The Rumour Commode XXXV: Champions Edition

[Neo'82]

Would this still happen with Thiaw?

Of course. Thiaw currently plays second tier bundes football. He will replace Gabbia.

 

[Ronin]

If we get another CB of Tomori's level, we are set in that department for 10 year. Midfield is already solid - Benny, Tonali, Adli, fullbacks too - Calabria + Theo(if he confirms) + Kalulu as FB/CB. We are already on the path to having a monster squad... what other teams have this?

Ex. Liverpool have a very solid squad and depth, but most of their core is ~30 y.o. Soon they'll have to rebuild. They have the money to do so, but it's never easy

 

[Hitchens]

Would this still happen with Thiaw?

Good question. I think Botman is Romagnoli replacement if he comes, only ahead of Kjær in the pecking order.

We need to get better at sales, I think there may be a plan to sell Gabbia sometime down the line, after loan spells.

I like the look of Thiaw, I want both. Kjærs health will be unpredictable and Romagnoli won't stay in my view.

 

[Swagotelli]

I rather prefer this kid for 8m than Botman for 33m, especially since there doesn’t seem to be much difference between them (quality wise).

You can save 25m and buy good RW or CM for that money.


It feels uneccessary to buy both of them, I don't want to have two young and talented players like Kalulu and Thiaw who will rot on the bench. Unpopular opinion or not but I'll rather renew Romagnoli.

How do we know he is same quality? No one heard of him two days ago. Botman has played in a very solid Lille defense that was able to eclipse unimaginable $ gap with PSG and win title.

 

[Samaldinho]

If catastrophic injuries didn't happen to Milan and Napoli, Inter would be a distant third.

 

[Hitchens]

If we get another CB of Tomori's level, we are set in that department for 10 year. Midfield is already solid - Benny, Tonali, Adli, fullbacks too - Calabria + Theo(if he confirms) + Kalulu as FB/CB. We are already on the path to having a monster squad... what other teams have this?

Ex. Liverpool have a very solid squad and depth, but most of their core is ~30 y.o. Soon they'll have to rebuild. They have the money to do so, but it's never easy

Good perspective.

We lack a great RW and could've used Vlahovic, but other than that we have so many players who will only become better and better.

 

[Swagotelli]

If we get another CB of Tomori's level, we are set in that department for 10 year. Midfield is already solid - Benny, Tonali, Adli, fullbacks too - Calabria + Theo(if he confirms) + Kalulu as FB/CB. We are already on the path to having a monster squad... what other teams have this?

Ex. Liverpool have a very solid squad and depth, but most of their core is ~30 y.o. Soon they'll have to rebuild. They have the money to do so, but it's never easy

Days of being set for 10 years are gone. Players are staying for 4-5 years and moving on unless you are an oligarch club that throws stupid money at them

 

[rossonero1]

Ah, I hate it when Vitiello says "difficult".

I hate it too. Journalists say that to cover their ass incase there is no deal.

 

[rossonero1]

I rather prefer this kid for 8m than Botman for 33m, especially since there doesn’t seem to be much difference between them (quality wise).

You can save 25m and buy good RW or CM for that money.


It feels uneccessary to buy both of them, I don't want to have two young and talented players like Kalulu and Thiaw who will rot on the bench. Unpopular opinion or not but I'll rather renew Romagnoli.

They'll probably get a young CB now and then Botman in the summer. Romagnoli is likely gone.

 

[Hitchens]

If catastrophic injuries didn't happen to Milan and Napoli, Inter would be a distant third.

So what?

They happened.

 

[rossonero1]

When you hear Milan only have 5-6M to offer it feels like the scene in the beginning of Moneyball when Billy Beane goes to the owner asking for more money & he says no lol.

 

[rossonero1]

 

[Ronin]

Days of being set for 10 years are gone. Players are staying for 4-5 years and moving on unless you are an oligarch club that throws stupid money at them

We'll see. I think Paolo +Pioli can bring this culture back... and the players I've mentioned seem to be pretty committed. Certainly Calabria, Tonali and seems like Tomori and Theo too (to be confirmed).

The management needs to work on making the club and therefore the players more commercially appealing, so that they know that by staying here they can make good $ not just from their salary.

 

[Ronin]

When you hear Milan only have 5-6M to offer it feels like the scene in the beginning of Moneyball when Billy Beane goes to the owner asking for more money & he says no lol.

I don't think it's correct to say that's only what we can offer, but rather that's how much we are willing to offer. We will not overpay. That seems like a reasonable price for a kid from 2nd league of Bundesfodder...

 

[Samaldinho]

So what?

They happened.

Well, since the topic of "which team has built the best" is flying around, I think its relevant that two teams have done a superior job to Inter.

Napoli, who have spent more than us, are in the same fucking boat. We are a better team than them, since we've had 4 points stolen, with more injuries and absences.

I just find it funny that people think that if we just bought x or y that success would be guaranteed.

The hysteria is so high here that people are saying Gosens is the best LB in Italy.

Imagine if Milan spent 25m on a player who has made 6 league appearances the entire season.

It is the inconsistency that gets under my skin.

 

[rossonero1]

I don't think it's correct to say that's only what we can offer, but rather that's how much we are willing to offer. We will not overpay. That seems like a reasonable price for a kid from 2nd league of Bundesfodder...

I suppose, but if you think this kid is going to be good & you think you can make a profit on him in the future if you sell, are you going to let a few million stop you?

 

[Levi]

If we get another CB of Tomori's level, we are set in that department for 10 year. Midfield is already solid - Benny, Tonali, Adli, fullbacks too - Calabria + Theo(if he confirms) + Kalulu as FB/CB. We are already on the path to having a monster squad... what other teams have this?

Ex. Liverpool have a very solid squad and depth, but most of their core is ~30 y.o. Soon they'll have to rebuild. They have the money to do so, but it's never easy

Monster squad? OK.

 

[Samaldinho]

... is this real life?

12m for Bajrami would be a steal.

Unlike future Balon d'Or winner Daichi Kamada, I have actually watched Bajrami play. The kid would be perfect for our CAM spot.

If more teams played with a CAM, he'd be much more expensive. Honestly, send Brahim back to Madrid in the summer, give Bajrami the 10 shirt.

 

[Congo Powers]

Monster squad? OK.

 

[AC_Wesley]

I think Fiorentina struck gold with this guy



Selling Vlahovic and getting this guy. This looks like properly done business by Commisso

 

[Hitchens]

Well, since the topic of "which team has built the best" is flying around, I think its relevant that two teams have done a superior job to Inter.

Napoli, who have spent more than us, are in the same fucking boat. We are a better team than them, since we've had 4 points stolen, with more injuries and absences.

I just find it funny that people think that if we just bought x or y that success would be guaranteed.

The hysteria is so high here that people are saying Gosens is the best LB in Italy.

Imagine if Milan spent 25m on a player who has made 6 league appearances the entire season.

It is the inconsistency that gets under my skin.

It's hard not be a little annoyed seeing your rivals making shrewd moves for the title and we're giving players their first professional contract.

But we are a pretty well set. We will regain Tomori soon and slowly we are becoming whole again.

Good results and a break from mercato nerves will do wonders for us all.

 

[rossonero1]

I think Fiorentina struck gold with this guy



Selling Vlahovic and getting this guy. This looks like properly done business by Commisso

Commisso was smart in selling high on Vlahovic now and not waiting around until his contract expires when you know he had no intention of renewing.

Milan could learn a thing or two. Lost out on millions in regards to Donnarumma & Hakan last season & this upcoming summer with Kessie & Romagnoli.

 

[Hitchens]

I think Fiorentina struck gold with this guy



Selling Vlahovic and getting this guy. This looks like properly done business by Commisso

We were linked to him in the summer.

 

[Neo'82]

Let's put the romanticism aside. The 5m wildcard has been in play for a few seasons. Do you guys actually follow the process. The stadium won't be here until 2027, more likely 2030. The club has to generate extra revenue through player sales at some point. Kalulu, Fode, Pobega, Gabbia, Lazetic and likely Thiaw would be a collection primed to develop either at Milan or else where to maximize their values. They eventually earn a place in the first 11 or provide a nice return on the initial modest investment. Either way, Milan profits on their growth.

 

[leaf]

Also Winning 1 title NOW vs slowly building a monster that's gonna dominate for years... glad that the management is choosing the 2nd option

You TrUsT dA pLaN groupies have ZERO guarantees of winning shit. Zero
With all the best planning and management there are still no guarantees.
Now let's say it's a five year plan. Is anyone here going to put money on us winning the Scudetto in 2027?
Fuck no. There are NO guarantees in football. This is the point that the ppl who oppose my POV make all the time.
Man City keeps splashing the cash and 0 CL (although I blame Pep more than their management).
PSG also. Juventus also.

But these three aforementioned end up winning their league because they have constructed their teams to OVERPOWER the rest of their domestic leagues.
We are almost in this position, sans the reinforcements. To not pull the trigger here is almost criminal.

So where is this fucking idiotic assumption that we'll be great in 5-10 years if only we tRuSt Da PlAn? Bullshit.
You take the chances as they come when they come. There's nothing to suggest that at the end of the plan we will be a powerhouse again. Nothing.
We could be as well built as we want, if Inter or Juve or somebody else gets a super injection of cash and the top level players they need, they will kick our ass AGAIN.
So, taking your (and the rest of the ppl who think like you) reasoning to it's natural conclusion...we will have a fantastically well run and built club in 5-10 years...but still aren't guaranteed any trophies. Wouldn't you prefer to have your plan just modified slightly AND a scudetto or CL or two?
That's what I'm advocating for. Take the opportunities as they come. No risk no reward.

Look at how well Atalanta is run. Will they win anything? No. No matter how well run you are, unless you make a splash every now and then, you won't win shit.
Right now, we have the best chance in a fucking decade to win the scudetto.

Also, again, as I have taken great pains to state...WE AREN'T ASKING TO BREAK THE BANK.
We have three slots we need to fill that would put us in a better position to win for 2022.
Three. MAX 90M (this just in....three (3) 30M players would cost 90M )...but if we get stopgap signings, it could cost even less.
Are you really telling me that we couldn't get a Diego Costa? Just to be that CF goal threat that we ARE missing?

 

[Chiko]

Commisso was smart in selling high on Vlahovic now and not waiting around until his contract expires when you know he had no intention of renewing.

Milan could learn a thing or two. Lost out on millions in regards to Donnarumma & Hakan last season & this upcoming summer with Kessie & Romagnoli.

Vlahovic made it clear he wanted to leave. Commisso was begging him to stay, but Vlahovic made he’s intentions clear. Our players just lie and string us along. Similar to the Dembele situation.

 

[Qaas]

RnB Older vs Younger generation

OLDER : The mature side of RnB. They've been through many things in life. They understand the concept of "spending money responsibly" more than anyone. Having money, not necessarily can spent money. They knew that they live not just for today. They loving Milan like their own child. They support it in every possible way. Collecting every shirt, buying every capsule, coming to SanSiro in a match day, buying worthless digital coin, and even buying Milan itself is the biggest dream that they want to achieve. They cheer for Milan in glorious day, and supported it even in the darkest era. They enjoy the progress. A true embodiment of an "Old Guard"

YOUNGER : The recent phenomenon. Their still live under the roof of their parents. They only know how to spent money, and don't even want to know where the money came from. Having money = can spent money. They always envy when their neighbour buying a shiny new toy, while at the same time didn't want to acknowleged the diamond in their home. They grew up in modern day when everything is instant. They hate progress. "Waiting" and "Patient" is concept that they believe it's came from an alien ages ago. They said they support Milan, but they never buy any product from their team. Even the match they watch is accessed via illegal streaming. Definitely a generation that needs guidance.

*ps : sorry for my bad English

 

[Samaldinho]

It's hard not be a little annoyed seeing your rivals making shrewd moves for the title and we're giving players their first professional contract.

But we are a pretty well set. We will regain Tomori soon and slowly we are becoming whole again.

Good results and a break from mercato nerves will do wonders for us all.

I don't see Inter making good moves though.

Gosens is a good move if he can stop being injured. But they're losing Perisic. They use their left side as the more attacking side, I would argue, comfortably, that Perisic is the better attacking threat of the two.

Correa has been seen, by their own fans, as a waste of money.

Dzeko has scored 2 in the last 12 games. He's almost 36. Yet he's considered a masterstroke. I say this as someone who wished Dzeko was here.

It is the inconsistency though that gets me. How can someone complain about Giroud or Ibra and then praise Dzeko? How is Correa not seen as the massive failure that he is?

Napoli has spent more than us, doing all the things that many of these fans want us to do, but they're worse off than us. We are a better team than them.

People are complaining over the fact we paid less for Tonali. It is grating.

 

[rossonero1]

Vlahovic made it clear he wanted to leave. Commisso was begging him to stay, but Vlahovic made he’s intentions clear. Our players just lie and string us along. Similar to the Dembele situation.

Then you have to be pretty naïve to string someone along & not realize you are getting played more than once.

 

[rossonero1]

Let's put the romanticism aside. The 5m wildcard has been in play for a few seasons. Do you guys actually follow the process. The stadium won't be here until 2027, more likely 2030. The club has to generate extra revenue through player sales at some point. Kalulu, Fode, Pobega, Gabbia, Lazetic and likely Thiaw would be a collection primed to develop either at Milan or else where to maximize their values. They eventually earn a place in the first 11 or provide a nice return on the initial modest investment. Either way, Milan profits on their growth.

They'll let them just walk for free lol.