The Rumour Commode XLIV: Paragliding to Piolistine Crisis

[finnishhacker]

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Suma said we are working to buy muscles to help the defense and to balance the squad, he said Roma deserved to win and we have to learn this lesson

There is nothing to learn with Pioli anymore. We are done

 

[delira]

Bring me Klopp or similar level

 

[Massaro94]

If coaches win titles how many trophies did Ancelotti win with Parma, Everton and Napoli?

Don't forget the juve

 

[WILL2K]

This is my Spring Festivus airing of grievances:
I've been a fan of AC Milan since forever, a club that has given me joy and pain but it's becoming increasingly more difficult to support them because there's much I don't approve of these days. Okay, I will continue to root for the jersey because it's in my DNA and also a masochist because I keep watching until the final whistle even when we suck.
We are a team run by amateurs, unqualified people put in roles that have no prior experience just because of their names. Give me someone like Sartori who has performed miracles both at Atalanta and now Bologna, or Tare who had success working for a maniac like Lolito. Out of current management I would keep only Moncada while Furlani and Scaroni, don't know much about the sport. And who the fvck is D'Ottavio? Don't even know what he looks like. Ibra is another one who doesn't deserve his current position: he's a narcisist who brags a lot but was absent from the pitch more often than not. How do we know he's a good talent evaluator?
Our management sucks, our coach sucks, many of our players suck, and our owner who takes advice from a former baseball executivesucks. Our level of suckitude has been amply demonstrated in the derbies and these Roma matches.
Also I wish we had more Italians on the squad and I disagree that there aren't any good ones. That's true for attackers but there are plenty of good goalies, defenders, and midfielders, and we have a long tradition of fantastic Italian players while I criticized Inter for being a club full of foreigners. Now the situation is reveresed as our cousins start Barella, Acerbi, Bastoni, Di Marco, Darmian, and have Frattesi and Aslani on the bench.
I know most of you could care less but as a native Italian it matters to me and now it feels like I'm supporting a french/Spanish club while Milan has zero players in the national team. In 1994 I attended Italy-Nigeria at Foxboro stadium won 2-1 with 2 goals by Baggio. In the final lost to Brazil on penalties we started: Maldini, Costacurta, Baresi, Donadoni, Albertini, and Massaro with Tassotti and Evani on the bench. That's 8 Milan players. And I don't care about the stupid growth decree because that doesn't seem to bother Inter and Juve.
Anyway, this is my rant after yesterday's debacle which really pissed me off.

I do agree it would be nice to have more Italian players, at least they tend to show passion/grinta during tough times. We used to have at least 3-4 top Italian players during our most successful periods. But then, the current crop of Italian players, especially since the last decade is on average a level or two below those of the golden periods. And yes, they are super expensive.

 

[Massaro94]

how many did he won with Milan, Madrid, Bayern and Chelsea ?
Fking Pioli is here 4 years, he only won 1 trophy.
This season losing to all the bigger teams, drew against relegation side Sassuolo and Salernitana.
How the hell is he still coach here ?

Klopp lost against crystal Palace and atalanta

U can't win em all

 

[ACM14061988]

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There is nothing to learn with Pioli anymore. We are done

Pioli is gone forget about him now. I am worried that these players will never feel the fire and the passion needed to win, i don't blame at all Leao he is out best player and he gave an assist yesterday but he needs a differenct coach, no more big brother and this is not just for Leao but for many other players

 

[DeNiro]

Rules for hiring new coach:

• Non-Italian or have reasonable head of hair (can be fake)
• Play attractive football or score 100+ goals/season
• Must be willing to bench/sell Calabria and hand armband to Theo
• Must be willing to play youth and then actually give them more minutes (i.e. Simic)
• Has serial winner mentality

Bar mourinho, non-italian coaches generally do not succeed in serie a

 

[Massaro94]

You start to comparing a legend like Ancelotti, make him look bad mentioning Parma, Everton and Napoli.
And Yes good coaches win trophies

Parma were stacked tho

 

[Pingu]

Pioli is gone forget about him now. I am worried that these players will never feel the fire and the passion needed to win, i don't blame at all Leao he is out best player and he gave an assist yesterday but he needs a differenct coach, no more big brother and this is not just for Leao but for many other players

I feel Pioli's coaching style helped in the former years because he could build a cohesive unit on trust and unity, allowing them to settle well. But then between his own stubborn/crazy philosophy, and players needing to grow, he failed. He can nurture but not get the best out of this squad.

 

[vB9]

welcome @Sage

 

[taura]

Fodder won ucl with Chelsea dint he. And again with the weakest version of bayern he is in semis. And reached finals not too long ago with psg

"wow"

He was awful for Chelsea in 21/22 and then since taking over Bayern:

- lost 10 of his 49 competitive marches, as much as Angels Mann in 84 matches
- won only 10 out of 21 matches against clubs that play in European competitions
- got slapped by Freiburg in German cup
- lost to Mainz and Leipzig in the title race
- lost to Leipzig in supercup
- lost to Saarbrucken in the cup
- got embarrassed by Frankfurt
- lost league title after 12 years to Leverkusen
- got slapped by Lazio in CL

All that after spending hundreds of millions for bringing in Kane, Kim, Boey etc

If that doesn't scream German Pioli I don't know what does

 

[Massaro94]

Man was also connoisseur of ladies with balls.

 

[Cloren]

 

[ACM14061988]

So i guess we have to watch Giroud against Inter too, he will be in LA in less than two months but who cares! Let's keep playing with the players that have nothing left to do and let Okafor and Chukwueze ride the bench

 

[Massaro94]

If not Conte I would go for Sarri.

I would take Sarri before conte tbh

If beautiful football is what milan fans want. Then he is the only Italian I trust.

Also has won in Europe unlike conte

 

[Massaro94]

the more i think about it, the more i like it to be honest. Some good football... and I actuallly think that players like Leao will benefit from his style of play.

Honestly we should have hired sarri before he went to napoli almost a decade back.

I remember we played his empoli side who tore us to shred. But because they had 2 elder statesman as their front men struggled to score. We drew that game 2-2. It was the one where Fernando Torres scored for us.

A decade late sure. But he is definitely the best Italian for milanistas.

 

[Super22]

So i guess we have to watch Giroud against Inter too, he will be in LA in less than two months but who cares! Let's keep playing with the players that have nothing left to do and let Okafor and Chukwueze ride the bench

We should play defensive on Monday, like we played against PSG at San Siro. Let see if Pioli learn his lesson, if he continues with his usual pressing 4231 then a thrashing is coming upon us.

 

[Pingu]

 

[Massaro94]

Rules for hiring new coach:

• Non-Italian or have reasonable head of hair (can be fake)
• Play attractive football or score 100+ goals/season
• Must be willing to bench/sell Calabria and hand armband to Theo
• Must be willing to play youth and then actually give them more minutes (i.e. Simic)
• Has serial winner mentality

Couldn't give care less.about attractive football at the moment. Just get me top 4 and win 1 derbi game.

We're not ajax. Fuck playing the youth. Unless it's coppa italia

Sacchi capello carlo were not serial winners until they came to Milan.

A serial winner will want serious money. One look at our midfield and strikers would make him say no

 

[Cloren]

Pioli has really ruined our European record lol.

We only had 2 group stage exists in CL in our history before and Pioli recently had 2 exists at group stages in 3 seasons.

We never lost to an Italian club in Europe before and Pioli lost to 2 of them for back to back seasons!

Embarrassing.

 

[La Chupacabra]

So i guess we have to watch Giroud against Inter too, he will be in LA in less than two months but who cares! Let's keep playing with the players that have nothing left to do and let Okafor and Chukwueze ride the bench

It goes without saying, he will play Leao/RLC/Puli/Giroud again, he doesn't care anymore

 

[Shiby]

"the change of coach is now mandatory facing a Milan that has long been boring, devoid of play, confused, inadequate, and unprepared especially in decisive matches"

Brilliantly said.

 

[Wild]

Refreshing that the leader of our radical fans is more cool headed than many in here.

 

[Shiby]

You could argue (though I would dissagree) that we were unlucky in CL because of the group of death.

But this Roma loss and the way it happened is an unforgivable disgrace.

 

[rozimilan]

Suma said we are working to buy muscles to help the defense and to balance the squad, he said Roma deserved to win and we have to learn this lesson

Leaked Pioli reaction to the last part of the statement:

 

[Soldier_of_god]

"wow"

He was awful for Chelsea in 21/22 and then since taking over Bayern:

- lost 10 of his 49 competitive marches, as much as Angels Mann in 84 matches
- won only 10 out of 21 matches against clubs that play in European competitions
- got slapped by Freiburg in German cup
- lost to Mainz and Leipzig in the title race
- lost to Leipzig in supercup
- lost to Saarbrucken in the cup
- got embarrassed by Frankfurt
- lost league title after 12 years to Leverkusen
- got slapped by Lazio in CL

All that after spending hundreds of millions for bringing in Kane, Kim, Boey etc

If that doesn't scream German Pioli I don't know what does

True. Dint realize his record was that bad.

 

[Il grande Milan]

correct, but way too late

 

[BrianAC]

You could argue (though I would dissagree) that we were unlucky in CL because of the group of death.

But this Roma loss and the way it happened is an unforgivable disgrace.

true! I f you ask me we lost our ground when Inter hammered us in the beginning of the season, We were naieve in that game and everything went down from there and has been uphill struggle since then. Before that game, i think we were playing some good football tbh.

 

[Bird]

Do we have a regista? No
Do we have a trequartista? No
Do we have CF who's not 35+? No

Did Roma have 11 players on the pitch? No
Does Roma have better players than us? No
Did Roma have all their important players (Ndicka & Christante) available for this match? No
Did we? Yes
Did Roma have to sub out their most important player (donkey) after only 28 minutes? Yes
Does Roma's coach have ANY (real) experience as a coach? No
Did Roma adapt their game plan to us? Yes
Did bioli learn and adapt from the previous match against Roma? No
Did said noob coach read master bioli's super secret game plan like an open book? Yes
Did ANY of our players know what to do on the pitch? No
Did bioli try to fix any of our issues we've been facing for the last two years? No
...

If all of our problem could be fixed with WC players at every position, including those on the bench, what would be the point of the coach?

With a self-playing piano, everyone can become Mozart.

At what point would you say "maybe the problem is the coach"?

 

[DeNiro]

Sarri was successful at juve, chelsea and napoli....not sure why he gets so much hate