The Rumour Commode XXXIX: A Cardinal Sin

[Omer]

as long as we are in the hands of an investment firm/hedge fund, we should not expect any investments. we will always only spend what the club can afford and not a penny more. these are not owners like kroenke is at arsenal for example. the man owns an nba team, he doesn't care about money at all.

i also have no issue with our approach, because i don't expect to dominate serie a and win back-to-back titles when your annual budget is 30-50mil. the only thing that baffles me is how little the club itself can or is allowed to invest?! our finances are among the healthiest in italy but the best we can do in winter is a loan with option or a transfer for 2mil. ridiculous.
bayern is often mentioned here as an example for sustainability but they have worked 10-15 years until they were in this position. in a league without real competition. we don't have that time if we want to compete for the CL in 3-5 years.

Chelsea are owned by an investment consortium. But those are really big groups. There are a group of different owners each worth a few billion. And Chelsea is spending the most!

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

As a chilean myself I'm so happy we're finally linked to Osorio.

Very very talented player, highly rated by south americans.

Would be 60m if he was in Brazil.

He's very flamboyant, fast good dribbler, good first touch, think like di maria.

Can play rw lw am, very versatile one of his strengths.

If I was going to rate him on potential id say 9. Maybe 8 to be safe.

Think like a mix between mbappe and hakimi facialwise.

What can I say? Maldini has done it again.

Not sure if you're being serious haha

So are you endorsing him, like seriously?

 

[Samaldinho]

My theory isn't about total minutes played, it's about time between games, how many consecutive games we play our players with such quick turn arounds.

I haven't checked, but that's my theory.

 

[Curupira]

as long as we are in the hands of an investment firm/hedge fund, we should not expect any investments. we will always only spend what the club can afford and not a penny more. these are not owners like kroenke is at arsenal for example. the man owns an nba team, he doesn't care about money at all.

i also have no issue with our approach, because i don't expect to dominate serie a and win back-to-back titles when your annual budget is 30-50mil. the only thing that baffles me is how little the club itself can or is allowed to invest?! our finances are among the healthiest in italy but the best we can do in winter is a loan with option or a transfer for 2mil. ridiculous.
bayern is often mentioned here as an example for sustainability but they have worked 10-15 years until they were in this position. in a league without real competition. we don't have that time if we want to compete for the CL in 3-5 years.

 

[sheva]

didn't even realize anus was playing the long con, thank you for that

 

[Hugh Janus]

Not sure if you're being serious haha

So are you endorsing him, like seriously?

Yes sir!

 

[Curupira]

Chelsea are owned by an investment consortium. But those are really big groups. There are a group of different owners each worth a few billion. And Chelsea is spending the most!

If you got money why would you wanna spend it in Serie A?

Small market league with low revenues, and you have municipalities trying their best to make it so you rent their run-down stadium for as long as they can

 

[sheva]

maldini probably plotting to call the cops on bakayoko again out of spite

 

[Alo88]

We could see signs of what was to come prior to the World Cup. Barely beat relegation fodder and our style of play was deteriorating fast. It was inevitable that we were not going to be able to keep grinding wins in that manner. It’s simply infeasible to snatch 90’ wins every week. We did what Roma did to us to a couple of teams this season. We were so happy that despite how we played we got those 3 points against Fiorentina.

It was only a matter of time before those signs would catch up to us and actually hurt us tangibly. That’s on Pioli for not changing anything.


I was just thinking about this yesterday. He did bits for us and then he chose to dip when the closing concluded. He was the most competent person in the management. He knew something wasn’t right with Redbird and chose to bounce. Everyone in that sector will keep it professional and say that they simply want a different challenge but his departure and Maldini’s tenuous renewal showed us Redbird isn’t to be trusted.

I think in Gazidis case it had more to do with his health problems. The man just beat cancer a couple of months ago. But you never know how long it will stay away...

 

[Curupira]

 

[vB9]

The Rossoneri have €40-50m available for the 2023 summer transfer window. It’s just as much as last summer when they signed Charles De Ketelaere from Club Brugge for €32m plus add-ons.

Didnt sum say that we were going to have a important transfer window in summer? Not with these figures we're not.

 

[Alo88]

Then:





Now:

 

[Alo88]

What if Gazidis was actually the one having Maldinis back towards Elliott? I mean where the fuck is Giorgio Furlani!?

 

[Curupira]

Don't worry Coop Bayless, I didn’t forget about you.

I will reply when I get the chance.

 

[sheva]

ac milan winter mercato 2023

 

[Alo88]

 

[vB9]

He is a roma level director... fecking send him back.

Not Leo, not Boban... but rickyfeckingmassara will be the one who takes Paolo out.

 

[Pigeon]

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[Samaldinho]

If you got money why would you wanna spend it in Serie A?

Small market league with low revenues, and you have municipalities trying their best to make it so you rent their run-down stadium for as long as they can

Because there's a bigger margin to make if you succeed, even if the risk is higher.

Serie A is a mismanaged and undervalued league.

There are challenges, but there is a lot of American money going into Serie A, but I also think that's because it's a league that permits private ownership of the clubs you'd want to buy. You can't buy clubs in Germany (50+1 rule), you can't buy clubs in Spain, Ligue 1 is a mess, so Italy is all that you have left.

The infrastructure problems are what held back English clubs in the 80s and 90s, and once they made things more corporate and family friendly, there were complaints from Roy Keane and the atmosphere in England sucks, but it helped drive a huge stream of revenue mixed with a collective approach from the clubs to unite maximize their power. Barca and Real do this, meanwhile Serie A teams actively sabotage each other.

Italy needs to wake the fuck up, or they will fall further behind.

 

[Omer]

If you got money why would you wanna spend it in Serie A?

Small market league with low revenues, and you have municipalities trying their best to make it so you rent their run-down stadium for as long as they can

They wouldn't spend the level that Chelsea is spending! But there is a big space in between Redshit spending and Chelsea spending.

And the stadium, it seem Sesto arms are "wide open"!

 

[Omer]

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He is a roma level director... fecking send him back.

Not Leo, not Boban... but rickyfeckingmassara will be the one who takes Paolo out.

Maybe time to promote Moncada to SD!!

 

[Curupira]

Gerry:

 

[Pingu]

Let's face it, the day Gazidis left the company everything got worse

I wonder who thought of this sentiment...

Ever since Gazidis left... that is when things really went south.

How great minds think alike.

 

[MilanBG]

Didnt sum say that we were going to have a important transfer window in summer? Not with these figures we're not.

50 m + sales is not that bad. Salad, Pobega, Messias, FBT and Rebic can be sold for 30-35 m in total. Actually could be much more if they start performing like professional players. Pessina will bring 7.5 m. Colombo can be sold for 7-8 m (hopefully with buy-back). With a little imagination we can have 100+ m. Cashing in on CDK is also not excluded. Despite him flopping he is still sellable for 20-22 m easily.

I didn't have much time to read twitter these days. Please someone confirm a couple of things:
1. Did Theo really say that the bald genius is killing them in training or this was another fake news?
2. Are we seriously in for this Chilean kid? For the Primavera or he can perform for the first team?

 

[SecondStar]

as long as we are in the hands of an investment firm/hedge fund, we should not expect any investments. we will always only spend what the club can afford and not a penny more. these are not owners like kroenke is at arsenal for example. the man owns an nba team, he doesn't care about money at all.

i also have no issue with our approach, because i don't expect to dominate serie a and win back-to-back titles when your annual budget is 30-50mil. the only thing that baffles me is how little the club itself can or is allowed to invest?! our finances are among the healthiest in italy but the best we can do in winter is a loan with option or a transfer for 2mil. ridiculous.
bayern is often mentioned here as an example for sustainability but they have worked 10-15 years until they were in this position. in a league without real competition. we don't have that time if we want to compete for the CL in 3-5 years.

Redbird is different to elliott for a few reasons.
1) Redbird is a private equity firm started by a guy that isn’t worth much so they are going to be more cautious in how they spend and how they choose to operate strategically whereas elliott is a hedge fund operated by a billionaire who has no difficulty investing as long as he can get a roi. We saw papa singer dig into his pockets a few times to make purchases but more importantly to restructure our credit standing.
2) Redbird needs investors. Not one or two but several investors to develop Milan as a new piece to their portfolio. Elliott did the heavy lifting of making Milan a desirable entity to invest in with their management over the years and they want to continue reaping the fruits of their labor, that’s why they are still lingering around. Gerry won’t spend a dime without ensuring that he can explain to his richer (billionaire) pals why this investment is necessary. Basically, he is doing the role he did at Goldman Sachs, controlling Milan to suit the internet of shareholders. If he can’t explain it to his shareholders, they won’t greenlight whatever it is he is trying to do.

Wish we were sold to a billionaire instead of a glorified general manager. Then, we would be able to spend without seeking second, third and fourth opinions from shareholders and instead just push a button at the owners instruction.

 

[Pigeon]

Gerry:

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paolo walking out of the room:

 

[Hugh Janus]

I think with Messias they paid less than the loan redemption amount. The news said they paid 2 mil this summer to sign him which makes 4 mi total. That's around the right price for Messias.

Piatek was signed by Leonardo after he fucked up by signing Higuain and they to had get Higuain's 18 mil gross salary of the books! They actually saved money by getting Piatek to replace Higuain.

2m loan fee in 2021/22, then 4.5+2m bonuses last summer which makes it for a total of +/- 8.5m.

This Leonardo bad Maldini good narative is hilarious, the fact is Maldini is working for us since 18/19 and was present for the Laxalt, Castillejo, and Higuain-Caldara disasterclass transfers, even though I didn't mention those.

 

[Tantalis]

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[papaberlu]

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Thank you Gerry

Just put Moncada in charge at this point

I'd rather watch some immigrant 18-year-old from Ligue 1 try and figure out how to dribble

Than watch a 30-year-old delivery guy learn how to pass a ball

 

[papaberlu]

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