The Rumour Commode XLVII: Foamseca is out

[forward]

1. Sack the entire management team.

2. Get Conte

3. Let Conte pick SD

4. Sell whomever we can sell to scrap 100m+ on a decent transfer campaign.

 

[ACM14061988]

AC Milan is pleased to announce its return to Perth, Western Australia, as part of the 2025 Pre-Season Tour. The Rossoneri will face Perth Glory on Thursday 31 July at HBF Park, in the final leg of their summer tour of the Asia-Pacific region, which also includes matches against Arsenal in Singapore (23 July) and Liverpool in Hong Kong (26 July).

The match will see Milan take on Perth Glory, one of the most established clubs in Australian football, currently competing in the A-League, the country's top division.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

AC Milan is pleased to announce its return to Perth, Western Australia, as part of the 2025 Pre-Season Tour. The Rossoneri will face Perth Glory on Thursday 31 July at HBF Park, in the final leg of their summer tour of the Asia-Pacific region, which also includes matches against Arsenal in Singapore (23 July) and Liverpool in Hong Kong (26 July).

The match will see Milan take on Perth Glory, one of the most established clubs in Australian football, currently competing in the A-League, the country's top division.

Fuck off
No one wants bbbilan in aus

Get out of here

Don’t come

 

[Bird]

We are 9th and this means Coppa Italia in the middle of August

It's not like 2-3 extra games vs Serie B teams is going to make or break a season with no European games.

 

[ACM14061988]

It's not like 2-3 extra games vs Serie B teams is going to make or break a season with no European games.

Of course. My problem with it is that i am so obsessed with Milan that i'm sad i can't watch that game because i will be in the US

 

[Il grande Milan]

Inter most probably losing out on the Scudetto in extra time to Lazio last night was the most beautiful moment of this season so far.
The disappointment on these faces after the game.. priceless!

 

[AC Kid]

Reijnders the bitch reportedly agreed with city and wants to go ( sacha tavolieri )

 

[BrianAC]

Still no new SD or coach or stadium?

 

[BrianAC]

Inter most probably losing out on the Scudetto in extra time to Lazio last night was the most beautiful moment of this season so far.
The disappointment on these faces after the game.. priceless!

Hopefully we will have more trophies then them at the end of the season

 

[WILL2K]

Reijnders the bitch reportedly agreed with city and wants to go ( sacha tavolieri )

I am afraid more key players will follow.
This is a sinking ship with no signs of hope thus far.

 

[Buske]

Explains a lot. I didn't watch the game but when I saw the starting formation I bursted out laughing. Most random formation I've seen in a while.

And now I'm reading we're after another scout who currently works in Arabia to make him SD.

This is not a serious club anymore.

Of course it isnt, and you know the exact date it stopped being serious.

 

[WILL2K]

Reports say we are looking at around 55 mil euros with 10 mil extra in bonuses, to reach around 65 mil euros.

We should milk more from City, like 75 mil total package.

 

[danilo1899]

AC Milan were proud to launch Milan Futuro prior to the 2024-25 season, but around one year on the project has become a symbol of incompetence.

As MilanNews writes, the relegation to Serie D is a historic, because for the first time in Italian football a second team is relegated to the amateur level. Seven years ago, Milan had to suffer the shame of the relegation of its Primavera team to the second division, but that situation was resolved immediately.

Yesterday evening’s defeat to SPAL is a resounding shame, the certification of a programmatic failure of an initiative ‘born under dire omens already in its primordial gestation’. To understand what happened, we need to go back to a year ago, when the birth of Milan Futuro came.

The first cracks appear​

Originally, the project for the second team had been assigned to Antonio D’Ottavio as sporting director, who would have detached himself from the operations alongside Giorgio Furlani and Geoffrey Moncada to dedicate himself 100% to Milan Futuro.

The choice of coach had already been made and had fallen on Ignazio Abate, who had done so well with the Primavera. He took them to the Final Four of the UEFA Youth League twice, exiting in the semi-final in their first year while and then losing in the final to Olympiacos the next year.

Abate’s profile was perfect because he knew the Primavera squad well, which would then be promoted to the Futuro squad, and the players would start from importance certainties in terms of daily work.

Instead, the arrival of Zlatan Ibrahimovic to intervene in the Milan Futuro project shuffled the cards. Abate was sacked because he was guilty of not giving space in the Primavera to Zlatan’s eldest son, Maximilian.

As proof, after Ignazio’s dismissal came that of his father Beniamino, who in the meantime had become goalkeeping coach for the women’s first team.

D’Ottavio’s departs​

In addition to the parting with Abate, Ibrahimovic had a series of clashes with D’Ottavio on various issues relating to the creation and management of Milan Futuro. This difference of opinion would be the beginning of an increasingly difficult relationship between the two.

D’Ottavio was thus unable to go to Milanello and to Milan Futuro matches and was relegated to a purely office job. While this was going on, the figure of Jovan Kirovski emerges, Ibrahimovic’s trusted man, who is put in charge of the Milan Futuro project, but without any experience in Italian football.

It would be Kirovski who convinced Ibrahimovic. During the latter’s November trip to New York with Furlani and Moncada, he pushed Cardinale to sack D’Ottavio and he was indeed booted out. In doing so, the project was put in the hands of somebody who was a complete rookie with regards to calcio.

Mismanagement of the players​

The season started with Daniele Bonera on the bench, in his first experience as head coach. But even here the club’s line on how to develop the players’ was not clear. The likes of Torriani, Bartesaghi, Zeroli, Jimenez and Camarda were taken away to fill the bench of the first team, for example.

Liberali is another case study: the playmaker did not find a fixed position, being tossed around between the first team, Milan Futuro and Primavera. This constant coming and going led the players to find neither continuity of use with the Futuro nor game time in the senior side.

There are many examples of players on the bench on Saturday night in the first team and then forced to travel at night to play 500-600km away for the Futuro, arriving more tired. The result is the results seen on the field.

All this continuous whirlwind created confusion within Milan Futuro and the impossibility of being able to give the top talents the appearances necessary for the post season. Camarda and Jimenez, for example, were not able to be used against SPAL.

Then there was the timing of the change of coach. With Bonera perhaps showing all his limitations the club firstly turned to Italy U19 boss Bollini, then the promotion of Guidi from the Primavera (Vergine did not agree) and then eventually went for Massimo Oddo, who did the most with the mess inherited.

The cost of it all​

Now we come to the other sore point, namely the costs taken on by Milan to achieve nothing but a drop in division on the field. The start-up of Milan Futuro, with everything considered, cost €12m, which then became over €15m after the winter market.

It is a budget that dwarfed most other clubs at the third-tier level, and in fact has been enough for certain teams to fight for promotion from Serie B to the top flight. It was wasted money, evidently.

Here too, as with the first team, heads will have to roll (Kirovski could depart) and Milan Futuro will also have to start again with a director who knows how to move properly. Here too, the American management model has failed.

 

[forward]

Reijnders the bitch reportedly agreed with city and wants to go ( sacha tavolieri )

How is he "the bitch"?

He renewed his contract, and if we sell, we will get good money for him. I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to play midtable football under Redshit leadership.

 

[The Cat]

Futuro Project failure belongs in the banter era collection, along with the haka dance etc.

 

[Il grande Milan]

We can write a whole trilogy of things that went wrong this season because of utter incompetence

 

[AC Kid]

If Reijnders played for another club he wouldn’t be sold for less than 90m euros

 

[Cloren]

Reijnders the bitch reportedly agreed with city and wants to go ( sacha tavolieri )

‘Bitch’ lol?

Are you ok

If I’m him I’m running off too

This club is shit and toxic

Leave

 

[tonyb]

Reijnders the bitch reportedly agreed with city and wants to go ( sacha tavolieri )

Better teams appear to be willing to value him more than we do, in that they won't play him out of position.
Maybe we should give him some support with other players too. They don't even need to be world class, just players that would help him play to his best.

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

Better teams appear to be willing to value him more than we do, in that they won't play him out of position.
Maybe we should give him some support with other players too. They don't even need to be world class, just players that would help him play to his best.

Playing players in their position and buying additional players to fit a formation and structure, thus aiming to get the best out of your best players and team overall... Interesting take on things... Playing Deers in his natural and best position you say?

Interesting, really interesting... Sounds like crazy talk, they'll never go for it!!!

 

[Nevermore]

AC Milan were proud to launch Milan Futuro prior to the 2024-25 season, but around one year on the project has become a symbol of incompetence.

As MilanNews writes, the relegation to Serie D is a historic, because for the first time in Italian football a second team is relegated to the amateur level. Seven years ago, Milan had to suffer the shame of the relegation of its Primavera team to the second division, but that situation was resolved immediately.

Yesterday evening’s defeat to SPAL is a resounding shame, the certification of a programmatic failure of an initiative ‘born under dire omens already in its primordial gestation’. To understand what happened, we need to go back to a year ago, when the birth of Milan Futuro came.

The first cracks appear​

Originally, the project for the second team had been assigned to Antonio D’Ottavio as sporting director, who would have detached himself from the operations alongside Giorgio Furlani and Geoffrey Moncada to dedicate himself 100% to Milan Futuro.

The choice of coach had already been made and had fallen on Ignazio Abate, who had done so well with the Primavera. He took them to the Final Four of the UEFA Youth League twice, exiting in the semi-final in their first year while and then losing in the final to Olympiacos the next year.

Abate’s profile was perfect because he knew the Primavera squad well, which would then be promoted to the Futuro squad, and the players would start from importance certainties in terms of daily work.

Instead, the arrival of Zlatan Ibrahimovic to intervene in the Milan Futuro project shuffled the cards. Abate was sacked because he was guilty of not giving space in the Primavera to Zlatan’s eldest son, Maximilian.

As proof, after Ignazio’s dismissal came that of his father Beniamino, who in the meantime had become goalkeeping coach for the women’s first team.

D’Ottavio’s departs​

In addition to the parting with Abate, Ibrahimovic had a series of clashes with D’Ottavio on various issues relating to the creation and management of Milan Futuro. This difference of opinion would be the beginning of an increasingly difficult relationship between the two.

D’Ottavio was thus unable to go to Milanello and to Milan Futuro matches and was relegated to a purely office job. While this was going on, the figure of Jovan Kirovski emerges, Ibrahimovic’s trusted man, who is put in charge of the Milan Futuro project, but without any experience in Italian football.

It would be Kirovski who convinced Ibrahimovic. During the latter’s November trip to New York with Furlani and Moncada, he pushed Cardinale to sack D’Ottavio and he was indeed booted out. In doing so, the project was put in the hands of somebody who was a complete rookie with regards to calcio.

Mismanagement of the players​

The season started with Daniele Bonera on the bench, in his first experience as head coach. But even here the club’s line on how to develop the players’ was not clear. The likes of Torriani, Bartesaghi, Zeroli, Jimenez and Camarda were taken away to fill the bench of the first team, for example.

Liberali is another case study: the playmaker did not find a fixed position, being tossed around between the first team, Milan Futuro and Primavera. This constant coming and going led the players to find neither continuity of use with the Futuro nor game time in the senior side.

There are many examples of players on the bench on Saturday night in the first team and then forced to travel at night to play 500-600km away for the Futuro, arriving more tired. The result is the results seen on the field.

All this continuous whirlwind created confusion within Milan Futuro and the impossibility of being able to give the top talents the appearances necessary for the post season. Camarda and Jimenez, for example, were not able to be used against SPAL.

Then there was the timing of the change of coach. With Bonera perhaps showing all his limitations the club firstly turned to Italy U19 boss Bollini, then the promotion of Guidi from the Primavera (Vergine did not agree) and then eventually went for Massimo Oddo, who did the most with the mess inherited.

The cost of it all​

Now we come to the other sore point, namely the costs taken on by Milan to achieve nothing but a drop in division on the field. The start-up of Milan Futuro, with everything considered, cost €12m, which then became over €15m after the winter market.

It is a budget that dwarfed most other clubs at the third-tier level, and in fact has been enough for certain teams to fight for promotion from Serie B to the top flight. It was wasted money, evidently.

Here too, as with the first team, heads will have to roll (Kirovski could depart) and Milan Futuro will also have to start again with a director who knows how to move properly. Here too, the American management model has failed.

Why can't this club just hire people with actual experience at building long-term projects?

 

[Dena]

 

[WILL2K]

This means little as long as Ibra's nose is everywhere. We need him and Furlani to stay out of football matters. And Moncada, should be no more than a scout.

Ideally, we the entire leadership, including Gerry needs to change.

 

[WILL2K]

I honestly don't know how we will get out of this, or if we will. Gerry needs to sell the club or at least majority of it.

If he wants to win the fans over, he can surprise us by coming out, apologizing and promising us we will compete for Scudetto next season by keeping core players and investing like 70-100 mil easily, and will try to bring back Maldini, and have someone like Albertini instead of Scarecrowni.

But let me wake up, that was just a dream.

 

[theduck7]

Let's use this lack of European football positively and get our act together and hire competent people in the right places for the first time with Redbird

 

[MilanMB]

Good players without ambition will stay but won't grow

Leao?

 

[MilanMB]

Gollum is a master at manipulation

Frodo was pretty re tarded tbh...

 

[Hitchens]

Next coach?

 

[CDarius]

Lol anything below 80-85M for Reijnders..is a steal for any team.
But we will get 50M max..we dont know how to sell. In what world is a midfielder from Brentford/Fulham or any midtable team in PL 80M and Reijnders..national team player..highest scorer this season is 65?

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

I honestly don't know how we will get out of this, or if we will. Gerry needs to sell the club or at least majority of it.

If he wants to win the fans over, he can surprise us by coming out, apologizing and promising us we will compete for Scudetto next season by keeping core players and investing like 70-100 mil easily, and will try to bring back Maldini, and have someone like Albertini instead of Scarecrowni.

But let me wake up, that was just a dream.

Maldini is never coming back... Albertini as a TD and a veteran SD that knows the league or has a clear vision and contacts is the first things we need to start this new cycle at management level.

My fear is they'll be coming into a very chaotic situation but with the right attitude and vision, the challenge could be a draw to some.

Gerry needs to step out the fucking way and invest in people, the right people, to save his investment.

He's going to lose money and face if we see another shit show of a season next year.

The talk of Deers accepting City and Pulisic being unhappy, while not surprising, will be mostly paper talk, for now.

I do fear these two will want out of things aren't stabilised, and quick. Add to that the contract issues with Theo and Mike. If those 4 leave, while we'll receive money, I have no faith that Gerry will reinvest what's needed to properly replace these guys, on top of needing starting quality players in midfield, RB and better back ups in several positions.

This rebuild without European money and a clear idea, is going to take a few seasons, if ever.

I've been on the Gerry bashing train since day one, and I hate being proven right now.

The guys a fucking idiot when it comes to football. His ego is going to hold us back if he doesn't eat some humble pie, and he's too poor to buy his way out of this mess.