The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

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I don't want to defend the managment or Redbird because it is evident what they have done, but Reijnders himself told me he wanted out so i guess we had to sell him

He still signed the contract extension which allowed us to cash in on him(even though management should have asked for more), so we should thank him for that. So thank you Tijjani.
Unlike Theo who is threatening to walk for free.
 

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Liverpool's only transfer last summer was Chiesa

so no that's now how it works
You’re saying it’ll cripple them if Wirtz flops? Whatever floats your boat my friend

Top tier clubs are throwing 40-50m for promising teenagers because they can afford to take that kind of risk. Fodder A is nowhere near there in financial capability no matter how you think this works.
 

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Realistically that's around atleast 180 M.

We won't spend all the funds, but I still expect a big incoming mercato. Tare and Allegri really need to do their part, as furlani and monacada are useless clowns.
Let's assume that happens (and keeping Maignan doesn't make much difference since if he leaves there will be a like for like replacement). What will the squad look like?

GK
Maignan
Sportiello

CB
Tomori
Pavlovic
Gabbia

RB
Jimenez
Terracciano

LB
Bartesaghi

CM
Fofana
RLC
Bondo

LW
Leao

RW
Pulisic

CF
Gimenez
--

That's 14 players. I think we should aim to have a 23 man squad. Camarda on loan and keeping Bartesaghi only because it was embarrassing leaving the LB empty. I don't think he's good enough. Still, the squad looks like it's being cut to the bone.

We would need a CF, RW, LW, 3 CM, LB and a CB. That's 8 players. If we do spend 180m (lol) then that's an average of 22.5m per player, which is almost exactly Furlani's magic number.
 

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Let's assume that happens (and keeping Maignan doesn't make much difference since if he leaves there will be a like for like replacement). What will the squad look like?

GK
Maignan
Sportiello

CB
Tomori
Pavlovic
Gabbia

RB
Jimenez
Terracciano

LB
Bartesaghi

CM
Fofana
RLC
Bondo

LW
Leao

RW
Pulisic

CF
Gimenez
--

That's 14 players. I think we should aim to have a 23 man squad. Camarda on loan and keeping Bartesaghi only because it was embarrassing leaving the LB empty. I don't think he's good enough. Still, the squad looks like it's being cut to the bone.

We would need a CF, RW, LW, 3 CM, LB and a CB. That's 8 players. If we do spend 180m (lol) then that's an average of 22.5m per player, which is almost exactly Furlani's magic number.
Adli will probably be one of the CMs, and Modric looks locked up. Maybe Saelemaekers as the RW. I don't see any players on loan staying beyond that. So besides those we need 5 players and if we spend 180m on them that's 36m each.
 

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You’re saying it’ll cripple them if Wirtz flops? Whatever floats your boat my friend

Top tier clubs are throwing 40-50m for promising teenagers because they can afford to take that kind of risk. Fodder A is nowhere near there in financial capability no matter how you think this works.
Yes a 150m player flopping will set them back as it would anyone outside like 3-4 clubs

Liverpool fans complain about not spending pretty often
 

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Not true. He had a shit squad and brought them within 1 point of 3rd place.
Nope. He fucked up the qualification with his fetish for shit players like Suso, Hakan, Calabria etc.
He made Bakayoko the scapegoat when Bakayoko was one of the best players that season, he mistreated Piatek who basically saved his ass and he had no clue how to use Paqueta.
He also benched Conti who showed promise of coming back vs Empoli when he made that great assist for Castillejo for the 3rd goal, and later when he would play him Sushit would always cut inside and never pass him the ball when Conti made his runs in the right flank, almost as if to sabotage him.

As soon as March came around Gattuso fucked up the derby and fucked up the last 2 months. We were in 3rd place and then he lost the derby and went almost a month without winning a single match and from then on never reclaimed 3rd place. Leonardo saw the writing on the wall pretty early on and there were reports that he wanted to sack him at the time and get Conte to secure top 3 but Maldini blocked him.
Gattuso also said similar things to Conceicao(''I will say what I think at the end of the season'') and then never did say anything iirc.
 

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Adli will probably be one of the CMs, and Modric looks locked up. Maybe Saelemaekers as the RW. I don't see any players on loan staying beyond that. So besides those we need 5 players and if we spend 180m on them that's 36m each.
Broke bitch Cocklani
And bbbelan would never spend that much

90 or 80 max
 

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I guess Allegri is familiar with him and wants Barzagli at Milan. No defender is perfect and you can always point out some mistake here and there, including Maldini in the 2002 WC.

Barzagli not a great athlete but made the most of the talent he was given and along with Bonucci and Chiellini was part of a famous trio of whom he was the one that stayed furthest back.
I'm kind of butthurt that we can't seem to make use of any of our own legends.
Like what does Baresi even do at Milan?
And why does Costacurta work as some shit pundit instead of working at Milan?

I don't think that comparison to Maldini is appropriate. Maldini won several CL finals whereas Barzagli never won a single final at the big European/International stage as starter.
Like couldn't we get somebody who played at Milan at least, like for example Zambrotta.
 

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Doesn't have the brain to play in the middle. Tunnel visiony af
With a very strict coach where every decision is an instruction instead of a thought of his own, he could be a decent wingback
The've been using Di Lorenzo at CB when they play 3 at the back so in that scenario Musah can play RWB which is probably his best position. Conte will tell him not to over-dribble, move the ball quickly and use his speed to track back on D, basically keep things simple.
 

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Sane wont renew with Bayern
Get sane
Get Chiesa for LW
Backup

Get modric almost done
Rabiot
Get Nico Paz for 30 mil
Or Tillman for 30 mil
Ricci or Dick li for quota bullshit 25 mil max

Get j David for striker or guirassay

Lastly a cb like leoni

Still under 120 mil mostly
 

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Realistically that's around atleast 180 M.

We won't spend all the funds, but I still expect a big incoming mercato. Tare and Allegri really need to do their part, as furlani and monacada are useless clowns.
So if those sales materialize, and we keep Saelemaekers and Adli, and sign Modric then that leaves us with:

CB, LB, CM, LW and CF.

Maybe Okafor stays and he can fill in at LW and third option CF if Camarda leaves. We will probably spend on the LB and CB positions. I think they'll stick with Santi as the starting CF and get someone like Lucca as a different sort of option. Realistically this is the window:

OUT:
Reijnders
Theo
Musah
Kalulu
Thiaw
Pogeba
Emerson
Chukwueze


IN:
Modric
Adli
Saelemaekers
Okafor
Cambiaso
Leoni
Lucca
Xhaka


This is probably the worst case scenario for us where they fail to properly reinvest the majority of the income and just stick with mostly returning loan players, a few old guys with experience and spend on one important piece to fix the LB issue. Hopefully they surprise us and spend a lot more, but honestly this is what i'm expecting.
 

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I'm kind of butthurt that we can't seem to make use of any of our own legends.
Like what does Baresi even do at Milan?
And why does Costacurta work as some shit pundit instead of working at Milan?

I don't think that comparison to Maldini is appropriate. Maldini won several CL finals whereas Barzagli never won a single final at the big European/International stage as starter.
Like couldn't we get somebody who played at Milan at least, like for example Zambrotta.
I agree on not using ex Milan players on the coaching staff, last 2 were Tassotti and Dida, but coaches want assistants that they're familiar with, that have worked with before and trust. One example is Landucci, his loyal second in command, so who he chooses is entirely up to him and not should not be forced by the administration.

Barzagli won 8 scudetti, 1 Bundesliga title, 4 Coppa Italia, and a World Cup in 2006 in which he played very well, as I remember. Has been a technical coach of various Italian youth squads from under 16 to under 19 as late as 2023 so he knows a ton of prospects.

Under Fonseca and Conceicao I had no idea who the assistants were, nor their names, now we have qualified people with loads of Serie A experience that don't have to learn on the job. A huge upgrade in all aspects.
 

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So if those sales materialize, and we keep Saelemaekers and Adli, and sign Modric then that leaves us with:

CB, LB, CM, LW and CF.

Maybe Okafor stays and he can fill in at LW and third option CF if Camarda leaves. We will probably spend on the LB and CB positions. I think they'll stick with Santi as the starting CF and get someone like Lucca as a different sort of option. Realistically this is the window:

OUT:
Reijnders
Theo
Musah
Kalulu
Thiaw
Pogeba
Emerson
Chukwueze


IN:
Modric
Adli
Saelemaekers
Okafor
Cambiaso
Leoni
Lucca
Xhaka


This is probably the worst case scenario for us where they fail to properly reinvest the majority of the income and just stick with mostly returning loan players, a few old guys with experience and spend on one important piece to fix the LB issue. Hopefully they surprise us and spend a lot more, but honestly this is what i'm expecting.
Modric good ish he is old
Adli good
Salad average
Okafor average But can be good in the right set up
Cambiaso average as fuck below like Roy Keane level trash fodder
Leoni is good
Lucca is bang average
Xhaka is ok - average


Yea maybe 4th
 

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I agree on not using ex Milan players on the coaching staff, last 2 were Tassotti and Dida, but coaches want assistants that they're familiar with, that have worked with before and trust. One example is Landucci, his loyal second in command, so who he chooses is entirely up to him and not should not be forced by the administration.

Barzagli won 8 scudetti, 1 Bundesliga title, 4 Coppa Italia, and a World Cup in 2006 in which he played very well, as I remember. Has been a technical coach of various Italian youth squads from under 16 to under 19 as late as 2023 so he knows a ton of prospects.

Under Fonseca and Conceicao I had no idea who the assistants were, nor their names, now we have qualified people with loads of Serie A experience that don't have to learn on the job. A huge upgrade in all aspects.
8 scudetti with an *

It’s rube. Accounting fraud. Scandals is in their dna
 

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Longo says it's gonna be 25M plus bonuses for Musah!!

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I'm almost ready to forgive them the underwhelming 70M for Reijnders at this point.

25m for Musah is daylight robbery

SIGNORE CONTE coming through for us
 

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Hm, under Allegri, it is being reported that he's going 433 and if they sell Theo, I think the idea is to get a more defensive LB to provide Leao the space to attack while Pulisic as our RW can pull central and use a more attacking RB to overlap with. I imagine that means Modric is less regista and more mezzala while Xhaka performs your regista duties and Fofana cleans up. The more flat 3-man midfield turns into a 442 in defense, something that Pep, Fonseca, and Conte would all do. Adli can be deployed as backup for both Xhaka and Modric in this setup, RLC can be deployed on the right of the 433 while you put Fofana on the left, depending on your opponents, and I think Bondo stays to provide extra steel and cover--if they are selling Musah I think Bondo is there to replace him as the developmental player who also provides cover for RLC.

If I got to be the SD? I would have appointed De Zerbi and I would want to keep Theo--if they're giving up on Theo I think it means he's got some sort of off-the-field problem(s) that are impacting his play, and if that is the case, I'd understand and probably do the same as them. Absent those issues, if De Zerbi can relaunch him, I'd take that gamble. Of course, how De Zerbi lines up and who he would want is not something I know, and with Marseille he used Rabiot further forward in this 3421 but also went 4231, he's not as dogmatic as people think.

I bring up Theo because it impacts how our midfield lines up. Dodo and Cambiaso are nice options to play RB, but I think if a coach can rehabilitate Theo, he's worth the effort.

If I got my way I'd want to be flexible enough to be as ball-dominant when need be, but pragmatic enough to hit the ball long to fast attackers over-the-top and grind out wins if I had to--essentially I'm a fan of Carlo Ancelotti's chameleon tactical philosophy. In short: my tactics flow from what I have available to me. Last week I only had one winger, so I played a Odegaard-like CM as my LW with a Vitinha-like DM paired with a Polish Yaya Toure DM with a Modric-like kid at CAM who dropped at will, leaving a relentless pressing striker to battle the opponents backline and my outlet was a RW with pure speed, who can only go one direction and shoot with his right, so I didn't think he could cut to his right from the left, and since he's so single-minded I figured "hey, let him do that."

For Milan? Depending on the opponents, I'd play a 4231 with midfield units of: Adli-Xhaka with Modric as CAM, when we really want to possess the ball, especially if we're going to siege a team, and if we need more steel, go Xhaka-Fofana with Modric at CAM, or Adli there if Modric needs a breather (he is 39, after-all) and if we really want to go full-on counter-and-steel put RLC at CAM (from deep a la PSG). Bondo to come in and help as a sub as he learns his trade, etc. I'd want Modric and Xhaka to mentor Adli to be a long-term anchor for us, at worst, he's a good enough squad player.

We would need to invest heavily in the midfield the following season, even if Adli blossomed. Bondo's development would be a huge factor, as well.

I prefer the 4231 or a 433 with a more ^ shape absent some unreal regista. I want a CAM who, when need be, can drop into the midfield to provide defensive cover when the game-state requires, but when we attack, can drop from the CAM spot to provide confusion to the CBs, providing the space for the more attacking of the CMs to run into that space (something that Tiji was great at doing)--but the flexibility of the CAM is crucial for me, someone who can provide the final ball in the final third, keep the ball moving when against a low-block, or unlock teammates when dropping deeper. Modric is one of the best players in history at doing this.

I prefer the 4231 to the (Allegri) 433 because I want us to be ball-dominant, and I like having weapons like Leao, Theo, and Pulisic--and if Santi blossoms then his job becomes far simpler as he doesn't need to be as crucial to build-up play as he will have to be in a 433. I will say that Santi's lack of involvement outside of finishing is a huge worry, he needs to improve there, unless he's just going to be putting up Feyenoord goal scoring numbers in Serie A. It's why Conceicao preferred Jovic to Santi in the 343, where we absorbed pressure and that central link needed to be the striker--but if you have someone in that CAM space who can actually link play, that problem is solved. Fonseca tried Pulisic there and that's not Pulisic's game, it also meant we had Chuk or Musah at RW which failed. Conceicao bet on Felix to do that and he was terrible, there were no alternatives and our midfield could only (attempt) to contain or hit on-the-break, hence the 343.

I think Allegri saw that problem, but being ball-dominant and possession-heavy is not going to be his solution--his solution won't be to keep the ball and impose the game, he's going to want to absorb pressure. I think Allegri is going to use the passing abilities of Modric, Xhaka, Adli, and Fofana (who is actually a better passer than many think) to draw our opponents in, so that Leao and Pulisic can be outlets for more direct play through and over the man-centered pressing patterns that are so prevalent today. The hyper man-orientated press that is taking over the EPL is not being widely adopted by Serie A teams, and PSG are actually pressing (and possessing the ball) in a very different way to that, they mix zone and man much more--their attacking patterns are also far different--but Allegri isn't going to face play like that, only Gasperini and Italiano try those sorts of approaches, Conte doesn't do that, and Chivu's squad is not built for that whatever his philosophy is.

Point is: I think Allegri's Milan will look and play more like Carlo's Real against City before Mbappe (yes everything with Real is better, yes, yes, visualize the concept [again this is for critics, not you, bro]), and it won't be Leao and Pulisic as two "strikers" in a psuedo-442, I bring up that Real team under Carlo to say that we'll use our midfield to create space for our attack to exploit. Allegri wants a big boy striker, that's obvious from the Vlahovic rumors (if they're true). Allegri isn't going to manufacture counters like De Zerbi, he's going to absorb pressure and the utility of passing is simply to ensure the ball to trigger the counter will be made with quality, he wants to make those chances be as high quality as possible.

I don't think Allegri's previous stint with Juve is going to be the template, I don't think we're built for that 352 he used, and the rumors about who we're going for don't point to that--hopefully Allegri's style works, and frankly, it should, without European football, a Scudetto should be very achievable when the rest of your rivals all have European commitments.
Xhaka-Fofana and Modric as CAM makes most sense to me as well.

When we hired Allegri, I initially thought we’d play 3-5-2, but unless we drastically overhaul things that looks unlikely.
 

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