The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

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Chuck and Emerson wages... someone should be shot for those deals.
Can we add RLC and the Tammy loan in there?

Obviously Flo is a massive fuck up as well...

I'm so looking forward to the RLC, Emerson and ChuK redemption season we're about to witness...
 

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Fair enough, I think you raise a few valid concerns – especially about RedBird's reluctance to inject capital directly, and the decision to use Milan’s own books for the land purchase. But I think it’s important to separate short-term cash flow from long-term strategy here.

Yes, Milan spent 55M of its own money to buy the San Donato land if some of those reports are to be believed, which does reduce available liquidity for transfers or wages in the short term. But that doesn’t mean the money is "gone" or wasted. It’s been turned into a tangible asset – real estate – which increases the club’s overall value and lays the groundwork (literally) for long-term independence from San Siro and improved matchday revenues or improved structure for the youth teams who hopefully can be turned into even more valuable assets for the club too one day.

From a FFP perspective, that kind of infrastructure investment isn’t even counted against spending limits. So this has no negative effect on what the club is allowed to spend in terms of FFP compliance – it’s a business decision, not a regulatory issue.

The argument that RedBird should’ve used a separate vehicle to make the purchase is fair, but also a bit speculative. We don’t know the tax reasoning, the legal framework, or whether Milan will eventually move those assets under a stadium-holding entity later. And comparing this directly to Chelsea (which is a completely different ownership and structural context) only goes so far.

If the criticism is that RedBird prioritizes business structure and asset growth over immediate sporting success – that’s a fair debate. But saying the 55M land purchase is the reason we didn’t buy this or that player or hire a better coach feels like oversimplifying a complex situation. Let’s not forget: the money isn’t missing – it’s just tied up in a different kind of investment.
I don't think we can separate their short-term or long-term strategies here, regardless of how successful they are with the stadium (an area I have consistently given them praise for) their sporting choices will weigh heavily on how a potential stadium or real estate is utilized. That is why Chelsea is relevant, they sold those hotels because they had to; Todd Boehly didn't even realize that Chelsea was not going to be in the CL as a result of their poor season. When Eghbali took over control this last year, he had to sell those assets to cover up for the disaster of Boehly's reign as owner-slash-sporting director, where they were out of the CL for two years straight.

Redbird bought a very healthy club, probably the most financially healthy club in Italy--their choices have put that all at risk.

I don't have a problem with them buying San Donato. I don't have a problem with them building a stadium in San Siro. Kudos, great job.

I'm assuming that they have taken the necessary steps to shield the club from whatever liabilities come with purchasing real estate through Milan directly--so as I wrote above, it is not speculation nor is it some alien context to bring up the Chelsea example, because unlike the NBA or NFL, sporting performance directly impacts revenues more so than any other major sport.

The Tare and Allegri quest is their fourth revolution in two years, it started with Pioli and 433, Fonseca and whatever, then Conceicao with Felix, Santi, and Walker. They are all over the place.

Their choices have led us to get 8th place and to lose a tremendous amount of revenue that have impacted our sporting choices already. We just sold Reijnders, and from a position of weakness, although I doubt whether Redbird would have changed their selling strategy had we made the CL, hence my bringing up of Tonali.

Again, we got 8th, in order to make up for the losses to compensate for our lack-of-CL, we sold Tiji just to maybe get even, and even then, it looks like we just put Tiji's sale on this year's books, when we do have the CL, so my question is: what are we going to sell next year? Pulisic?

FFP requires the owners to compensate for losses, and Redbird is not going to do that, that's why them putting the acquisition on our books unnecessarily worries me. We are now dealing with the problems with their short and long term planning. They didn't budget for us not getting the CL, so they put 55m on our books, great, now we have less revenue next year, they want to maintain revenue growth, while losing money, and I'm supposed to trust them to make the right choices?

Yes, them putting 55m on the books instead of paying for a coach, more players, is relevant because it points to how they plan, how they budget--that isn't simplifying the situation, it's the reality that we are facing. Allegri was available last year, Conte was begging for the job, Tare was free last year, they did not pursue any of these people and now they have Allegri and Tare--they have messed up and that's why we are here.
 

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Can we add RLC and the Tammy loan in there?

Obviously Flo is a massive fuck up as well...

I'm so looking forward to the RLC, Emerson and ChuK redemption season we're about to witness...
Chukwueze this season would be like Garrincha but with equal leg lengths . Basically useless as before .
 

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Ciro Venerato, when speaking to Rai 2:

“Milan are interested in Federico Chiesa! A phone call to his entourage and a meeting with Liverpool through an intermediary. Liverpool’s veto must be removed, as they want to give the player to Milan on loan with an obligation to buy, and not on loan with an option.​
“Milan has forcefully entered for Chiesa, who Napoli is evaluating but considers him only as an alternative to other wingers, starting with Ndoye. While Allegri, who knows the Italian offensive winger very well, would gladly take him.​
“The problem is the formula, because Milan does not intend to risk large sums. A loan with an option or a loan with a conditional obligation could be a solution. On the fact that Milan and Allegri are thinking about Chiesa, I can confirm it a thousand percent.”​

Who is Ciro Venerato? Is he worth listening to?
With a name like Venerato you’d think so 😉…I believe he does the calcio mercato segment on La Domenica Sportiva.

I’m going by memory here, so someone please correct me, but he had a falling out with Juventus after Calciopoli and while he worked at RAI.
 

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Reports that Allegri and Tare tried to convince Furlani to keep Theo worry me. Apparently they had to do that over Mike, as well.
 

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Reports that Allegri and Tare tried to convince Furlani to keep Theo worry me. Apparently they had to do that over Mike, as well.
That doesn't make sense though.
Unless Furlani considers Theo too much of a fuck up that even Allegri can't fix, you would think that if Max wanted to keep him, like he did with Mike, then he would have been able to convince the midget to give him a chance to fix him.

Not to mention if Theo had wanted to stay, he would have appealed to Max to keep him.

Seems to me that Max somehow decided he can't be rehabilitated, otherwise Furlani really hates his guts for being the cause of Milan not reaching minimum sporting targets, thereby affecting the midgets' bonuses or something like that.
 

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Goodbye Theo.

Favorite player since gattuso and nesta. That lazio goal for winter champions:love:





Magical for few years.

But was disrespectful to logo for a year and half.

Grazie for 30 million
 

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this attack in Qatar on American bases is bc of shitty jerry's decision to sell Theo
 

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That doesn't make sense though.
Unless Furlani considers Theo too much of a fuck up that even Allegri can't fix, you would think that if Max wanted to keep him, like he did with Mike, then he would have been able to convince the midget to give him a chance to fix him.

Not to mention if Theo had wanted to stay, he would have appealed to Max to keep him.

Seems to me that Max somehow decided he can't be rehabilitated, otherwise Furlani really hates his guts for being the cause of Milan not reaching minimum sporting targets, thereby affecting the midgets' bonuses or something like that.
It does make sense, it would show that they learned no lessons from their constant meddling the last few years.

Furlani, Moncada, Ibra, the entire executive group is a cluster fuck and that's why we got 8th this year.

Look, if Theo can be rehabilitated, I want him here. If he can't, fine, sell him. Fonseca wanted to keep Saele, they got rid of him, they made choices without consulting the coach, a player like Saele isn't a big deal--but then with Conceicao, they triple downed on the 424 with Felix, even though it didn't work the last few years either.

Theo isn't the singular reason we didn't meet our sporting targets, and since none of the people who were in positions of leadreship got fired, including the dumb fuck who got our PSG of Serie C relegated to Serie D, forgive me if I'm concerned over their choices.
 

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