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And Mandzukic is only rated by Bundesfans, Croatians and Indians.

Wait...

Mandzukic is linked with those...

And Balo isn't...

Despite the heavy rumours of Balotelli being linked with Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and many others?

What on Earth are you talking about? Do you just ignore all the rumours about Balotelli?

Heavy rumors? The only rumor he had was with arsenal and galatasaray :lol: . There may have been some rumors regarding chelsea and pool but not even worth substantiating. That way there isnt a big club zukic hasnt been linked into.

I know being a liverpool, italy coefficient fan usually means you dont get a chance to watch champions league beyond the first ko round where all your teams depart, if they make it there to begin with+ you dont watch bundesliga so you will excuse me if i dont take ur assessment on the matter that seriously.
 

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He has no highlight at 24. Its a fact that he has lower potential than balotelli.

But he has a brain that balotelli lacks and he has a temperament to keep pushing himself instead of sulking around. That is why heynckes chose him to lead the attack in probably the best bayern team in decades. And he delivered them a treble.

"the" balo cannot play targetman/most advanced of two strikers or wingers for milan and i only care about milan. He can only play SS (or so they say) for us. If he was versatile we wouldnt have half the problems we are having. But i'll be generous and say it also reflects the lack of versatility of the coach.
That Bayern side was perfectly suited for Mandzukic. His aggressive pressing was complemented by aggressive midfielders, and outstanding wingers and fullbacks could pick him out with a cross at will. We don't have any of that.

Balotelli can absolutely play all of those roles mentioned for Milan.
 

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Tfat, stahp, you're embarrassing yourself...
 

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Naturally. He was nowhere near his current level when at City or at Inter. Balotelli's output has gone up a lot since his Milan move. He seems a lot closer to realizing his potential than what it seemed pre-2013. He still has a long way to go, but comparisons with 5-season career guys like Mandzukic is pointless.


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He was at his height during the first 6 months of joining. Sure at that time even i harbored hopes he would continue and do well. But the past season his performance had a downward curve and a lot of it had to do with him and his approach to the game.

He has regressed.
 

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balo would never be good as a winger. CF or SS it is.
 

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If any team is building around balotelli as focal point regardless of his age, then they are asking to be screwed. You dont build around someone as inconsistent no matter how talented.
We should not be building around Balotelli, or Mandzukic, or any player for that matter. We should build a sustainable system for the players we have or can acquire that is not dependent on Balotelli wonder goals to bail them out.
 

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the team as a whole regressed, not balo specifically. He does have crap players to play with, however, i can see why people are getting annoyed at balo, its cause guys like luca toni, paulinho, callejon from midfield and a bunch of others have scored more or matched his goal scoring record this season.
 

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If any team is building around balotelli as focal point regardless of his age, then they are asking to be screwed. You dont build around someone as inconsistent no matter how talented.

But you want to build the team around De Sciglio, injury probe and inconsistent as fuck and we don't even know yet if he ever will surpass average standards that he's been showing.

And if u all will use the Marcelo can't defend argument, then look at Abate and Serginho, hell even Constamt. They were not even defenders but the coaching staff taught them how to defend and there were a lot of occasions where they excelled at defending and others were they haven't. Defending is about positioning yourself tactically, it's an understanding and reading of the game, however dribbling, touch, technique and shooting in the most part are characteristics that you can't just get by learning, you have to be talented for that --- De Sciglio is NOT that player, Marcelo is.
 

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oh my God please
 

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If a striker isnt scoring a goal per game by the time hes 24, sell. Wayyyyy to inconsistant.
 

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That Bayern side was perfectly suited for Mandzukic. His aggressive pressing was complemented by aggressive midfielders, and outstanding wingers and fullbacks could pick him out with a cross at will. We don't have any of that.

Balotelli can absolutely play all of those roles mentioned for Milan.
Truth but,
Obviously he wont be winning a treble with us. But he is a better player iin the final 3rd than balotelli is. Last year the problem upfront was getting into the box and finishing. Balo couldnt do either since without a dead ball situation he was quite clueless on his options.

And his lack of movement upfront meant he would never be in a critical position to pass the ball to. This forced him inward into midfield which meant there was no cf.

The biggest + point about mandzukic is exactly what milan lack upfront. Movement and finishing rather than creation. In fact, seriously speaking, his movement would create more goal scoring chances for us than balo as CF.
 

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But you want to build the team around De Sciglio, injury probe and inconsistent as fuck and we don't even know yet if he ever will surpass average standards that he's been showing.

And if u all will use the Marcelo can't defend argument, then look at Abate and Serginho, hell even Constamt. They were not even defenders but the coaching staff taught them how to defend and there were a lot of occasions where they excelled at defending and others were they haven't. Defending is about positioning yourself tactically, it's an understanding and reading of the game, however dribbling, touch, technique and shooting in the most part are characteristics that you can't just get by learning, you have to be talented for that --- De Sciglio is NOT that player, Marcelo is.

What? I have never even addressed the topic of de sciglio or marcelo. Who builds a team around RB anyway.
 

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oh my God please

:thumbsup:, i love it but i prefer jovetic over mandzukic :o
 

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oh my God please

wait.. did I miss something? why are you mentioning these names in bold?
 

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oh my God please

where is Balotelli????? :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
 

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Fuck it. Just gimme Javi Matinez and i wont care about a thing in the world.
 

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gabriel silva, jovetic/balo and baselli and markovic please.
 

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Why aren't we linked with Gustavo yet?
 

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Are we trying to buy every ******ed player possible? Why are we looking to offload Niang then? Niang, Balo, Taarabt, Mandžukić, Rami... Who else?
 

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Truth but,
Obviously he wont be winning a treble with us. But he is a better player iin the final 3rd than balotelli is. Last year the problem upfront was getting into the box and finishing. Balo couldnt do either since without a dead ball situation he was quite clueless on his options.

And his lack of movement upfront meant he would never be in a critical position to pass the ball to. This forced him inward into midfield which meant there was no cf.

The biggest + point about mandzukic is exactly what milan lack upfront. Movement and finishing rather than creation. In fact, seriously speaking, his movement would create more goal scoring chances for us than balo as CF.
I'm not going to bother. This will come down to a fundamental question of what type of striker you prefer. You like the Mandzukic, I like the Zlatan with teammates (Nocegoal :proud:) around him exploiting the space created by the defenders he draws out.

I do agree that Balotelli seriously needs to improve his movement in the box as we simply have no other option. What better coach than Pippo for this?

His finishing was bad form I am confident.
 

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funny how everyone started putting Baselli in our first 11 lineup for the next season, guy still needs a lot of improvement, same happened with Saponara, everyone was saying he's the big deal but he had like 90? mins of playing time in the whole season :D If we're getting Baselli I'm 99% sure he wont be a starter for atleast half a season..
 

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wait.. did I miss something? why are you mentioning these names in bold?

We're close to signing Gabriel Silva.
Schweinsteiger is a dream of mine since 2006 and there were reports yesterday he was going to leave Bayern. :D
 

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Mandzukic is way too overrated by the croatians on this forum.

Mr Milanista is the only Croatian thats pro Mandzukic here

Myself, tfat, sagex swagger and few others arent croatian as far as I Know
 

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I'm not going to bother. This will come down to a fundamental question of what type of striker you prefer. You like the Mandzukic, I like the Zlatan with teammates (Nocegoal :proud:) around him exploiting the space created by the defenders he draws out.

I do agree that Balotelli seriously needs to improve his movement in the box as we simply have no other option. What better coach than Pippo for this?

His finishing was bad form I am confident.

I dont think balotelli will ever be like ibra. He doesnt have the body size or technique.

He should try and be more like Henry.
 

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He doesn't score in big games

what a shit argument, how much bigger than CL Final does it get
 
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