The Rumour Commode XLIV: Paragliding to Piolistine Crisis

[rossonero1]

A player/manager’s background as part of a rival club is irrelevant, especially in Italy. That’s a moot point.

Secondly, he managed Juventus on a shoestring budget for roughly 4 years and dominated Italy. His expertise is not in question in the slightest.

His defeat against us in the CL last season isn’t a stain on his reputation as his spurs tenure was a unique and mutually toxic situation. That’s without mentioning the fact that on paper, we were the superior side.

This club doesn’t need to hire anymore experimental/up-and-coming managers. That has been our MO for a very long time. We need a proven winner to steer this club in the right direction, sporting-wise.

Spalletti laid a somewhat decent foundation for conte in terms of stability and successive qualifications to the CL and conte entered the fray and further elevated them. Their situation at the time mirrors our current predicament. Conte would be a stellar addition to the club.

We can debate this ad nauseam but I would prefer conte to do what he is known to do in Italy and SHOW his quality.

Milan have spent years trying to create their own Conte and failed, now you can actually have the real thing but people are against it.

 

[Mr. Anonymous]

All because of individual quality

Congrats to Pioli for having much superior players.

So its individual quality of the players when they win the penalty kick, but Pioli's fault when they don't convert it.

 

[nonsonoqui]

Well my preferred choice is Motta

but Conte is pretty much the antithesis of Pioli as a coach

and after all the damage Pioli has caused my psyche I welcome Conte with open arms

I was somewhat against Conte, but I would like him to come now as well.

Bur according to @Edu-bY-A that makes me mentally handicapped, so I don’t know…

 

[amanmilan]

I would have preferred klopp for sure as a long term. Conte is good but for short term only. He won’t stay for long

 

[papaberlu]

First and foremost, someone who fits in with our philosophy of self-sustainability and who is not a sociopath with an Inter and Juve past.

That would be great. Anyone who is happy about Conte is completely lost and mentally handicapped in my view.

Furthermore, the candidates are self-evident if you look at the coaching market. There's bound to be a good one who hasn't been outcoached by Pioli in the Champions League round of 16 with his Tottenham squad, which cost several hundred million.

I assume if he takes over Milan, at the very base level he has bought into the self-sustainability approach and the core philosophy of management/ownership

 

[SecondStar]

Milan have spent years trying to create their own Conte and failed, now you can actually have the real thing but people are against it.

Some people erroneously believe that their opinion matters more than others on this empty message board. Maybe they forgot they are a username and a password like the rest of us, no matter how much they cosplay as journalists and ITKs.

Hopefully, the club makes the right decision.

 

[Wild]

That's a fair angle, but that could be said about most contracts that are renewed. In this instance, it was about placing confidence in a coach responsible for a close to miraculous Scudetto title. That very same season he led us to a CL semi final. The two windows failed to strengthen the team, coupled with tactical confusion and an injury nightmare that we have come to associate with Pioli. Our collapse in the league after 2-2 vs Roma was what broke the harmony of his tenure.

It is looking like a split this summer, but contrary to what several here seem to think, we aren't being stunted in development by seeing the Pioli period out this season. Not in my opinion, not the players and not the club. His reign will be seen as an overwhelmingly positive one as long as he secures CL football for next season.

I think the problem was the length of it.
It was four years, no?

 

[Mr. Anonymous]

Maldini made some mistakes but his achievements as a director greatly outweighed his mistakes on the whole. Origi, CDK and Bobanesque outspokenness led him to be sacked.

Our biggest star just confessed to missing having him around, but four knuckleheads in the commode shit on his reign as director as a hobby.

It is what it is. It will fizzle out.

PREACH!!!!

 

[Pigeon]

getting the guy who got dumped by the bald moron in CL is actually insane

folks are really desperate i guess

 

[papaberlu]

On one hand, Milan fans worship Ibra and the mentality he brings

On the other hand, they toss aside Ibra's hand-picked choice for coach

 

[Master Smurf]

His defeat against us in the CL last season isn’t a stain on his reputation as his spurs tenure was a unique and mutually toxic situation. That’s without mentioning the fact that on paper, we were the superior side.

Now you are just in bizarro world with this opinion

That situation is the main reason he wasnt in demand and currently the only clubs rumored are in Italy.

 

[ACM14061988]

Momblano who is a journalist that follows Juve said from what he knows Conte has a total agreement with Ibra to become our next coach. He said he personally knows Conte's staff and it is 100% confirmed. Ibra made the choice

 

[Mr. Anonymous]

To give you a more serious resonse. You can blame blame Pioli for refusing to field a certain type of players, thus missing important characteristics that would help us prevent 22 goals conceded in 24 games. I agree, nothing to debate here.

But in the Bologna game, there were too many individual errors who, in my opinion, have nothing to do with the lack of certain characteristics. Beginning with woefully missing two pens in one game. In the instance of the first goal you specifically mentioned, I answered something along you don't need to be a CDM to track your marker. I mean even if we had a CDM, you'd still have defensive duties as a CM. On top of that, Maignan let a ball slip through a goali who's reportedly asking 7-8M should safe, no matter if we lack a CDM or not. Imagine Donnarumma flopping like this. To be clear: I'm not throwing stones at Maignan. I still think he's a top 3 GK in the world. But that was a flop, and it's one that has nothing to do with Piolis decisions.

Terracciano had a promising cameo with Atalanta and everyone was blaming Pioli since weeks for not fielding him more often to close out games instead of relying on Calabria. And now? Suddenly Pioli was too naive to give him gametime because he's not experience (despite playing 1,5 seasons already with Hellas and impressing a lot of scouts, mind you). Heck, and that after there's even been that consistent narrative for months that Pioli doesn't give enough chances to young players, but now that he does, it's wrong too. I don't think it was a wrong decision to bring Terracciano. It didn't pay out, but that's not a bad coaching decision IMO, it's just a young player fucking up his league debut (with us!). That happens. But you see where I'm getting at? Every possible error on the field committed by a player gets always boiled down to Pioli. I don't think that's fair. Not this time.

And this is not the only time....you preach too brotha!!!

BTW - I also think this should be Pioli's last year with the club. Really curious where he'll go and how he'll do.

 

[Neruda]

I would have preferred klopp for sure as a long term. Conte is good but for short term only. He won’t stay for long

didnt u hear ? Klopp installs cameras in the toilets to spy on the players

 

[Edu-bY-A]

You can also ask yourself why Conte is certainly not a candidate for Liverpool.

Because nobody in their right mind is seriously happy about Conte.

Conte is a lethal dose of poison that will catapult us back years and usher in the next Banter era.

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Higuain does all the little link-up play stuff that Zirkzee does. I don't think Zirk plays like Ibra, he's much more like Higuain, dropping deep and linking play more in Higuain's smooth, nonchalant style.

I haven't seen Zirkzee really have that explosive power that Ibra had, he reminds me way more of Higuain.

Higuain was a bomber with link up play though. Goes missing in crucial finals hut apart from that he is a beast in the league.

Zirzke isn't a bomber. Not yet anyway but he has good skills and link up play.

 

[Jivara]

Conte used a 343 at Spurs, I don't think Conte coming here means Leao leaves.

I think that might be the best formation for us and it seems to be the most effective one for the current era of formations. I say this while observing my national team, the coach shifted around until he settled for 3-4-3 and the reason was because he had good attacking players and he needed to have the front three playing together all the time while also mainting defensive solidarity and having numbers at the back. At Milan it's a similar situation we have several good players in the attacking department and our defense is exposed so you can cram it with 3 defenders and hard working midfielders who simply push the ball forward to the attackers.

Something like this would be solid I think:
Maignan; Kalulu, Thiaw, Tomori; Calabria, Loftus-Cheek, Reijnders, Theo; Pulisic, Okafor, Leao. I have chosen the most experienced players but with inevitable changes in the transfer market you can have better players especially in midfield and you get rid of the ones who don't have a position. You can also play 3-4-1-2 and plug in an AM there.

 

[ACM14061988]

Momblano also said Conte already knows the plans for summer mercato and he agrees with it, there are rumors that Conte wants a Napoli player, we don't know who yet

 

[Jivara]

Momblano also said Conte already knows the plans for summer mercato and he agrees with it, there are rumors that Conte wants a Napoli player, we don't know who yet

I dont trust rumours coming from a guy called Momblano

 

[Jivara]

Just reading this news makes me feel like our club is more powerful

Yes do it come on!!

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Momblano also said Conte already knows the plans for summer mercato and he agrees with it, there are rumors that Conte wants a Napoli player, we don't know who yet

Oshimen

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Just reading this news makes me feel like our club is more powerful

Yes do it come on!!

I cant wait for sir conte to take over.

Rip to our fitness staff.

 

[Jivara]

Mamma Mia with Conte and Osimhen we will win the World Cup

 

[Soldier_of_god]

Watch rlc and co all explode with conte

 

[Pigeon]

Momblano also said Conte already knows the plans for summer mercato and he agrees with it, there are rumors that Conte wants a Napoli player, we don't know who yet

knowing conte it's some washed up bum like mario rui

 

[SecondStar]

Now you are just in bizarro world with this opinion

That situation is the main reason he wasnt in demand and currently the only clubs rumored are in Italy.

A champions league tie is not enough to sully a manager’s reputation. It happens. It’s juvenile thinking to base his quality as a manager on that one result during a tumultuous spell at a club where there was much internal dispute.

His achievements outweigh that result by a large margin.

Your opinion on clubs seeking his services is nothing other than conjecture. I’m not going to pretend I’m privy to his negotiations with clubs, his availability during the last 10 or so months, or anything else pertaining to his future work. If you want to play journalist, be my guest. My point is simply, your judgement on his demand was pulled out of thin air.

 

[Kirk Van Houten]

Conte means we'll get knocked out of Europe in the group stages again but we'll get the second star.

 

[Kirk Van Houten]

Give me RDZ any day over the bald Juve cunt.

 

[nonsonoqui]

Momblano rose to serious stardom when he called, before any sentient being, Ronaldo signing for Juventus.

 

[Hugh Janus]

2.26 PPM Juventus: 133 matches | 90 wins 30 draws 11 losses | 242:87 GD
2.12 PPM Chelsea: 106 matches | 70 wins 15 draws 21 losses | 218:109 GD
2.11 PPM Inter: 102 matches | 64 wins 23 draws 15 losses | 214:102 GD
1.78 PPM Tottenham: 76 matches | 41 wins 12 draws 21 losses | 136:85 GD
1.98 PPM Career wise: 594 matches | 347 wins 134 draws 113 losses | 1068:567 GD

Additionally, he has the highest PPM (2.26) in the history of Serie A for coaches with over 100 matches:
2.26 PPM Serie A: 188 matches | 127 wins 43 draws 18 losses | 371:148 GD

These are world class numbers no matter how you try to spin it. You want to win the league you bring his ass over to your team, as simple as that.

1.98 PPM over his whole career with 600 matches is insane. Only Pep 2.36 PPM (854 matches), Jose 2.06 PPM (1134) and Carlo 2.02 PPM (1277) have higher PPM than him.

Simeone has 1.92 in 865
Klopp has 1.87 in 1053
Allegri has 1.87 in 787
Pioli has 1.54 in 849