The Rumour Commode XXX: Return of the King

[Master Smurf]

Riccardo Bigon, Bologna's sporting director:" We wouldn't want to sell Tomiyasu, but if sensational offers arrive we will take them into consideration. We'll also need a technical evaluation to find substitutes, it's not very simple."

So thats a no - good.

With how Calabria is playing I only want a Theo-like upgrade
- flavour of the month isnt necessary

 

[Hugh Janus]

14 in Genoa tested positive today, 8 of those are players, they played Napoli yesterday.

League suspended again?

 

[mrki]

Milan are very interested in Bologna right back Takehiro Tomiyasu per
@DiMarzio

Was superb vs us

 

[ZBoban]

Didn't Rebic just show up in Milan out of no where to get his medical

With no previous mentions

Maybe but I'm sure Boban was working on Rebic. In this case I don't care what they say about tracking Hauge for a few months, I'm convinced they had no real intentions of buying him before last Thurday.

 

[Qaas]

English football bores me

Ooh

 

[Nevermore]

Didn't Rebic just show up in Milan out of no where to get his medical

With no previous mentions

Ramadani was hangning around Casa Milan whole summer

 

[mumbojumbo]

14 in Genoa tested positive today, 8 of those are players, they played Napoli yesterday.

League suspended again?

No. They will be forced to play with 13 players or lose the match 3 - 0. It is cruel but that's the rule

 

[Milan2012]

Calabria was always good against lower sides, but put him against a good dribbler and he?s dusted.
I was a big supporter of his early on but now idk. It feels wiser to have a stronger defender on the right, even if it?s just as backup and as an extra option.

 

[Casualista]

Actually, it's because smart teams have begun to stop with the mega-purchases, they don't bring the same value. This is actually the whole entire idea behind Dortmund, behind Ralf Rangnick, and other teams that function this way.

The relative play increase you get relative to the amount you invest in a particular player is usually not the same.

So the new thinking is to use a different strategy. It's essentially trying to find undervalued assets. Which is what Liverpool has done. You off-load Coutinho for 150m for Salah at 45m and you get equal (and with Salah) you get even greater performance.

They have invested, and they are continuing to do so, we're in a Covid market, everyone is withholding, so I dunno what you're talking about.

It's okay to go and find undervalued assets but Dortmund
and liverpool spend hundreds of millions searching for a large pool of these assets. Even Madrid do the same.

So if that's the plan with Milan then they are not doing it very well. I don't think ffp is the biggest restraint. Elliott just doesn't think spending on players is the way forward. Every year they have spent less on players.

You don't make money from sports teams in revenue. You just don't.

You can spin any way you want. The point is the same. Elliott clearly see a ceiling to Milan's growth (whatever your metric of growth is). Most likely they will hit that ceiling after the new stadium is built and then they will leave.

Owners who see their clubs as long term investments behave in entirely different manner. And I frankly don't mind one bit hoe Elliott think of milan because it's pretty accurate that stadium is the biggest thing that will increase Milan's valuation.

Returning to UCL on its own does zilch.

 

[General]

14 in Genoa tested positive today, 8 of those are players, they played Napoli yesterday.

League suspended again?

We finish the season undefeated 2-0

 

[papaberlu]

Maybe but I'm sure Boban was working on Rebic. In this case I don't care what they say about tracking Hauge for a few months, I'm convinced they had no real intentions of buying him before last Thurday.

Maybe

He's young though and has insane stats in his league, I'm sure they were tracking him

But seeing him perform at that level vs one of the best sides in Italy def pushed the deal forward

 

[ROSSONERI7]

Because of Theo we need a defensive RB that can comfortably play as a CB in a 3 man defense. That's why Maldini is targeting Milenkovic, Mukiele and Thomiyasu.

i see it more as a need for versatility (covering 2 positions) than trying to "balance" having a high pushing Theo...
you can get a player similar to Theo on the right and still achieve balance through instructions/discipline. "when he's up, you stay down"

which is even better imo.
- less work for each, very important for the long season
- we can be dangerous on both side, which also means if one is out we still have 1 dynamic FB who can contribute offensively.

 

[VultureSheva]

Calabria was always good against lower sides, but put him against a good dribbler and he?s dusted.
I was a big supporter of his early on but now idk. It feels wiser to have a stronger defender on the right, even if it?s just as backup and as an extra option.

Hauge dribbled him easily, but many here didn't want to mention.

 

[IL-Capitano]

If Hauge happens it has to be one of the quickest transfers in Milan history lol.

It will be like an old school Milan signing. The club see a player they like they make on offer, the player is now a Milan player. Very refreshing and at 5m he will be a bargain in today's market. If he does well and explodes smart business if he doesn't work out not a huge loss and still smart business.

 

[Sven]

14 in Genoa tested positive today, 8 of those are players, they played Napoli yesterday.

League suspended again?

Man, if they find out cases in Napoli shit will go down

 

[mumbojumbo]

Hauge dribbled him easily, but many here didn't want to mention.

I agree. Calabria is not good enough. Should be sold while his form is high enough to get value out f him

 

[Casualista]

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Man, if they find out cases in Napoli shit will go down

One month quarantine for the league would be great for us.

 

[jawz10]

Elliott purposely loaning money to someone they knew wouldn't pay them back in order to get into sports management (something they have zero experience with) is the stupidest thing I've read in a while.

Yeah, but the problem is you?re picking and choosing when to use logic and when to have a snarky agenda and the only other person parroting you is a known troll. I guess you?re genuine in your wrongness, and thats good I guess.

 

[VultureSheva]

I agree. Calabria is not good enough. Should be sold while his form is high enough to get value out f him

He has been in Milan for 5 years, do not even compare him to the cases of Kessie, Hakan, Paqueta or any other. For 5 years he had some good periods and often was shit. Recently he is giving his all after all the rumours about his possible sale. But I'm sure he will soon show his defensive weakness and will not be very productive in attack (as Theo). I fear we are stuck with him until he becomes 30

 

[joyrider]

lequipe: Lyon made a first bid of loan with option to buy for €18M for Paqueta that was rejected by Milan. Lyon will submit an improved bid. Milan want the option to be mandatory

 

[Ronin]

man, do you guys write a lot...

@Samaldinho, what do you do for a living? Are you a writer of some sorts? Or one of those guys who just writes a lot of emails?

 

[VultureSheva]

L'Equipe: Facundo Pellistri, the 18-year-old Uruguayan winger, is due to arrive in Lyon on Thursday, while OL have already made an offer to AC Milan for Lucas Paqueta

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Tomiyasu would be a good buy. Would bring in loads of Instagram followers.

 

[Samaldinho]

It's okay to go and find undervalued assets but Dortmund
and liverpool spend hundreds of millions searching for a large pool of these assets. Even Madrid do the same.

So if that's the plan with Milan then they are not doing it very well. I don't think ffp is the biggest restraint. Elliott just doesn't think spending on players is the way forward. Every year they have spent less on players.

You can spin any way you want. The point is the same. Elliott clearly see a ceiling to Milan's growth (whatever your metric of growth is). Most likely they will hit that ceiling after the new stadium is built and then they will leave.

Owners who see their clubs as long term investments behave in entirely different manner. And I frankly don't mind one bit hoe Elliott think of milan because it's pretty accurate that stadium is the biggest thing that will increase Milan's valuation.

Returning to UCL on its own does zilch.

Wait, let me get this straight, you're saying: Liverpool and Dortmund spend 100's a million to find undervalued assets? Huh? What?

Elliott have owned Milan since 2018. You're saying they put less money into the team, when they're trying to construct a stadium? Perhaps the needs of buying players has severely decreased with the play of Hakan, Kessie, Calabria, and the low-cost, yet high-reward purcahses of Kjaer, Saelesmaekers, and Ibra? It seems that Maldini is using a different strategy, which is working, combined with the fact he doesn't want to pay pre-covid prices for players, which I commend him for.

Now, as far as your comment about "spin."

It's not spin, cupcake, it's called reality. Just because you don't know what you're talking about, but you want to speak with authority, and now that you don't have a retort, it's cute, it's nice, but just stop.

If you're a troll, then try harder. You are bad at it. If you really believe the things you say, cool, agree to disagree, but I'm not talking about who a better player or manager, that shit is just like, barber shop type conversation.

This is the very basic economics of the sport we watch. Sports team ownership is based in selling assets that gain value in equity, not in the income from revenues. It's true in real estate, and it's true in sports team ownership, so I'm not sure how it's "spin."

Just take your L, please.

 

[Wild]

Why is everyone proverbially sucking off Maldini's cock over Hauge?

What about Massara? Moncada?

Duh, Maldini is the most handsome of the lot.

 

[Master Smurf]

He has been in Milan for 5 years, do not even compare him to the cases of Kessie, Hakan, Paqueta or any other. For 5 years he had some good periods and often was shit. Recently he is giving his all after all the rumours about his possible sale. But I'm sure he will soon show his defensive weakness and will not be very productive in attack (as Theo). I fear we are stuck with him until he becomes 30

Milan has been terrible over that period. All of the players you mention have been mostly bad until recently excluding your favourite Paqueta who remains poor. If we expect Hakan and Kessie to carry on why cant we expect the same out of Calabria. The same response the others have given could be the same for him.

Also if he isnt on bad wages then what is wrong with him staying and contributing??? No team has 15 WC superstars hitting on all cylinders - this is what many posters here seem to want and its a pipe dream...especially when you have limited funds.

If a great RB can be bought then fine but moving Calabria now seems foolish to me.

 

[VultureSheva]

Nicolo Schira: Tomorrow it could be the JP #Hauge day. Milan have offered €5M to #Bod?Glimt. For the norwegian winger ready a contract until 2025 (around €1M/year).

 

[VultureSheva]

Milan has been terrible over that period. All of the players you mention have been mostly bad until recently excluding your favourite Paqueta who remains poor. If we expect Hakan and Kessie to carry on why cant we expect the same out of Calabria. The same response the others have given could be the same for him.

Also if he isnt on bad wages then what is wrong with him staying and contributing??? No team has 15 WC superstars hitting on all cylinders - this is what many posters here seem to want and its a pipe dream...especially when you have limited funds.

If a great RB can be bought then fine but moving Calabria now seems foolish to me.

I'm not talking about Milan, but about Calabria individual qualities. Since the beggining he was very raw and never looked like a talent with high potential to me. Not intelliegent defender, poor at marking and easily being dribbled even by players like Macarone. In attack he never was as good as Theo, and will never be.
Abate was old and then left the club, Conti was injured for two years, this allowed Calabria to get a lot of space but was not convincing.

And don't compare him to Hakan or Kessie, if they were average, Calabria was trash, they still had more quality than him.

 

[papaberlu]

Tomiyasu would be a good buy. Would bring in loads of Instagram followers.

Shame instagram wasn't that big a thing when Honda joined, would have helped the numbers a lot

 

[Balo45]

Not worth getting into it with people who I genuinely don’t think have any joy or fun in life. Imagine being such a loser you come onto the internet to tell everyone you’re smarter than them and shit on the club that the entire forum is based on lol. Thought the eeyores would have left years ago but I honestly think they enjoy Milan more like this, easier for them to make fun of the team and suck off EPL clubs.


I am fully on the Hauge train, I think he will surprise like Salae has. Pioli has shown that if you work hard you will get a chance, and I think Hauge will take it