Official: Massimiliano Allegri Thread

[Ash]

Well, looking at your posts, I thought you knew....

Kid

If I wanted to waste my time, I would have debunked every piece of line in that post of yours.

But then again, why waste my time?

Just be a good boy and keep blaming the referees

 

[Senatore_M84]

haters.

Please explain how we can have shit quality and still hold manager responsible for not getting results we want?


You can't have both. He has maximized every player. Nocerino, Muntari, Ambrosini, Boateng and on down line ALL play better undeR allegri. This is best they can give w/o an influx of quality.


Allegri's got his flaws. But this is NOT a scudetto team. Not with Cassano/Pato missing most of season. Not with aquilani missing half the season (heck maybe even with). Not with Gattuso missing whole season.

 

[MilanMB]

@ Ash

you're a n00b

 

[Mr. Milanista]

Kid

If I wanted to waste my time, I would have debunked every piece of line in that post of yours.

But then again, why waste my time?

Just be a good boy and keep blaming the referees

ok.
And you'r an idiot if you dont think referees has been a negative part this season. I'm only stating facts, nothing else.

 

[Wild]

haters.

Please explain how we can have shit quality and still hold manager responsible for not getting results we want?


You can't have both. He has maximized every player. Nocerino, Muntari, Ambrosini, Boateng and on down line ALL play better undeR allegri. This is best they can give w/o an influx of quality.


Allegri's got his flaws. But this is NOT a scudetto team. Not with Cassano/Pato missing most of season. Not with aquilani missing half the season (heck maybe even with). Not with Gattuso missing whole season.

One need to evaluate his option & act upon it.
When facing a decision sometime its a good way to simplify your option & then take the better road.
Usually its better to change the coach than the squad , god know I asked for that when Carlo was our manager but back then we had a kick ass squad , but when everybody & I man everybody know we have a bad squad then I dont get how changing the coach could fix anything.
I mean do people in here actually believe that any coach will do better with our current squad ?

 

[Costanza]

I personally know for a fact that Refs fucked us this season with that Muntari goal, with that goal we would win the game 2-0 or 3-1 and we would easily win Scudetto.

But I don't want that to be what we worry about, after watching CL semis I think we should buy 2-3 quality players and try to make ma batter team. That's why I don't like talking about refs but the fact that they fucked us over is undeniable.

 

[nekky]

cassano-ibra-kpb is the best formation against parked busses. Ibra and cassano simply drill through the defences with their creativity and understanding with each other. But against formidable team that doesn't park the buss, cassano-pato or ibra-pato should be better choices since we could use that pace in one of the 2 strikers

 

[MonsterKane]

Cauz his slow brain needs 10 crap appearances in a row to finally get it

Well, it depends. Ten crap appearances maybe aren't enough for Allegri. Nocerino had like 500 crap appearances and he still didn't get it.

Okay, okay, Nocerino scored ten goals.

 

[Dias]

Goodbye Mr Allegri

 

[Curupira]

Who could have done better with this poor squad?? We were 4 points up from Juve? Did we have a massive injury crisis against Catania? Fiorentina? Bologna?

 

[Curupira]

Well, it depends. Ten crap appearances maybe aren't enough for Allegri. Nocerino had like 500 crap appearances and he still didn't get it.

Okay, okay, Nocerino scored ten goals.

Yep

 

[luke07]

Who could have done better with this poor squad?? We were 4 points up from Juve? Did we have a massive injury crisis against Catania? Fiorentina? Bologna?

hell yes, our squad depth is shit, our player recovery to top form also shit

and you one of people who believe milan would beat barca?

 

[Curupira]

hell yes, our squad depth is shit, our player recovery to top form also shit

and you one of people who believe milan would beat barca?

Against shitty ass Fiorentina, Catania, and Bologna and all a sudden we need depth

No I don't believe we can beat Barca. They do have a better squad

 

[Costanza]

what can you do with a non-creative midfield? Noce-Muntari are not creative types, and are not technical either.

Monto can be the missing key under Max. He made something out of both Noce and Muntari, turned Prince into the beast he is and made something out of Urby, not because he loves him but because he kinda had no other choice.

With cassano and Ibra fit, we only need a midfielder who can open spaces and carry the ball well.

without Cassano, we need a pure creator. so Monto and two other midfielders will make Max's system work pretty well.

Modric/Jojo, Monto and a physical type who can shoot and tackle and pass will be great.

 

[fredrik9]

Allegri clearly under heavy fire having to go this low:

@Milanello

Allegri: "If a coach manages to win in his first season, then it means that he is very competent."

 

[luke07]

Against shitty ass Fiorentina, Catania, and Bologna and all a sudden we need depth

No I don't believe we can beat Barca. They do have a better squad

of course we do, cause our senile management has talked lots of bullshit we could beat barca

you saw what happen before and after that 2nd leg, player lost their motivation

you should've known that shit is so typical of milan, often lost motivation when there is still chance even it's just a little bit

 

[Congo Powers]

Allegri: "If a coach manages to win in his first season, then it means that he is very competent."

true statement

 

[MilanMB]

Its funny that the same people who moan about the (lack of) quality in our squad over and over, are the same people who think the coach should perform miracles.

 

[fredrik9]

I for one hope Allegri stays. He's not the most charismatic guy out there, but we should give him time. Yes, he's made some mistakes. But he's also new, and growing and learning. He's had two seasons and getting rid of him would be like throwing two years down the drain. We have a good thing going. Get rid of some overstock players, bring in one or two worldclass players, and we'll challenge for the CL next season.

Better one world class player than ten mediocre bosman squad rats.

 

[Senatore_M84]

Its funny that the same people who moan about the (lack of) quality in our squad over and over, are the same people who think the coach should perform miracles.

haters.

Please explain how we can have shit quality and still hold manager responsible for not getting results we want?


You can't have both. He has maximized every player. Nocerino, Muntari, Ambrosini, Boateng and on down line ALL play better undeR allegri. This is best they can give w/o an influx of quality.


Allegri's got his flaws. But this is NOT a scudetto team. Not with Cassano/Pato missing most of season. Not with aquilani missing half the season (heck maybe even with). Not with Gattuso missing whole season.

Cauz his slow brain needs 10 crap appearances in a row to finally get it

Or because you have a slow brain and can't realize the realities.


Realities- 4-3-1-2 suits our squad best. Whether you like it or not.

1. Ibra does not perform well in xmas tree or 4-3-3. He's isolated. He complains. (see v. Arsenal)

2. We do not have midfield capable of playing just a 3 man. We need the focal point to compact it, since none of our guys can do it. Did you not see the meltdown v. arsenal or first half v. lecce, both which we used some sort of 3 forward system (elshaarawy or cassano w/ robi/zlatan). That had much more to do with our midfield incapable of doing anything and giving away easy chances under pressure than anything

3. Who else are you going to play there? Prince is out. Seedorf? He's DONE at AM. Aquilani? Didn't do well there. Muntari? Ok.


Yeah Urby is anything but ideal at AM, but he's the best of the horrible options he has.

Everyone wants to play fantasy football, but don't actually look at reality of what players can and can't do. Yes Urby sucks at AM, but as a team sadly we r better that way than in a 3 forward system or a with another player not named prince.

I'll blame allegri for not exploring other 2 striker systems like a 3-5-2 or a flat 4-4-2, but even then i wonder if we have the midfield to hold it? 2 man CM would be tragic with mvb/noce or something

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Blame the 2 uptop who think 'we are fine as we are'

 

[MonsterKane]

I for one hope Allegri stays. He's not the most charismatic guy out there, but we should give him time. Yes, he's made some mistakes. But he's also new, and growing and learning. He's had two seasons and getting rid of him would be like throwing two years down the drain. We have a good thing going. Get rid of some overstock players, bring in one or two worldclass players, and we'll challenge for the CL next season.

Better one world class player than ten mediocre bosman squad rats.

You want world-class? I give you Bakaye Traore!

 

[fredrik9]

You want world-class? I give you Bakaye Traore!

His Wikipedia page says:
"On 21 April 2012, Traore agreed to join A.C. Milan"

But that must be bs, right?

 

[Ash]

Its funny that the same people who moan about the (lack of) quality in our squad over and over, are the same people who think the coach should perform miracles.

It's funny how people use the lack of quality in the squad to justify garbage performances against the likes of Fiorentina and Genoa

Funny how they try to justify that Allegri doesn't have the players needed to fit in his system yet don't criticize him for atleast attempting to fiddle around with his tactics cauz of it

Funny how they justify playing the likes of Urby and Seedorf at CAM, despite them being crap at it, cauz we don't have anyone else YET don't find fault in the coach for stubbornly sticking to a formation we fuckin' don't have players for

Funny how most of them use penalties and injuries as a crutch to explain why we are behind Juventus when only weeks back we were 4 points ahead of them despite those

Funny how they constantly justify his ******ed team selections and reactive nature and the fact that he failed to motivate his team when it really mattered

Funny how these are the same people who wrote off Juve at the beginning of the season calling their squad mediocre and said that our squad was more than enough to win the Scudetto

These are the same people who will overrate him to kingdom come yet won't criticise him when he fucks up....

I have no problems with Allegri staying on, but to blindly put all the blame on the management, shit squad, injuries and referee errors is pathetic. To say that he has no part in our current predicament is pathetic....

I was impressed by him last season when he atleast attempted to show a bit of imagination, but this season no offense, we have been shit. Plus the matter of how people overrated him for a Scudetto, which while remarkable, was won when our opponents were more or less shit....

 

[Senatore_M84]

His Wikipedia page says:
"On 21 April 2012, Traore agreed to join A.C. Milan"

But that must be bs, right?

with 50 average players our wage bill is as high as barcas.

Therefor berlusconi demands BARCA FOOTBALL

 

[Costanza]

It's funny how Di Matteo and Chelsea are getting this much praise while what we did against a much more fresh Barca was far superior, we only failed to get the result.

We defended better without TS and MvB and even Abate, Binho missed the same chance Drogba scored, Barca had no clear chances against us unlike Chelsea, and the only true PK in both legs was the Messi one that Anto did.

The Seria A matches after that are obviously off because of fatigue and the huge impact Barca loss had on many players, including Ibra.

Fiorentina and Catania are easily excused, Chiveo we had to start Yepes, Rino, De Ciglio
, and Bologna was a little bit unlucky.

If you lose Allegri, who finally found a Serie-A winning formula after Carletto and Leo failed and go for another guy is pure madness.

He may lack the ability to motivate people, but don't forget we don't have simple guys in our team. it's much more easy to motivate Vidal and Marchisio than Ibra and Seedorf.

Plus Ibra has to respect his coach much more than he does. Just because he has worked with Mou and Pep doesn't put him above Allegri. When Pep treated him like crap, he tried to suit his needs but here he doesn't want to even try things that he may not find good.

 

[Sod-Lod]

Allegri clearly under heavy fire having to go this low:

@Milanello

Allegri: "If a coach manages to win in his first season, then it means that he is very competent."

complete it with

AC Milan News ‏ @Milanello

--> "When you’re in such a big and important club like Milan, everything can happen."

 

[fredrik9]

with 50 average players our wage bill is as high as barcas.

Therefor berlusconi demands BARCA FOOTBALL

Of course we can play "Barca football".

We just need to pass the ball quicker, score more goals and have an 80% ball possession.

It's the responsibility of the coach to make it happen.

Duh.

But then again, who wants to play "Barca football"?
They're not good enough to win anything these days.

 

[fredrik9]

Plus Ibra has to respect his coach much more than he does. Just because he has worked with Mou and Pep doesn't put him above Allegri.

In what way hasn't Ibra shown Allegri respect?

I mean except the fact he walks Ibra's dog and delivers his pizzas?

 

[Ash]

Or because you have a slow brain and can't realize the realities.


Realities- 4-3-1-2 suits our squad best. Whether you like it or not.

1. Ibra does not perform well in xmas tree or 4-3-3. He's isolated. He complains. (see v. Arsenal)

2. We do not have midfield capable of playing just a 3 man. We need the focal point to compact it, since none of our guys can do it. Did you not see the meltdown v. arsenal or first half v. lecce, both which we used some sort of 3 forward system (elshaarawy or cassano w/ robi/zlatan). That had much more to do with our midfield incapable of doing anything and giving away easy chances under pressure than anything

3. Who else are you going to play there? Prince is out. Seedorf? He's DONE at AM. Aquilani? Didn't do well there. Muntari? Ok.


Yeah Urby is anything but ideal at AM, but he's the best of the horrible options he has.

Everyone wants to play fantasy football, but don't actually look at reality of what players can and can't do. Yes Urby sucks at AM, but as a team sadly we r better that way than in a 3 forward system or a with another player not named prince.

I'll blame allegri for not exploring other 2 striker systems like a 3-5-2 or a flat 4-4-2, but even then i wonder if we have the midfield to hold it? 2 man CM would be tragic with mvb/noce or something

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Blame the 2 uptop who think 'we are fine as we are'

You just contradicted yourself there. Exactly - we don't know - cauz we never tried it....

Just switching between two formations 4-3-3 (more like a hail mary tactic) and 4-3-1-2 doesn't mean he has attempted to switch it around.

I do blame the two bozos for creating an unbalanced squad but that still does not explain the numerous crap games we have played against squads much inferior to us. Hiding behind the excuse that 4-3-1-2 is the best option we got (especially considering we got only one player capable of playing at CAM) is lame, especially when you say we don't have the players for other formations. How do we have the players for this one then?

 

[Senatore_M84]

You just contradicted yourself there. Exactly - we don't know - cauz we never tried it....

Just switching between two formations 4-3-3 (more like a hail mary tactic) and 4-3-1-2 doesn't mean he has attempted to switch it around.

did you read the next sentence? but even then i'm not sure it'd work at all... and i laid out why


it all points to fact our midfield is so devoid of ability we need to stack it to make the team function in some sort of way

Hiding behind the excuse that 4-3-1-2 is the best option we got (especially considering we got only one player capable of playing at CAM) is lame, especially when you say we don't have the players for other formations. How do we have the players for this one then?

I stand by it. It's the formation which mazimizes our team.

The fact their maximum is this, shows the lack of quality... especially when you consider cassano/prince injuries.

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Lets look at it, seriously-

Nocerino- palermo level player, if he didn't move to milan he'd be at fiorentina/genoa etc.
Aquilani- unwanted anywhere. Talents there but a slew of other issues
Urby- fiorentina wants him
Muntari- no one wants him
Seedorf- getting offers to go to MLS, south america etc.

I could keep going
I mean this is just superficial way of looking at it, but it has it's points.