The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

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Serious talk

We downgraded

Big time

Not against the firing, never was, but his replacements were a lot worse than him. We needed an upgrade and we got a downgrade.

His cycle was great until 2022. Can’t be disputed.


Now sitting in 9th place his vice championship certainly doesn´t look bad either. It's not like he had a better team at this point.

However not only is he a quality coach, but it shows what happens if you have

1) Consistency over a long period
2) A coach who fits the character of the team

This is why I am not big on Conte for example, Milan especially has always done better if they managed to get a 3 or more years cycle with a coach going. Also if you have a team with talented headless chicken the coach must vibe with that, which especially Fonseca did not.
 

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I'm extremely disappointed and feel betrayed. If they sell Reijnders or Maignan to fund the next spree it will be a massive failure. We're doomed to flirt with 4th every season like Maldini foresaw.

You don't sell your best players, especially not in a season where you're about to play a minimal amount of games. Shrink the squad. Liquidate everyone that has any value. Sell them for whatever you can get and keep a core of around 20 players and build on that. What was the point of fixing the books if we freak out and sell Reijnders the moment we have our first shock? We can afford to keep our best players. This is a fact. They just don't want to. Their priority is clearly maintaining good accounts every year, regardless of the sporting cost. I thought the priority was to build a winning squad and then reap the financial rewards that result from that. I was wrong.

What an utter, massive failure. The sad thing it didn't have to be this way. We were poised for dominance. They thought they were smarter than everyone else and crashed so spectacularly. What's even worse is that they don't seem to understand this and will probably keep doing the same shit and hoping for a better outcome.
 

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I'm extremely disappointed and feel betrayed. If they sell Reijnders or Maignan to fund the next spree it will be a massive failure. We're doomed to flirt with 4th every season like Maldini foresaw.

You don't sell your best players, especially not in a season where you're about to play a minimal amount of games. Shrink the squad. Liquidate everyone that has any value. Sell them for whatever you can get and keep a core of around 20 players and build on that. What was the point of fixing the books if we freak out and sell Reijnders the moment we have our first shock? We can afford to keep our best players. This is a fact. They just don't want to. Their priority is clearly maintaining good accounts every year, regardless of the sporting cost. I thought the priority was to build a winning squad and then reap the financial rewards that result from that. I was wrong.

What an utter, massive failure. The sad thing it didn't have to be this way. We were poised for dominance. They thought they were smarter than everyone else and crashed so spectacularly. What's even worse is that they don't seem to understand this and will probably keep doing the same shit and hoping for a better outcome.
We didn't have to be 9th for sure, but top 4 team with occasional shot at silverware is absolutely were we belong in the food chain currently. Both in its positive and negative quality
 

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I cannot believe YOU of all people forgot what we did in 1999... And that 10th spot was "achieved" in an 18-clubs league. Capello's worst season in managerial career... And then came Zacch with Guglielminpietro, Luigi Sala & his 2 Udine homeboys. Ambro's breakout season, we even had Jens Lehmann for couple of months. Sold Kluivert, Desailly...
I knew it was a shock that Milan won that season on the last match-day IIRC, because they hadn't been good for a while and that had finished 11th and10th for a couple of seasons but didn't realize they had come back to win the scudetto after finishing 10th.

The Zaccheroni era was kind of a blur to me because of the players you mentioned that weren't Da Milan. Desailly was one of my favorites, but Kluivert was disappointing as were Reiziger and Davids but Edgar went on to play great at Juve so we gave up too soon

Anyway, good catch and mea culpa and good for Milan.
 

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Why sell your best player (reijnders)?

Why not just sell a few lesser players - musah, chukwueze, rlc, thiaw, kalulu, adli etc????

This management is just too incompetent.
 

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Why sell your best player (reijnders)?

Why not just sell a few lesser players - musah, chukwueze, rlc, thiaw, kalulu, adli etc????

This management is just too incompetent.
Because you can’t force players to stay. They lose motivation and leave for free eventually. Reijnders price is at its peak. Selling is one of the smart moves of this management
 

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Puli is most established player in our entire squad.
Itsgonna be hard to replace him more than Tij for sure.
Easily replaceable

I can find RWs better than him talent and potential wise

Easily.

But we need him for marketing reasons mainly
 

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The biggest clown in Italy.

Speaking of said clown, when was his last public interview? Has his leash been shortened? I’ve only seen him in the stands next to Moncada at games and nothing else?
 

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Serious talk

We downgraded

Big time

Not against the firing, never was, but his replacements were a lot worse than him. We needed an upgrade and we got a downgrade.

His cycle was great until 2022. Can’t be disputed.

He needed to be fired for losing 6 times to inter

That’s just unacceptable no matter what

Fuck that

But yes we downgraded overall
Despite beating inter

We needed conte sarri or allegri

That’s it

And demented charlatans who probably were dropped on their heads by their parents when they were still babies still decided to go and get a fraud like fonseca

Also Kvara >>> Leao no matter what mental gymnastics and statistical manipulation people come up with

Also Georgia power greater than fake african Portuguese blood
 

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If we sell any player withing June 30 these money would go on the current financial year expected to close at -25, Futuro costed 15 million so a pretty even balance. The tough financial year will be the one of 2026, the one without CL money, so if we want to fix that year we need to sell from July 1 or sell players on loan with obligation
so, if we already need to sell someone in a year we played CL, what will happen next year, sale half of the squad?
something is off here, or they invested so stupidly in the winter that they fucked up for two seasons in adnvace?
 

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I'm extremely disappointed and feel betrayed. If they sell Reijnders or Maignan to fund the next spree it will be a massive failure. We're doomed to flirt with 4th every season like Maldini foresaw.

You don't sell your best players, especially not in a season where you're about to play a minimal amount of games. Shrink the squad. Liquidate everyone that has any value. Sell them for whatever you can get and keep a core of around 20 players and build on that. What was the point of fixing the books if we freak out and sell Reijnders the moment we have our first shock? We can afford to keep our best players. This is a fact. They just don't want to. Their priority is clearly maintaining good accounts every year, regardless of the sporting cost. I thought the priority was to build a winning squad and then reap the financial rewards that result from that. I was wrong.

What an utter, massive failure. The sad thing it didn't have to be this way. We were poised for dominance. They thought they were smarter than everyone else and crashed so spectacularly. What's even worse is that they don't seem to understand this and will probably keep doing the same shit and hoping for a better outcome.
You can easily sell your best player and reinvest
Napoli did that and won with a weaker side albeit playing one comp

But our management’s incompetence is what makes me doubt they will reinvest properly
 

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Because good players are worth a lot of money. Shit ones are not. This is fairly obvious stuff.
That’s why you need a competent SD

Marotta would have sold these useless frauds for profit somehow.
 

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man united and epl flop is the MVP of serie a, while he's from a country with no reputation for good footballers

we need to collect our toughest league in the world i’m afraid @Soldier_of_god
 

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Why not use that money to pay off what remains with Elliott instead of buying a newspaper. :lol:


Because debt isn't necessarily a bad thing in the world of finance. By moving around money you can avoid paying taxes when there’s a surplus/profit. And by using other people’s money the can keep investing and diversifying their risk. It’s how big businesses keep growing
 
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man united and epl flop is the MVP of serie a, while he's from a country with no reputation for good footballers

we need to collect our toughest league in the world i’m afraid @Soldier_of_god
That’s cause man utd is trash

Mctomminay is also a good player and has the novelty factor
What about the Douglas cocksucker Luiz? Who flopped hard so bad that his value went from 60 mil to 28 mil now

And Douglas Luiz was scouted by man shitty who wanted him

Hell I wouldn’t pay 15 mil for that fraud

Last time I checked the best team is inter and they are in the finals where I don’t see an epl fodder team in the final of ucl

I heard they got raped by psg mostly

Toughest league in the world for a reason serie a

Inter would steam roll teams in epl if they get to play that shit league. Hell Napoli this year would have won as they have the league goat conte
 
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Roma would like to keep Saelemaekers. The Giallorossi club has not yet reached an agreement with the Belgian to then go and negotiate with Milan, perhaps offering a technical counterpart. Not Abraham. However, it should not be ruled out that Alexis is back in the Rossoneri's plans

@Gazzetta_it
 

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I love Reijnders and I think we are lucky to have someone with his personality in the team.

Ideally, we would keep Reijnders and all our top players and to clear out the weaker players and upgrade on them. If we had a competent and ambitious management, this would be the only logical direction to pursue.

But our management is anything but that. Even if Tare joins, a positive move imo, I think he is being brought in to discover unearthed talents for cheap to replace the likes of Reijnders and Maignan who could be sold for a great profit.

Since I am convinced that this is the orientation of the management, then I am okay with selling Reijnders for a hefty sum.

He's a wonderful player but I don't think that he is irreplaceable. I'd also want to avoid the Leao scenario from previous seasons when he could have been sold for a lot more than his current value.

I have to trust Tare to be able to replace our good players with players of an equal calibre and I have to hope that somehow someway, this ridiculous management would become more ambitious and more in tune with the demands of the Milan fanbase.
 

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Don't care if Napoli had the advantage of no Europe but going from 10th to first is still a gigantic feat. Don't think it's ever been done before.
It is a gigantic feat, but to be fair… they weren’t a 10th place team. And Inter have played 18 more games than Napoli have since January 1st, 18!
 

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That’s cause man utd is trash

Mctomminay is also a good player and has the novelty factor
What about to the killer Douglas cocksucker Luiz? Who flopped hard so bad that his value went from 60 mil to 28 mil now

And Douglas Luiz was scouted by man shitty who wanted him

Hell I wouldn’t pay 15 mil for that fraud

Last time I checked the best team is inter and they are in the finals where I don’t see an epl fodder team in the final of ucl

I heard they got raped by psg mostly

Toughest league in the world for a reason serie a

Inter would steam roll teams in epl if they get to play that shit league. Hell Napoli this year would have won as they have the league goat conte
douglas cocksucker luiz only flopped cause juve is trash
 

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Let's play a game called guess the poster!

Hint: he's mentally ill

Most overrated coach in Italian history and he would be the gravedigger of AC Milan.
Just in case you've forgotten: Conte is not a top coach.
Conte is simply insane, that's the problem.
Anyone who is happy about Conte is completely lost and mentally handicapped in my view.
Conte is a lethal dose of poison that will catapult us back years and usher in the next Banter era.
Sounds like a very good coach with an excellent attitude. NOT. He's just an unlikeable sociopath.
Conte is an old, failed sociopath who only has a lobby among the disillusioned Italian fanbase. He would have been ridiculed abroad at best.
From my point of view, the indicators are so clear that Conte is finished.
Getting Conte means jumping face first into the buzz saw.
The whole of Europe thinks Conte is not a good coach.
If we hire Conte, things will go downhill first. Sure, then we can sack him and things will go uphill again. The bottom line is that, at best, this means stagnation from today's perspective.
You see, that's the crazy shit Conte brings with him. He's not even there and he's a pain in the arse. After 6 months the players are fucked up, the staff are fucked up, we're out of the Champions League and down on #6 in the league.
Conte is a complete sociopath. The guy is a bigger risk than Abate.
If Conte does not get the coaching job at Milan, he will be unemployed for another year.
He's literally offering himself to us and it's his only hope of getting another prestigious job. I'm sure no-one will hire the lunatic.
My God, they are completely mentally handicapped. What they deserve is that we get Conte and then a nice fight against relegation. Then I'm looking forward to the justification.
Wait until he signs for Napoli, then ADL sells Osimhen and Kvara before Conte resigns at the end of August. You massively overestimate Conte. Why do you think he's no longer a candidate at a top club?
Cloren, I won't post anything about Conte until your disappointment is great again - so at the end of the 2024/25 season at the latest. And then comes the moment when I will tell you: I told you so.
Fonseca is better suited than Conte and, as a rule, teams that take these aspects into account are successful in the long term.
So Conte to Napoli, huh? Nice, one less competitor, although I never saw Napoli as serious competition anyway. They won't pull off a miracle like 22/23 for the next 30 years.
A normal socialite would wonder why Conte, with 70 free benches across the continent, nobody wanted him and had to go to a Napoli outside any European cup.
Let's see if Conte even survives the winter break. The sociopath in ADL's hot seat.
It is much more likely that Milan will win five Scudetti in the next 10 years than that Napoli will win even one in 10 years.
Overrated shitty coach. And some morons here had him higher than Fonseca.
Luck, overperforming xG, no international competetion…
He's lucky that under 80 points will probably be enough this season and that he didn't have to play Champions League, Supercoppa or Coppa Italia. Then they had an incredible match of luck. If we'd taken the lead with the first shot on goal so many times...lol. In fact, he's as impressive as Fonseca/Conceicao.
 

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