The Rumour Commode XLI: Ragnarok

[Dena]

Please sign Greenwood and Thuram, imagine spitter and rapist in same attack, holy shit

 

[Wild]

There it is -

so question - do you think Paqueta would be successful at Milan now?
- citing him playing for a poor Brazil NT and a squad in the lowest of European competitions shows how far you always reach to make the case for your perspective

Maldini biggest work was to offload Paqueta.
Am a Brazil fan & when people here were praising him i was poking my eyes out.
Dear lord what a scam of a player.
That was during the best world cup ever.

 

[Kojak]

ruthlessness means fuckall in this case. origi can just decide to spend the next few years collecting the paycheck and staying benched..its not like he was used to playing at lpool anyways

Not everyone's happy to just sit around and collect welfare for nothing like you

 

[jawz10]

no need to wait

dork and a loser

Good good, keep your hands raised while we count you:


By the way, aren't you the guy that posted the picture of the little African boys dancing and said this was going to be Moncada's next group of transfers?

 

[Kojak]

Another snake in the Primavera...

TMW: Milan Primavera star Eletu rejected offer of five-year renewal - the latest

It seems AC Milan will have a fight on their hands to keep hold of Primavera midfielder Victor Eletu after he rejected a deal, a report claims.

sempremilan.com

 

[Pingu]

Another snake in the Primavera...

TMW: Milan Primavera star Eletu rejected offer of five-year renewal - the latest

It seems AC Milan will have a fight on their hands to keep hold of Primavera midfielder Victor Eletu after he rejected a deal, a report claims.

sempremilan.com

Showing solidarity with Maldini like the rest of the squad who handed in their transfer notices or won't renew.

Oh wait...

 

[Samaldinho]

Luke Skywalker’s every sentence was not dripping with derisive sarcasm, sir.

Me? Sarcastic?

 

[Master Smurf]

Maldini biggest work was to offload Paqueta.
Am a Brazil fan & when people here were praising him i was poking my eyes out.
Dear lord what a scam of a player.
That was during the best world cup ever.

I have to say, when he first arrived under Gattuso (right?) and played those lovely forward balls to Piatek I thought we had found something but then it was all back to the defender like he is posting up in Basketball and one or two tricks.

 

[taura]

Not everyone's happy to just sit around and collect welfare for nothing like you

and what exactly was origi doing for the past 5 years?

 

[Omer]

Disagree. First of all I would like to see someone actually paying that money for the motioned clubs, Man City is playing and winning in the EPL that has TV rights 3 times higher, matchday revenues 3 times higher and sponsorship deals that are financed by their owners (this is conflict of interest btw). All 3 of them broke FFP rules many times and their owners do not care about accumulating debts (PSG and Man City are pure showing off for petrol owners) and Real is all about politics. They would be bankrupted many times in the past if they are not a club that makes a statement of Spanish politics ... Most importantly they all have stadiums. Say thank you to Italian bureaucracy why this is not a case in Italy.


Ultimately do you really care only about winning even if it comes from the bloody money and petrodollars. A. If yes, they you certainly do not care that Maldini is not there any more. But more importantly, for a decade Milan was left without ownership, without vision, and thus we are not paying the price. At least, there is someone who is seeing potential to bring it back where it deserves. Every year before Elliott and RB was just putting us deeper in the shirt. Deeper you are it is harder to get back and question is even if you can.. accept it!

What are you disagreeing about? That football clubs are not valued like regular businesses?

Man Utd owners just got a bid of 7.4 billion to buy the club from some Qatari Sheikh. ( https://www.arabianbusiness.com/lif...-4bn-bid-sets-friday-deadline-to-accept-offer ) And it's a club listed on the stock market. They make profits but not enough profit to justify a 7 billion valuation if was a regular business.

Chelsea got sold for 3 billion after the owner Abramovich paid 400 mil for Chelsea and then spent 1 billion on paying losses over the years.

You are talking about Elliott and Milan? Elliot got the team for 300-350 mil after the loan default and then spent 400 mil on Milan's losses before selling it for it 1.1 / 1.2 billion. RB is not Elliott. Elliott was fixing the club but still letting it make losses. And the club's valuation was growing.

And if there are rich oil owners willing to pay for top clubs, that just confirms that top clubs will have a premium price over what a regular business with the same profits is worth.

 

[Neruda2.0]

Apparently he's not on that much at City so it's not a deal-breaker.

i really like Aké

 

[Neruda2.0]

why salad ???? fuck off

 

[Samaldinho]

I have to say, when he first arrived under Gattuso (right?) and played those lovely forward balls to Piatek I thought we had found something but then it was all back to the defender like he is posting up in Basketball and one or two tricks.

 

[Kojak]

I can imagine Moncada, Furlani + Cardinale holding regular conference calls throughout the season LAUGHING at the signings of CDK, Orgi, Messias, Florenzi etc

 

[MilanBG]

Another snake in the Primavera...

TMW: Milan Primavera star Eletu rejected offer of five-year renewal - the latest

It seems AC Milan will have a fight on their hands to keep hold of Primavera midfielder Victor Eletu after he rejected a deal, a report claims.

sempremilan.com

I wouldn't say so. Pioli has been a Milan coach for 4 years and he hasn't given a single minute to a Primavera player. The best our Primavera players can hope for is a loan to Serie B.
Just a random example - Chaka Traore featured in 3 Serie A games in 2020/2021 for Parma (he actually gave us the win ). Yeah, just a few minutes, but still something for such a young player. After that - 2 full seasons with Milan and zero call ups for the men's team.

 

[vB9]

agents really hate breaking agreements with clubs.

Not with Roma they dont...

 

[Ryo]

Youth project DOESN'T mean every single signing has to be <30...you can have a handful of experienced players in the side like Kjaer, Giroud + Ibra to guide the youngsters but not too many i.e. GKs, Florenzi + Messias etc.

Like I said before, Gundogan has been the best mid in football this season and will be coming off a treble and bring leadership and a winning mentality to the side which is sorely needed following the departures of Maldini + Ibra.

I can't think of a reason why they WOULDN'T want him.

Did I mention he's really fucking awesome?!!

See, your first paragraph was basically Paolo's idea. To mix in youth with potential with experienced players.
Paolo's gone now, so what the current Milan management deem to be acceptable remains to be seen, but from what we've seen thus far, it's all been U29 players who play their way into their prime with us. Kamada (26) indicates this. We have yet to see any movements from management to contradict this pattern.

Also, your last couple of lines seems like a "Kojak wants management to want" thing, not exactly what Milan management have shown to want thing.

 

[sheva]

moncada had been an employee at this club for years, what are you even saying?

that moncada has took the corporate ladder after declaring how much he adores paolo just two years ago. that was also said in jest and i have no claims against him since that's the game.

the actual point was the fact that both him and furlani will be tested regarding their ability to sell fodder, same argument that went against maldini. i don't know if moncada has prior experience in that, furlani as well.

 

[Samaldinho]

I don't know.... This is the number given by the analysts. I think it's because of PSG star players like Mbappe, Neymar, Messi,that they have a huge amount of mind share. Everyone knows about these players and everyone now knows about PSG. PSG was the new Galacticos like when Real had Zidane, Figo, R9, Beckham. And we saw how the Galacticos increases the profile and the revenues of Real

I can see why a big sponsor would want to spend a large amount for the PSG shirt sponsorship. They sell PSG / Mbappe shirts like crazy. And then PSG is in Paris, which is one of the top cities in Europe. It seems Ligue 1 is also coming up with some rich owners like the Nice owner and the Rennes owner.

I get the value of their sponsorships (well, the ones that aren't from Qatar, lol) but I'm talking about whether anyone would actually buy PSG for the price, considering the cost to run PSG is insane and without the inflated sponsorships, and the fact it is in Ligue 1, I dunno, I don't think anyone would buy PSG for the sort of money that they are being valued at--I question the value of PSG, not of the visibility of the brand, but I wonder how strong that valuation could last without it being artificially propped up. Ligue 1 is just so far behind the other leagues, and even with the rich owners in Ligue 1, it's still not in a place that would make me comfortable if I wanted to buy a club in the PSG price range.

Man City, I also think is a tad high, as they also rely on sponsorships that do not seem genuine. But I think that because they are so high-profile and in the EPL, it would make a little more sense, but again, if I was spending 5b, I don't think City would be worth that, as opposed to Man Utd or Arsenal.

I feel like the "club valuation" articles in Forbes or the one done by Deloitte are really... not that precise? I feel like they have very ad-hoc ways of creating these values, especially for teams like Barca or Real, which cannot be bought or sold.

It's just like when they try to value the brand of college sports teams--you can't buy them, so what does that value mean? If you want to value sponsorship prices and costs, then you'd have other indices to use than the supposed value of an asset that cannot be traded.

Anyway, I respect your opinion, so that's why I wanted to bounce ideas off of you and see if my thinking was off-base or not.

 

[leaf]

Imagine if Pirlo actually became a Carlo or Pep level coach at Milan, Camarda being Pirlo's Messi, and I would have to pretend to love Pirlo for years.

God is so kind and merciful, even in these dark times, you don't even appreciate how much He has protected you.

Like the story of Jonah and the whale.

Golden Post

 

[Forza1]

Any news of Colombo's future? Didn't he play decent season at Lecce.

 

[Samaldinho]

I can imagine Moncada, Furlani + Cardinale holding regular conference calls throughout the season LAUGHING at the signings of CDK, Orgi, Messias, Florenzi etc

I wonder how awkward and nervous Moncada's laugh was.

 

[sheva]

you said we regressed, but we performed better every year since we let go of Hakan. So individually if we signed a better player is a pointless argument since as a team we have done much better.

That turkish idiot is not worth mentioning on this forum. And we didn't lose him for free because of incompetence, we lost him for free because he's a little gay boy and disrespected our management by agreeing terms verbally then signing for inter behind our back

also besides bennacer no one wanted to sit next to him in the bus

 

[Ryo]

Any news of Colombo's future? Didn't he play decent season at Lecce.

They have an option to buy (~3.5M?) and we have option to buy back (~4.5M?).
So if we want to keep him, we need to pay up a 1M "development fee".

 

[AC_Wesley]

I wonder how awkward and nervous Moncada's laugh was.

 

[Congo Powers]

Furlani and paolo are not the same species

 

[patosheva]

MN says kamada deal is standby.

 

[sheva]

Good good, keep your hands raised while we count you:


By the way, aren't you the guy that posted the picture of the little African boys dancing and said this was going to be Moncada's next group of transfers?

after a similar gif was posted beforehand. not sure why you're taking the argument to a personal level but i can think of some reasons.

i'm also to understand that you rate paqueta who 3 years after leaving milan is now playing for a 14th place west ham and just won the cornflakes cup with a whopping 4g/3a? please, tell us more of your future prospects

 

[Congo Powers]

Why does he look like he just installed cameras in the primavera locker room, jerry sandusky of lombardia

 

[Hitchens]

Maybe some news on N'Dicka tonight.

I read somewhere that these are 'decisive hours'.