I'd love to know more details about the bonuses in the Tonali deal. Any source on that? If they're based on appearances in his first year there then yeah it would have been a bad deal. But if it was more of a collection of bonuses, some personal, some team based, then what's the harm?
Tonali wasn't worth 70m, especially knowing that a gambling ban was looming.
We could argue that we should have kept him regardless of the ban and the fee, and maybe in hindsight that probably should have been considered, but saying that we didn't get a good deal for him is a bit of a stretch.
I am not talking about keeping Tonali, nor am I advocating for it. This whole discussion is about how poorly this management does at selling players, that's it.
I have not found any consistent reporting on his bonuses, but I do not think we knew the gambling ban was looming. If we did, it would make the use of bonuses to be an absurdity. The reporting from Ornstein and Newcastle's also casts doubt on this notion that we knew. Gerry bragged about selling Tonali for 70m with a 10m earnout, and that is directly what he said, and yet our books reflect a 58m sale.
Tonali was worth more than 58m, Caicedo was sold for 115m pounds sterling in the same window. Caicedo's price was the result of a bidding war between Liverpool and Chelsea, meanwhile, we rewarded Newcastle's audacity with terms that provided them with value. Before someone brings up "EPL tax" or whatever on Caicedo, there are countless other examples cited in this discussion, which were used to show that we sold poorly.
Hence my point that Gravenberch's fee at 40m after his failure at Bayern (who paid 18m for him) should not have been anywhere close to Tonali's fee of 58m.
Newcastle fans, even after his ban, still look at his fee as a bargain. City fans look at our Reijnders price as a bargain.
I am agnostic to selling or keeping any player, if they sell good players, they should improve the squad with their sale. They have not. This management has shown their incompetence in glaring ways--and despite Tare's reputation and Allegri's seriousness,
all of the figures who were part of the various failures that culminated in this horrific season are still employed at the club.
The point is not about Tonali nor is it about Reijnders, it is questioning their methods of selling valuable players on favorable terms for other teams, when they should be extracting as much money as possible from buying clubs. My question is: what benefit do we get out of being a good place to shop for Newcastle and City? Real and Barca have agreed to not go after the same targets, because they recognize they need each other to compete with the EPL teams. Are City or Newcastle giving us players, doing us favors? I don't see any. Absent them sending us some wayward youth players that turn into Theos and Leaos, money would be preferable.
Eintract Frankfurt and Brighton do a better job selling than us, that's a problem, because unlike Frankfurt, Brighton, or even Dortmund, our fans (customers) expect more--and our margin for error is much smaller than those clubs.
i play the inter fan whos a hater. Dissing inter and praising milan lowkey 
