.

 

[ibelongtomilan]

And Milan still have CL DNA is the worst joke I have ever seen, DNA comes from players. Real have the DNA because they have players like Modric, Kross, Benz who have won everything multiple times. When they hit bad form they can expect the DNA to kick in and help them overcome obstacles.
CL DNA wont fall from the sky to mediocre like Salad, Messias, Diaz etc.., just because they wear Milan shirts. It is just ridiculous.

 

[sheva]

Pioli has broken another record this season- breaking milanisti spirits

never seen such a massive withdrawal even in banter era

 

[Kmoney]

One thing that really hurt us a lot was Bennacer’s injury. His injury made us that see that shitshow that was Diaz at CAM vs Inter.

Bennacer might have not set the fire as a CAM but he brought in much more balance and control, and scored crucial goals there. His injury was incredibly unfortunate.

It also shows how much better we are when we play 3 midfielders. Like a lot better

We really missed Bennacer a lot in these 2 legs. Very key player

Honestly wouldn’t have mattered. We haven’t scored against inter in 5 of the last 6, including the last 4.

our squad simply isn’t good enough, and Pioli is lost.

Onwards and upwards to next season.

 

[Kmoney]

Surely Pioli will be fired right by the way? At least end of the season?

No reason to keep him in. CL was the last thing keeping him in.

I 100% want him out and I ain’t changing my mind. For me I said if he can win CL I’ll keep him but without it, I 100% want him to leave. If possible as soon as possible.

We still need to finish 5th and within 9 of Juve. There’s an outside chance of CL still. I doubt we unceremoniously sack him before the season is done.

Hope he’s like Gattuso and agrees to forfeit what we owe him

 

[AC Kid]

We have struggled against inter for long years now. I don’t know why but they always seem on their day when we play them. Even the derbies we win theres some luck on our side.

IMO it started from 2006/2007 when they beat us 4-3… generally since then, they have been a lot better than us. Cunts almost always show up extra focused and motivated on derby day

 

[Hitchens]

If I didn’t see your name I would have thought this came from Hitchens

I’m sorry Hitchens

Nah, well deserved. I tried to do RnB suicide by cop last night.

 

[Cloren]

And Milan still have CL DNA is the worst joke I have ever seen, DNA comes from players. Real have the DNA because they have players like Modric, Kross, Benz who have won everything multiple times. When they hit bad form they can expect the DNA to kick in and help them overcome obstacles.
CL DNA wont fall from the sky to mediocre like Salad, Messias, Diaz etc.., just because they wear Milan shirts. It is just ridiculous.

Correct. Madrid didn’t have CL DNA from 2004-13. They kept flopping or bottling.

They have the DNA because of their current champions who giving that so called DNA to their young stars like Camavinga/Rodrygo/Vinicius etc

We were out of the scene for way too long so we lost it and didn’t have the likes of Nesta/Maldini/Kaka to give that DNA to our players.

Pioli certainly doesn’t have the CL DNA. Guy what his pants in the SF while Inzaghi who was never in this position looked like an experienced coach. Inzaghi even made Lazio qualify to the knockouts. DNA I’m afraid

 

[Cloren]

We have struggled against inter for long years now. I don’t know why but they always seem on their day when we play them. Even the derbies we win theres some luck on our side.

IMO it started from 2006/2007 when they beat us 4-3… generally since then, they have been a lot better than us. Cunts almost always show up extra focused and motivated on derby day

Good times

 

[Ash-ish]

We have struggled against inter for long years now. I don’t know why but they always seem on their day when we play them. Even the derbies we win theres some luck on our side.

IMO it started from 2006/2007 when they beat us 4-3… generally since then, they have been a lot better than us. Cunts almost always show up extra focused and motivated on derby day

We never replaced Shevchenko

 

[Longbowman]

We have struggled against inter for long years now. I don’t know why but they always seem on their day when we play them. Even the derbies we win theres some luck on our side.

IMO it started from 2006/2007 when they beat us 4-3… generally since then, they have been a lot better than us. Cunts almost always show up extra focused and motivated on derby day

Since 2006, played 42, Inter wins 23, us 11.
Out of these 17 seasons, I think they had a significantly better squad than us for may be 3-4 seasons. They also had a banter era. We need to fix this record.

 

[Cloren]

Ever since Sheva left yeah… the guy used to peak Vs Inter like nobody’s business

On the other hand, we now suffer the wrath of fucking Lautaro Martínez who has scored 8 goals in 14 matches vs us, the most he scored Vs any other club…

 

[bill0621]

Nobody knows how and when Juve will be penalised. Everybody is talking about -9 pts, but it can also be -6 or -3? I also read somewhere the penalty may also be imposed for the next season.

I have acquired some accounting knowledge with the FFP staff, and now I need to get myself familiarized with the Italian judicial system.

 

[CDarius]

Good times

Looking at that attack...remember that season...Ibra, Robinho, Pato..even Cassano...damn

 

[Fusiproe12]

Looking at that attack...remember that season...Ibra, Robinho, Pato..even Cassano...damn

Inzaghi

 

[Milan10]

I don’t know who can guide us? Maldini will keep padre if we qualify for cl. I hope we qualify and get some ex players like sheva or pirlo. I like Stefano he was crazy with his squad selection.

Tonali was the only person that created anything over both legs and Pioli did nothing to optimize that. 3 out of 4 chances over both legs came through Sandro. I wish we had tried him at CAM. I think Rebic at CF made more sense than Giroud, who enter simply nullified over both legs.

We have struggled against inter for long years now. I don’t know why but they always seem on their day when we play them. Even the derbies we win theres some luck on our side.

IMO it started from 2006/2007 when they beat us 4-3… generally since then, they have been a lot better than us. Cunts almost always show up extra focused and motivated on derby day

I’ve had the same impression that the derby means more to Inter since calciopoli. They’ve just generally been the better club and have had better players and teams over that span of time, but it does seem like they are always trying to tear our fucking asses apart. This year I completely understand, we acted like fools celebrating the title and they responded with a season they will never let us forget. 4 straight wins, 4 out of 5.

The crazy thing is we basically played them off the pitch the first encounter when we still looked like we could be the best team in Italy when we wanted to. Since then, 2 ships passing in the night.

 

[La Chupacabra]

If Pioli didn't have his January-panic of the 343 but instead went against Spurs with his 424, we would have lost to Spurs, and the game would have looked somewhat similar to the way it did against Inter--maybe not as bad, as having Leao fundamentally changes the way a team lines up against you, etc, but still... Pioli resisted the idea of falling into Conte's trap, but for some reason... against Inter, he did the exact opposite. I don't fucking get it.

The game-plan to beat Inter and Inzaghi was laid out against Spurs--which he only went to out-of-desperation, not out of some smart tactical tweak.

Against teams like Napoli, who play 433 and straight-up attack, we can tear them to shreds.

Pioli is struggling to match a 352 because he still is wedded to the idea of a SS in his 4231 (424) against a 352, and not only does he leave his midfield exposed, but none of our attackers know how to pass, which means that they dribble to create, force the issue, and try to use counter-pressing to create opportunities. Well, he's exhausted most of his players since he relies on the same 13 players, but expects them to play an up-tempo style to win games without an attacking strategy... Tonali exceeded his total minutes from the entirety of last season several games ago, it's insane.

It is not about Kessie, nor do I think we lost to Inter because we didn't want to play physical--I think the team tried hard, but the plan was so bad, that it doesn't matter how hard you try, if your tactics are off, it's not going to be about desire. Inter was baiting us into pressing them and then they hit us on the break, or when we attacked, they would hit us during transitions. The exact sort of shit that Conte and Spurs wanted to do--and Pioli fucking fell for it. This wasn't a new wrinkle in Inter's setup, this is... what they do, they've always done.

After we conceded the first goal, a bad early goal to concede on a set-piece, Pioli didn't tell his team to relax, calm down, keep it tight, be patient. No, the team acted like if they didn't attack and score to respond immediately, that they would be automatically lose--this opened them up and Inter scored a second, and then they got even more desperate, which was made worse because the tactical setup was not there to play Inter. When teams don't have to worry about the one-two punch of Leao and Theo, the games look very different, yes, but Jesus Christ Pioli--what were you thinking?

How many times have Real been outplayed by their opponents in the first half of games? Or for 90% of games? But they keep it tight, if they concede first, they don't freak out and make themselves even more vulnerable. No, they ride out the pressure, don't panic, and wait for their moment.

Milan did this against Spurs. Milan has done this before. Pioli has done this before. But Pioli has consistently done the wrong shit. The only time in 2023 that I saw Pioli show the tactical know-how that won me over from 21/22 was against Napoli. That's it. All three games? Wonderful job from Pioli. Truly.

Against Spurs? I would have put that in a similar category, but... I look back and think... this guy just accidentally got his tactics right out-of-fear, at least that is what it looks like. And the biggest reason I think that is... you didn't have Leao against Inter and you fucking... you didn't learn you fucking lesson?

You guys can talk about transfers until the end of times, but the tactical mistakes and simplification of our attacking patterns of play (they aren't even patterns, they're just "hey Brahim Leao, dribble!") cannot mask the fact that Pioli has ideas that don't work, because he's stuck to a 424 in the face of blowouts and has looked at tactics that have worked and refused to reuse them, without reason.

Pioli has either shown that he can't handle a club the size of Milan when there is actual pressure and expectations, or that what has worked during his tenure at Milan has went against his ultimate ideas (the 424) and that his fundamental desire for a 424 is the larger problem, because he clearly doesn't have the players for it, and so why not adjust? He has refused to admit defeat, and worse yet, he's being arrogant not about some intricate style like Zeman, no, he wants to play bully ball with players he's run into the ground.

Napoli are a much better team than Inter, but Pioli used tactics to blow them away. 6-1 over three games is no fluke. Tactics could have let a weakened Milan team grind out a 0-0 or a 1-0 loss, that would've been fine, but Pioli played Inter like he had some point to prove. Why? Everyone moaned about Milan-Spurs being boring. Who gives a shit? This is a semi-final. You're not Sacchi, you haven't implemented some revolutionary style that will echo for generations... you're here to win and you don't even have your best attacking player, what the fuck are you doing?

Cry about transfers all you want, go ahead, but when you have a coach who refuses to use the tools you give him properly or worse yet, doesn't have a fucking plan, it doesn't matter how many players you have, look at Chelsea.

Pioli has to bear the brunt of the blame here, and the only reason I'd hesitate in firing him is because of how strong his relationship is with these players, who are still really young--but I think Pioli has shown that he's not Steve Kerr, he's Mark Jackson, and that's unfortunate.

I sign below each word of your post, brother! Thank you for expressing my thoughts

 

[Soldier_of_god]

We still need to finish 5th and within 9 of Juve. There’s an outside chance of CL still. I doubt we unceremoniously sack him before the season is done.

Hope he’s like Gattuso and agrees to forfeit what we owe him

What if Rube win Europa?

 

[Soldier_of_god]

We never replaced Shevchenko

Even Ibrahimovic is a choker vs inter. At his best I e

 

[Ash-ish]

Even Ibrahimovic is a choker vs inter. At his best I e

Different player
ibra is awesome but he is a number 10 in Gunnar Nordhal’s body

2012 he turned into a monster. Too late in his career. Great player I love ibra.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Ever since Sheva left yeah… the guy used to peak Vs Inter like nobody’s business

On the other hand, we now suffer the wrath of fucking Lautaro Martínez who has scored 8 goals in 14 matches vs us, the most he scored Vs any other club…

Di Natalie, Totti sometimes, Cassano used to drill us and now latuaro. I remember little insigne used to smash us too. Also we have the outstanding dzeko too who always bombs us.

 

[Cloren]

Tonali was the only person that created anything over both legs and Pioli did nothing to optimize that. 3 out of 4 chances over both legs came through Sandro. I wish we had tried him at CAM. I think Rebic at CF made more sense than Giroud, who enter simply nullified over both legs.

I’ve had the same impression that the derby means more to Inter since calciopoli. They’ve just generally been the better club and have had better players and teams over that span of time, but it does seem like they are always trying to tear our fucking asses apart. This year I completely understand, we acted like fools celebrating the title and they responded with a season they will never let us forget. 4 straight wins, 4 out of 5.

The crazy thing is we basically played them off the pitch the first encounter when we still looked like we could be the best team in Italy when we wanted to. Since then, 2 ships passing in the night.

I’m sad about this. Carlo gave us 2!! Euro derbies wins and now they avenged 2005… I really enjoyed the stat of us never losing to an Italian team in CL.

And yeah you’re right, we gave Inter a lot of motivation to beat us this season after our Scudetto win. Good learning lesson for ours lads to learn, never give any team especially our rivals more motivation to beat us.

I hope after all these humiliating defeats, next season we will find that motivation to give it back at them. I can only hope. Give me one 3-0 win for the love of god

 

[brk]

Where is my boy @brkshire hathaway after the match ?

I could use some balance sheet financial pick-me-ups right now.

brkshire hathaway is gold.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Different player
ibra is awesome but he is a number 10 in Gunnar Nordhal’s body

2012 he turned into a monster. Too late in his career. Great player I love ibra.

Ah yeah Ibrahimovic is a legend. But yea he did struggle vs inter. Probably needed someone who can actually finish instead of Robinho hahaga. He missed so many.

 

[Ash-ish]

I want gasperini as consultant I want to be doped to the gill these fragile fuckers in our squad

 

[Ash-ish]

Ah yeah Ibrahimovic is a legend. But yea he did struggle vs inter. Probably needed someone who can actually finish instead of Robinho hahaga. He missed so many.

Jesus Robinho that fucker raped a young lady and our assists when he played for us