The Rumour Commode XLIV: Paragliding to Piolistine Crisis

Rigore to save your life: choose your player


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That's BS... We have squad built to perform and play better and we expect more.

We can blame the players sure, but Pioli isn't guilt free of shirt comings.

My point is that if we're bashing Conte for his CL history, let's also point the mirror at Pioli...

Semi final last year, call it an easy route all you want but we still got there- best Conte ever did in UCL was the quarters with the gobbi
 

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So is no one going to post that Gerry said in an interview owning Milan is exhausting? Starting to feel the pressure.
Fucking pussy!!!

Try supporting them you cuck yank!!!
 

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People who say bringing Conte will break Leao and make him leave.

If that’s the case then I’m afraid Leao was never a superstar that we thought so.

If you think Leao is currently being held down by Pioli which I definitely think it’s the case, then you should relish Conte who can possibly take him to the next level.

I don’t think Leao is a lazy player, or I think it’s exaggerated and the lack of tracking back might seem to be an intentional tactic, so I think he can work according to what Conte demands. I see him as a special player still.

But if he really really can’t, then he was never that good.
Leao always played better when we played in counter-attack, when he has space to run through player, we even saw what he can do when he took the ball last game and won a penalty with that run.

Conte plays in counter attack, if there is someone like Zirkze dropping back and open the game, Leao will have a lot of space and he will show his skills more that way.

One thing for sure Theo is going to be a beast as a wingback.

Conte has only Plan A if things go right way he is a great manager but when things turns the opposite direction then he creates a lot of drama, the only thing im afraid of him.
 

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Last time I checked Conte won the scudetto every season but one that he's coached in Serie A so yeah I think he's as close to a guarantee to a scudetto there is.



Let's wait and see how he performs - if the sociopathic, cheating moron really comes - with a team that isn't the most expensive team in the league and at the same time doesn't benefit from Marotta's refereeing influence.

You fools are unteachable anyway and always have to learn the hard way.
 

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Carlo underachieved with us. He needed 165 games to reach to 100 wins with all those amazing players we had. Just for record Pioli needed 166 games to reach to 100 wins
Can we compare the trophy count for each lol...

If Pioli is so good why has no other big club put their faith in his ideas and vision?

What a stupid comparison... And I agree Carlo should have done better with us!!!!!
 

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Sempre Milan reporting reopening the negotiations for Good Morning

Milan have said they were willing to negotiate from the €35-40m price demanded by Torino, and to take on the defender’s recovery therapies meaning he would only be available to Pioli starting from March.

Milan Lab asking for him.

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Semi final last year, call it an easy route all you want but we still got there- best Conte ever did in UCL was the quarters with the gobbi
So there both shite but one isn't Pioli

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Come on guys, the Pioli cycle is done, it's run it's course!!!

I want him to leaveus with anothe trophy this year, but its time any way you put it.
 

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3 at the back = defensive boring football am I right?

This just shows how clueless you and most of the people waffling about Conte's playstyle actually are. His teams always scored a lot, especially in his most recent years. On top of that, they don't concede much either. God forbid we hire such a boring, defensive minded coach arghhhh.

11/12 Juventus: Scored 77 in 43 (1.79 goals per game)
12/13 Juventus: Scored 59 in 35 (1.68 goals per game)
13/14 Juventus: Scored 106 in 55 (1.92 goals per game)
16/17 Chelsea: Scored 109 in 37 (2.94 goals per game)
17/18 Chelsea: Scored 109 in 59 (1.84 goals per game)
19/20 Inter: Scored 113 in 54 (2.09 goals per game)
20/21 Inter: Scored 101 in 48 (2.10 goals per game)
21/22 Tottenham: Scored 72 in 36 (2.00 goals per game)
22/23 Tottenham: Scored 62 in 20 (3.10 goals per game)
Total: 808 in 387 (2.08 goals per game)

Now let's compare this to our 3 most successful coaches since 2000:

Pioli:
19/20: Scored 65 in 35 (1.85 goals per game)
20/21: Scored 112 in 53 (2.11 goals per game)
21/22: Scored 82 in 48 (1.70 goals per game)
22/23: Scored 79 in 52 (1.51 goals per game)
23/24: Scored 53 in 30 (1.76 goals per game)
Total: 391 in 218 (1.79 goals per game)

Allegri:
10/11: Scored 80 in 50 (1.60 goals per game)
11/12: Scored 100 in 53 (1.88 goals per game)
12/13: Scored 80 in 48 (1.66 goals per game)
13/14: Scored 43 in 27 (1.59 goals per game)
Total: 303 in 178 (1.70 goals per game)

Ancelotti:
Total: 720 in 420 (1.71 goals per game)
Under Champagne Carlo, with one of the best squads ever assembled we've only managed 2 times to score over 100 goals in a season out of 8.

You know Mourinho teams average 3 goal a game in Domestic League football. I guess he is an attacking coach also.
 

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Let's wait and see how he performs - if the sociopathic, cheating moron really comes - with a team that isn't the most expensive team in the league and at the same time doesn't benefit from Marotta's refereeing influence.

You fools are unteachable anyway and always have to learn the hard way.

Crying helps bro.
 

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3 at the back = defensive boring football am I right?

This just shows how clueless you and most of the people waffling about Conte's playstyle actually are. His teams always scored a lot, especially in his most recent years. On top of that, they don't concede much either. God forbid we hire such a boring, defensive minded coach arghhhh.

11/12 Juventus: Scored 77 in 43 (1.79 goals per game)
12/13 Juventus: Scored 59 in 35 (1.68 goals per game)
13/14 Juventus: Scored 106 in 55 (1.92 goals per game)
16/17 Chelsea: Scored 109 in 37 (2.94 goals per game)
17/18 Chelsea: Scored 109 in 59 (1.84 goals per game)
19/20 Inter: Scored 113 in 54 (2.09 goals per game)
20/21 Inter: Scored 101 in 48 (2.10 goals per game)
21/22 Tottenham: Scored 72 in 36 (2.00 goals per game)
22/23 Tottenham: Scored 62 in 20 (3.10 goals per game)
Total: 808 in 387 (2.08 goals per game)

Now let's compare this to our 3 most successful coaches since 2000:

Pioli:
19/20: Scored 65 in 35 (1.85 goals per game)
20/21: Scored 112 in 53 (2.11 goals per game)
21/22: Scored 82 in 48 (1.70 goals per game)
22/23: Scored 79 in 52 (1.51 goals per game)
23/24: Scored 53 in 30 (1.76 goals per game)
Total: 391 in 218 (1.79 goals per game)

Allegri:
10/11: Scored 80 in 50 (1.60 goals per game)
11/12: Scored 100 in 53 (1.88 goals per game)
12/13: Scored 80 in 48 (1.66 goals per game)
13/14: Scored 43 in 27 (1.59 goals per game)
Total: 303 in 178 (1.70 goals per game)

Ancelotti:
Total: 720 in 420 (1.71 goals per game)
Under Champagne Carlo, with one of the best squads ever assembled we've only managed 2 times to score over 100 goals in a season out of 8.
Thanks for this. Welcome Conte.
 

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You know Mourinho teams average 3 goal a game in Domestic League football. I guess he is an attacking coach also.
Well for starters, that's a lie.

Second, the stats I showed for Conte are not Domestic League stats only.
 

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You know Mourinho teams average 3 goal a game in Domestic League football. I guess he is an attacking coach also.
I guess it depends on how you define attacking vs defensive coaches

A lot of people seem to use it interchangeably with a high block vs a low block

To me a coach who scores a lot of goals is an attacking coach

Conversely, I see Tiki Taka as a very defensive tactic, not an attacking one
 

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So is no one going to post that Gerry said in an interview owning Milan is exhausting? Starting to feel the pressure.
Exhausting? He has barely been here a year. Even papa Elliott did more work than Gerry
 

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So, is Cunte official or just random Twitter account rumor?
 

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Seems like a normal interview. Doesn’t say he’s tired. Just that he feels the pressure of disappointing the fans.

Sounds like something got lost in translation from English to Italian back to English.

The word ‘exhausting’ isn’t even mentioned in the article.
 

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I guess it depends on how you define attacking vs defensive coaches

A lot of people seem to use it interchangeably with a high block vs a low block

To me a coach who scores a lot of goals is an attacking coach

Conversely, I see Tiki Taka as a very defensive tactic, not an attacking one
I would say the best indicators are how much risk they are willing to take, how much attack volume and possession they go for. Tiki Take can be both imo, like early vs late Tiki Taka era Spanish NT for example.
 

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Today Krunic came where i work. He told me he will always love Milan and Milan fans

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what else did he tell u about the situation - why was he acting like a lil bitch ?
 

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I think the only reason why Conte isn’t our coach right now (I think @Samaldinho asked this) is because there’s still no clarity on the growth decree. Once it’s clear what’s happening going forward, we can sign him. Conte without the growth decree is probably not feasible and doesn’t make much sense. With the growth decree, it’s a different deal.
 

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Imagine if Pioli would have bottled those...

"his dumb subs"
"he got drunk at HT"
"he lost the dressing room"
"1on1 defending"
"pass to Leao and inshallah"
"dribble dribble dribble"
"no DM"
"Calabria starting again"
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Does Pioli also have the highs of Mr CL

There are levels to this and Pioli and Conte sit far below
 

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Can we compare players Carlo had and Pioli has?😄
Sure..

Bigger question...

Why has ABSOLUTELY NO team given Pioli the chance to manage a team of superstars?

And what has Carlo's shortcoming have to do with Pioli currently lol?
 

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3 at the back = defensive boring football am I right?

This just shows how clueless you and most of the people waffling about Conte's playstyle actually are. His teams always scored a lot, especially in his most recent years. On top of that, they don't concede much either. God forbid we hire such a boring, defensive minded coach arghhhh.

11/12 Juventus: Scored 77 in 43 (1.79 goals per game)
12/13 Juventus: Scored 59 in 35 (1.68 goals per game)
13/14 Juventus: Scored 106 in 55 (1.92 goals per game)
16/17 Chelsea: Scored 109 in 37 (2.94 goals per game)
17/18 Chelsea: Scored 109 in 59 (1.84 goals per game)
19/20 Inter: Scored 113 in 54 (2.09 goals per game)
20/21 Inter: Scored 101 in 48 (2.10 goals per game)
21/22 Tottenham: Scored 72 in 36 (2.00 goals per game)
22/23 Tottenham: Scored 62 in 20 (3.10 goals per game)
Total: 808 in 387 (2.08 goals per game)

Now let's compare this to our 3 most successful coaches since 2000:

Pioli:
19/20: Scored 65 in 35 (1.85 goals per game)
20/21: Scored 112 in 53 (2.11 goals per game)
21/22: Scored 82 in 48 (1.70 goals per game)
22/23: Scored 79 in 52 (1.51 goals per game)
23/24: Scored 53 in 30 (1.76 goals per game)
Total: 391 in 218 (1.79 goals per game)

Allegri:
10/11: Scored 80 in 50 (1.60 goals per game)
11/12: Scored 100 in 53 (1.88 goals per game)
12/13: Scored 80 in 48 (1.66 goals per game)
13/14: Scored 43 in 27 (1.59 goals per game)
Total: 303 in 178 (1.70 goals per game)

Ancelotti:
Total: 720 in 420 (1.71 goals per game)
Under Champagne Carlo, with one of the best squads ever assembled we've only managed 2 times to score over 100 goals in a season out of 8.
Blud pulled a sheet but couldn't prove his point, and had to compare fraud Conte to UCL winner Ancelotti??? Nah that's some Stan shit
He doesn't produce an ounce of modern football
 
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