Official: Massimiliano Allegri Thread

[Ash]

Yes, yes. Deny what I said because I said 'if'.

Calling fantasy scenarios BS isnt denial

 

[SpartanMilan]

Yes, yes. Deny what I said because I said 'if'.

If Inter had gotten their legit PK, if Muntari had gotten his earlier legit red card, etc...


this team has fallen apart and he is a huge part of that

 

[Naraku]

Is he sacked yet?

 

[ikita]

Is he sacked yet?

Nope. so obviously the lunacy will not rest.

 

[Casualista]

Is he sacked yet?

If only

 

[Albertini]

Nope. so obviously the lunacy will not rest.

who's the girl in your sig?

 

[Congo Powers]

who's the girl in your sig?

his girlfriend

 

[Qaas]

If only

 

[threesics]

It is weird. Why don't we fire this sussy cunt?

 

[yaohan]

To Ian.

I don't think there are many unfair criticism against Allegri.

Is it all Allegri's fault for our position now? No. We can only judge him based on his role as a coach. Trust me, he is doing shit as coach.

Motivation, I can accept that players responsible for their own motivation, but Allegri's post games interviews were usually very poor and always find a blame; he sets a bad example for players to blame on luck.

Injuries, many users here already stated that Allegri's training method was a cause. Maybe still not 100% confirmed but there is a strong suspicion.

Player usage. Does Allegri know how to play people by their natural position? How does he think of playing Kaka dm? Did he figure out where Emanuelson should play?

Tactics. I cannot comment on something that does not exist.

Young player development. Half and half. On one hand he did help Shaarawy and Des, but by the same argument of player responsible of their own motivation, you cannot credit a coach for a player's success if you do not believe coach is responsible for their failure. Does that sound fair enough? Eg one cannot credit Allegri for SES (questionable) success if they do not believe Allegri is responsible for Pato's failure. You either argue it is player's responsibility or vice versa, not what suits your argument. Something task force like to do.

My frustration is opposite to yours. I see too many arguments defending Allegri with pure bs, strawman, exaggeration etc. eg "Liverpool lose to weaker teams too". To your credit, most of your argument at least are reasonable, unlike some of the other bs that goes around here.

 

[ikita]

If only

 

[belloefamoso]

Allegrip made history!
Milan's current Serie A campaign is the worst in the 3-point era (i.e. since 94-95) with just 19 points after 17 Serie A matches.

this funny coach, even sale of on Ebay! haha ridiculous manager ever!

 

[necromancer]

We're not only NOW doing poorly. We have been since 2010.

such poor. so fail. wow. many sad.

 

[leaf]

such poor. so fail. wow. many sad.

Pass ball to Ibra. Win.
Revolutionary tactic. Futuristic. Amaze

 

[necromancer]

Pass ball to Ibra. Win.
Revolutionary tactic. Futuristic. Amaze

Hmm? I thought you didn't approve of Ibra getting solely credited for title wins?

He's going to win another league title with the best squad again and will be hailed as better than Messi....then PSG will crash out of the CL and it'll be "not his fault"

Ibra's team wins = All Ibra
Ibra's team loses = Team loss

 

[leaf]

Hmm? I thought you didn't approve of Ibra getting solely credited for title wins?

Obviously I didn't think it's all Ibra. Allegri had a great squad that year, the best in Italy. He also had world class defenders, great midfielders and three strikers who each notched 14 league goals. Ibra was the best attacker though. I'll be careful to state the obvious next time

But don't worry...one day I will explain literary devices like sarcasm, hyperbole, irony, satire etc. Until then stick to #taskforcing
Baby steps

 

[necromancer]

Obviously I didn't think it's all Ibra. Allegri had a great squad that year, the best in Italy. He also had world class defenders, great midfielders and three strikers who each notched 14 league goals.

And yet you think we did poorly that season?

 

[leaf]

And yet you think we did poorly that season?

for the team we had yes. Winning a scudetto was great and all but our team play was disjointed back then too. Only difference is the individuals contributed more because they were better. Getting dumped out of the CL by Tottenham was disappointing

 

[ladro]

Calling fantasy scenarios BS isnt denial

 

[General]

Allegrip made history!
Milan's current Serie A campaign is the worst in the 3-point era (i.e. since 94-95) with just 19 points after 17 Serie A matches.

this funny coach, even sale of on Ebay! haha ridiculous manager ever!

Can someone explain what allegrip is supposed to mean?

Many thanks.

 

[yaohan]

for the team we had yes. Winning a scudetto was great and all but our team play was disjointed back then too. Only difference is the individuals contributed more because they were better. Getting dumped out of the CL by Tottenham was disappointing

Allegri is shit coach. Just stop defending him.

 

[Congo Powers]

for the team we had yes. Winning a scudetto was great and all but our team play was disjointed back then too. Only difference is the individuals contributed more because they were better. Getting dumped out of the CL by Tottenham was disappointing

 

[Soldier_of_god]

hate it when people downgrade our scudetto triumph by saying that there was a lack of competition, inter had leo as their coach, jube was in turmoil etc. We had the best squad that year, we had a loaded team which imo was on par with the top epl clubs. Only barca, real and bayern were better, hell even barca needed a bs penalty to beat us the year after. Besides we were missing silva for both legs, so maybe the result could have been different had he been available. We got dumped out tottenham because we had a depleted squad at the time due to an injury crisis which seems like prerequisite for every new season.

 

[necromancer]

for the team we had yes. Winning a scudetto was great and all but our team play was disjointed back then too. Only difference is the individuals contributed more because they were better. Getting dumped out of the CL by Tottenham was disappointing

Okay, that's clear then. Season is poor for you if team play was disjointed even if we win a Scudetto. Okay.

Many of us were satisfied with the title though. And these guys as well.

 

[Armin__m]

Shame we couldn`t build on it, thanks to Galliani and Allegri both being idiots.

 

[leaf]

Okay, that's clear then. Season is poor for you if team play was disjointed even if we win a Scudetto. Okay.

Many of us were satisfied with the title though. And these guys as well.

Your trolling isn't even funny. You used to be a great poster...almost Gaizka22 level...now you want to throw your independant thoughts away to be a mindless #taskforce groupie?
Be my guest.

Of course I was happy with the scudetto....but I won't give Allegri the lion's share of the credit for it given that we had by FAR the best and most expensive players in the league. In the CL, we were fighting with clubs at our level and we performed dismally. This alone should have tipped off that unless we're VASTLY superior to our opponents we'll get fucked....and now here we are in 13th FUCKING place because Shitelegrip actually detracts from the sum of 11 abilities instead of enhancing it. It really doesn't get any more FUCKING OBVIOUS


But don't play these silly innuendo games and support Shit-Legri. He is was and generally has been SHIT for Milan. If you love the club, you'd want him out EOD.

 

[necromancer]

Your trolling isn't even funny. You used to be a great poster...almost Gaizka22 level..

One has to constantly reinvent. The Gaizka style was boring and predictable. I'm trying to add a little Sage and a dash of MilanReality to that.

Of course I was happy with the scudetto....but I won't give Allegri the lion's share of the credit for it given that we had by FAR the best and most expensive players in the league. In the CL, we were fighting with clubs at our level and we performed dismally. This alone should have tipped off that unless we're VASTLY superior to our opponents we'll get fucked....and now here we are in 13th FUCKING place because Shitelegrip actually detracts from the sum of 11 abilities instead of enhancing it. It really doesn't get any more FUCKING OBVIOUS

Don't change the discussion to get up from where you've fallen. You said we were poor since 2010. I wondered whether you considered the Scudetto season poor as well. No one talked about Allegri's share of credit.

If you love the club, you'd want him out EOD.

That's a moronic statement to make. And a pointless one when talking to me since I've wanted a different coach for more than a year now.

 

[ikita]

One has to constantly reinvent. The Gaizka style was boring and predictable. I'm trying to add a little Sage and a dash of MilanReality to that.



Don't change the discussion to get up from where you've fallen. You said we were poor since 2010. I wondered whether you considered the Scudetto season poor as well. No one talked about Allegri's share of credit.



That's a moronic statement to make. And a pointless one when talking to me since I've wanted a different coach for more than a year now.

I think what leaf's trying to say is that, yea we won the scudetto that year, but our teamplay wasn't the best. if you watched our matches, you'd know this. from this point, it just kept deteriorating season after season with the big stars and the senators leaving.

allegri's share of credit? well now that we don't have those big stars anymore and we're failing miserably, even with potential stars like balotelli, and seasoned vets like de jong and kaka' there is enough premise to question allegri's share of credit in that scudetto season.

there is nothing that you or your friends can do or say, that will change this.

So we won the scudetto that year. surely that makes everything we did that season great right? Yea this reminds me of Pharaoh's trolling. in hindsight now, I can see how he's correct. you people cant see anything but 5 minutes in front of your face. all you care about is

#WINNING.

the root of the problem? well naturally you all don't care enough to get your hands dirty and dig it up to get rid of it. I believe this is a channeling of galliani and co.

#WINNING ----->#WEAREFINEASWEARE

 

[General]

^ what are you even saying here?

If I'm understanding you correctly, you're downplaying our last league title. That's absolutely ridiculous. Who cares if we won by 50 points on the table? We won the title.

Are people scared that it gives credit to Allegri and you just don't want a shred of credit to go to him? Who hurt you?


Oh and if we won every title then.. ya.. we are doing fine. so the winning = as fine as we are quip is an inherent douche canoe statement.

 

[necromancer]

I think what leaf's trying to say is that, yea we won the scudetto that year, but our teamplay wasn't the best. if you watched our matches, you'd know this. from this point, it just kept deteriorating season after season with the big stars and the senators leaving.

allegri's share of credit? well now that we don't have those big stars anymore and we're failing miserably, even with potential stars like balotelli, and seasoned vets like de jong and kaka' there is enough premise to question allegri's share of credit in that scudetto season.

there is nothing that you or your friends can do or say, that will change this.

So we won the scudetto that year. surely that makes everything we did that season great right? Yea this reminds me of Pharaoh's trolling. in hindsight now, I can see how he's correct. you people cant see anything but 5 minutes in front of your face. all you care about is

#WINNING.

the root of the problem? well naturally you all don't care enough to get your hands dirty and dig it up to get rid of it. I believe this is a channeling of galliani and co.

#WINNING ----->#WEAREFINEASWEARE

You are Leafy's alter-ego? #WINNING