The Rumour Commode XLVI: Jetski for Prick edition

[forward]

Prefers workrate over technique....
Theo and Leao are gonna be perma-benched then.

Benched by whom?
The monsters of workrate Terraciano and Okafor?

 

[forward]

Our experienced players are cunts, management very incapable when signing strikers and defenders. Also signed coach at the end of mercetto.

Fonsesca had good flashes but it was sabotage and ******ness from defense. Insane when Mike was having a good year. He won against real and inter but lost too many points in league.

I think dinho/janku/antonini under that stupid Leonardo were more professional and effective than our greatest strength. Sell these fucks when they get in form. I bought a Theo jersey in summer

At least deers have improved a lot, yousuf is amazing. Keep them away from players who have been here for 4-5 years. Respect for logo decreases as tenure increases. Mike is kinda back. Pavlovic is absolute ****** and one leg is from chuck, fuck me i thought we were covered at back but now we need more cbs and moratta is the pussy I knew from ladri years.

You guys need to chill with the Theo hate.
All players have drops in form.
To name a few recent ones - Mbappe, Haaland, even Messi and CR7.

Great coaches ALWAYS stand behind their players during tough times.
Real fans were crying rivers for Carlo to bench Mbappe. He hasn't and now Mbappe is scoring in every match.

You don't manage top players the way you manage Calabrias and Tomoris.

 

[sabeni]

@Master Smurf your time is here

Reject any clausul involving tijani go to them in the future.

 

[milanator]

So management offered the same offer to Sarri that they did Conceicao.

Sarri responded that he wanted an 18 month contract with no exit clause.

Honestly, would it have been that fucking bad to offer Sarri the rest of this season + 1 year to try and get his team in order???

What a fucking joke, these guys are going around and just straight up disrespecting people with their offers

After how his Lazio era ended I can understand that they didn't want to give him those conditions, especially if Conceicao accepted them.

 

[brk]

You guys need to chill with the Theo hate.
All players have drops in form.
To name a few recent ones - Mbappe, Haaland, even Messi and CR7.

Great coaches ALWAYS stand behind their players during tough times.
Real fans were crying rivers for Carlo to bench Mbappe. He hasn't and now Mbappe is scoring in every match.

You don't manage top players the way you manage Calabrias and Tomoris.

I’d argue the same with Tomori. At his best he’s amazing. Surprised you used him as an example like Calabria.

 

[brk]

After how his Lazio era ended I can understand that they didn't want to give him those conditions, especially if Conceicao accepted them.

My feeling is that Milan gave this exact offer to multiple coaches in the summer and only Lopetegui and Fonseca accepted it. They dropped Lopetegui after the fan revolt, and signed Fonseca. After a few months of no work Conceicao probably relented and accepted the offer, but if he has done so in the summer we might have signed him. I don’t think they chose one coach over another they just signed the lowest bid.

I don’t think they care much which coach from that big list of B or C level coaches they had on the list. To them they’re all the same and the only important factor was that they wouldn’t get saddled with a big contract if things go south.

We all know a top level coach will quickly elevate this team into guaranteed title contenders, but that requires a level of risk and commitment that they’re not comfortable making. They didn’t reject Conte because he’s culturally incompatible, they have no culture. He’s demands too much and they want minimal investment in order to satisfy the minimal requirement of CL qualification. Anything above that is a bonus.

 

[Inas]

This anal alpinism of curva for Fonseca is insane

Hate Fonseca or love him, he's shown to be the man in all of these shambles. He's the only with the courage to say things the way they are, to try to change things. He may be limited or someone we all believe isn't the standard for Milan, but the bunch of incompetent cowards did him dirty. He was shorthanded by from the beginning with this disjointed squad.

So Curva Sud was right

 

[brk]

I wouldn’t get my hopes up for any major investments in January. My expectation is Cristante on loan. That’s it.

 

[forward]

I’d argue the same with Tomori. At his best he’s amazing. Surprised you used him as an example like Calabria.

Tomori isn't a terrible player, don't get me wrong.
But he definitely isn't a star. At least not yet.

 

[milanator]

My feeling is that Milan gave this exact offer to multiple coaches in the summer and only Lopetegui and Fonseca accepted it. They dropped Lopetegui after the fan revolt, and signed Fonseca. After a few months of no work Conceicao probably relented and accepted the offer, but if he has done so in the summer we might have signed him. I don’t think they chose one coach over another they just signed the lowest bid.

I don’t think they care much which coach from that big list of B or C level coaches they had on the list. To them they’re all the same and the only important factor was that they wouldn’t get saddled with a big contract if things go south.

We all know a top level coach will quickly elevate this team into guaranteed title contenders, but that requires a level of risk and commitment that they’re not comfortable making. They didn’t reject Conte because he’s culturally incompatible, they have no culture. He’s demands too much and they want minimal investment in order to satisfy the minimal requirement of CL qualification. Anything above that is a bonus.

What A coach would come here? Unless it is someone like Conte who is dragged down by how problematic he is. B coach like Sarri is realistic for us, a Pep is not

Regarding Conte I am sure that they rejected him for his way of doing things, they want a coach and nothing more, that was made pretty clear.

However I agree that style is largely secondary.

 

[Chiko]

Zirzee, lol. How can this management manage to target every shit player possible? And here I was, promised Enzo, Álvarez, and the like. It’s strange, without Maldini to stop them, they could be signing gems, yet all they seem to find now is trash.

Weren’t people here crying when we moved on from him and said this management wasn’t serious. Seriously what a take.

 

[The Cat]

Conceicao is a known hard-ass, no-nonsense, call-it-like-it-is manager.

The only question is does he go easy on these bitch ass players at first, then starts making demands in the summer OR just go full-Conte right away and possibly alienate players?

No way his football is going to work without getting rid of some less committed players first, and if it were me, Leao would be the first guy on the chopping block.

The problem is - leao is an annoying bastard, but he is good. And what alternative do we have??

 

[brk]

What A coach would come here? Unless it is someone like Conte who is dragged down by how problematic he is. B coach like Sarri is realistic for us, a Pep is not

Regarding Conte I am sure that they rejected him for his way of doing things, they want a coach and nothing more, that was made pretty clear.

However I agree that style is largely secondary.

With our revenues, with the stadium almost approved, with the future so bright... we could take a risk and invest in a top level coach that can cost as much as 8 or 10m net. We're hunting in the 2, 3, maybe 4m range and only after they prove themselves with us in a try before you buy deal. We don't need to be this risk averse. It's way too safe. The longer we delay this upgrade (including upgrading the CF) we are delaying our position back to the top of Europe. It's going to happen, but it can happen now instead of in two or three years. They just don't feel it's important to take that risk and maybe lose some money in those couple of years. Better to play it safe, make sure we don't overcommit and keep the ship steady until we finally dock at San Donato.

This in essence was probably the major point in the rift with Maldini. Invest now and elevate the team instead of playing it safe and waiting for the revenue to skyrocket and then invest.

 

[Ludwig]

Conceiao's Porto defeated Pioli's Milan 1-0 and draw 1-1 in San Siro (UCL 2021/22)

 

[abritcemeng]

Maestr021 flashbacks

Fuck moncada
Smilling as if morata/abraham/royal/chuk dominating seri A

 

[Alo88]

So management offered the same offer to Sarri that they did Conceicao.

Sarri responded that he wanted an 18 month contract with no exit clause.

Honestly, would it have been that fucking bad to offer Sarri the rest of this season + 1 year to try and get his team in order???

What a fucking joke, these guys are going around and just straight up disrespecting people with their offers

It's a bit of news that so far only Pedulla has reported, and Pedulla is and has always been a lying fraud.

 

[milanator]

With our revenues, with the stadium almost approved, with the future so bright... we could take a risk and invest in a top level coach that can cost as much as 8 or 10m net. We're hunting in the 2, 3, maybe 4m range and only after they prove themselves with us in a try before you buy deal. We don't need to be this risk averse. It's way too safe. The longer we delay this upgrade (including upgrading the CF) we are delaying our position back to the top of Europe. It's going to happen, but it can happen now instead of in two or three years. They just don't feel it's important to take that risk and maybe lose some money in those couple of years. Better to play it safe, make sure we don't overcommit and keep the ship steady until we finally dock at San Donato.

This in essence was probably the major point in the rift with Maldini. Invest now and elevate the team instead of playing it safe and waiting for the revenue to skyrocket and then invest.

But who concretely? Pep no, Carlo no. Klopp maybe if he got a more managerial role but also a bit of a stretch.

 

[Cloren]

lol these posts trigger me. This is a joke right?

Pioli more than anyone was put in an unfair positions. Dude had to play Giroud in most games and had no replacement for Kessie or Hakan. Had to use Kalulu as a CB, when he was new. Had to use Messiah and Saelemakers as starting RW. Had no sub for Leao for the longest time. Had to use a new to the league CDK. Somehow still won the league, went to the semi final of the champions league, some how finished second with 10 million injuries. Had to play Theo as CB cause we had Kjaer injury, Kalulu injury.

Yet Fonseca was treated unfairly. 2 strikers, in reijnders, inform Pulisic, luxury of a sub for Leao, sub for Theo, Calabria sub. Man poor Fonseca. Has 5 cbs but can’t figure out which works. Has 2 strikers but can’t score. Poor Fonseca. Has a decent CDM in Fofana while Pioli had to deal with an injury prone Bennacer and an exciting Pobega. Yet some of you shat on Pioli every chance you got but it’s poor Fonseca.

I wanted Pioli out too. But this Fonseca pity party is laughable

Fonseca was chosen by the management for a job he clearly wasn’t qualified for and wasn’t backed by them when things went south. They didn’t address the media, they didn’t respect the coach enough or stood by him.

He clearly wanted Saele to stay but they got rid of him too.

Pioli had a 100m transfer dedicated to him last season and rumours has it that he had decent input on it. He wasn’t shafted or disrespected like Fonsenca was. The management loved Pioli.

Secondly, Giroud? Giroud who is clearly a lot better then Morata or Tammy at the moment lmao. The management bought him a fodder CB in Pavlovic and a shitty RB in Emerson.

They literally got rid of Adli and made Fonseca have just 4 midfielders cause the 5th one is in the hospital all the time and is finished.

He has had to deal with entitled primadonnas in the squad who didn’t put in the effort required. I don’t give a fuck if Fonseca is a no name coach that doesn’t command respect, people pay their tickets for these players to perform and put in effort, so these primadonnas owe it to us to put in effort to perform for the fans. But they didn’t, they didn’t care.

Lastly, the decision to sack him was made days ago yet they allowed him to manage the match against Roma and leaked the news that he got sacked during the fucking game and allowed him to attend a PC where he had no idea he got fired yet the journalist knew that he got fired. How the flying fuck do you allow everyone else including journalists that he got fired and not Fonseca first? And then expose him on that humiliating manner in the PC where he finds out he got sacked by them!!!

That’s fucking embarrassing and humiliating.

So YES I very much feel pity for Fonseca, he was treated poorly by the management in every levels and these cunt of players also made his job hell.

I’m glad he’s finally gone, not just b/c he didn’t fit in the club but I’m glad he’s gone for his sake, he didn’t have a good time and was treated badly.

 

[BreadPitt]

But you wanted fonseca gone right.

Literally posted about it almost every single day

And now you're still complaining.

Let's just not complain then and see each other in Serie B. Am I happy they sacked Fonseca, yes, was it overdue, yes. Is his replacement a long term solution to get back to consistent winning ways? Probably not likely. So I will continue to complain. What's so hard to understand?

Anyway let's give the guy a couple of months and see if he comes good. I still think he's a twat, I remember him from his playing days and didn't like him. Porto fans don't seem to like him much either, great exactly what we need in the spirit of togetherness.

 

[sheva]

Shut your mouth menachem , if it wasn't for americana you would be in a gulag in kamchatka you scrawny weasel

and if it wasn't for americana you'd still be mounting camels and banging sheeps instead of going to tennis lessons, shahid

 

[abritcemeng]

Fonseca was chosen by the management for a job he clearly wasn’t qualified for and wasn’t backed by them when things went south. They didn’t address the media, they didn’t respect the coach enough or stood by him.

He clearly wanted Saele to stay but they got rid of him too.

Pioli had a 100m transfer dedicated to him last season and rumours has it that he had decent input on it. He wasn’t shafted or disrespected like Fonsenca was. The management loved Pioli.

Secondly, Giroud? Giroud who is clearly a lot better then Morata or Tammy at the moment lmao. The management bought him a fodder CB in Pavlovic and a shitty RB in Emerson.

They literally got rid of Adli and made Fonseca have just 4 midfielders cause the 5th one is in the hospital all the time and is finished.

He has had to deal with entitled primadonnas in the squad who didn’t put in the effort required. I don’t give a fuck if Fonseca is a no name coach that doesn’t command respect, people pay their tickets for these players to perform and put in effort, so these primadonnas owe it to us to put in effort to perform for the fans. But they didn’t, they didn’t care.

Lastly, the decision to sack him was made days ago yet they allowed him to manage the match against Roma and leaked the news that he got sacked during the fucking game and allowed him to attend a PC where he had no idea he got fired yet the journalist knew that he got fired. How the flying fuck do you allow everyone else including journalists that he got fired and not Fonseca first? And then expose him on that humiliating manner in the PC where he finds out he got sacked by them!!!

That’s fucking embarrassing and humiliating.

So YES I very much feel pity for Fonseca, he was treated poorly by the management in every levels and these cunt of players also made his job hell.

I’m glad he’s finally gone, not just b/c he didn’t fit in the club but I’m glad he’s gone for his sake, he didn’t have a good time and was treated badly.

Me too completely agree with curva sud on this one..
From sporting aspect he May not What we hope for but how he was sacked is just low

 

[pippofan]

After how his Lazio era ended I can understand that they didn't want to give him those conditions, especially if Conceicao accepted them.

Well, he did finish second the year before....

 

[BillyTheKid]

Fonseca was chosen by the management for a job he clearly wasn’t qualified for and wasn’t backed by them when things went south. They didn’t address the media, they didn’t respect the coach enough or stood by him.

He clearly wanted Saele to stay but they got rid of him too.

Pioli had a 100m transfer dedicated to him last season and rumours has it that he had decent input on it. He wasn’t shafted or disrespected like Fonsenca was. The management loved Pioli.

Secondly, Giroud? Giroud who is clearly a lot better then Morata or Tammy at the moment lmao. The management bought him a fodder CB in Pavlovic and a shitty RB in Emerson.

They literally got rid of Adli and made Fonseca have just 4 midfielders cause the 5th one is in the hospital all the time and is finished.

He has had to deal with entitled primadonnas in the squad who didn’t put in the effort required. I don’t give a fuck if Fonseca is a no name coach that doesn’t command respect, people pay their tickets for these players to perform and put in effort, so these primadonnas owe it to us to put in effort to perform for the fans. But they didn’t, they didn’t care.

Lastly, the decision to sack him was made days ago yet they allowed him to manage the match against Roma and leaked the news that he got sacked during the fucking game and allowed him to attend a PC where he had no idea he got fired yet the journalist knew that he got fired. How the flying fuck do you allow everyone else including journalists that he got fired and not Fonseca first? And then expose him on that humiliating manner in the PC where he finds out he got sacked by them!!!

That’s fucking embarrassing and humiliating.

So YES I very much feel pity for Fonseca, he was treated poorly by the management in every levels and these cunt of players also made his job hell.

I’m glad he’s finally gone, not just b/c he didn’t fit in the club but I’m glad he’s gone for his sake, he didn’t have a good time and was treated badly.

Very well said, but the management and players loved Pioli because he knew how to deal with people. Fonseca looked like a grumpy old man from day one who wanted to confront everyone. He did not try to make friends. I think he can't be successful anywhere in this business if he mainains his attitude.

 

[pippofan]

My feeling is that Milan gave this exact offer to multiple coaches in the summer and only Lopetegui and Fonseca accepted it. They dropped Lopetegui after the fan revolt, and signed Fonseca. After a few months of no work Conceicao probably relented and accepted the offer, but if he has done so in the summer we might have signed him. I don’t think they chose one coach over another they just signed the lowest bid.

I don’t think they care much which coach from that big list of B or C level coaches they had on the list. To them they’re all the same and the only important factor was that they wouldn’t get saddled with a big contract if things go south.

We all know a top level coach will quickly elevate this team into guaranteed title contenders, but that requires a level of risk and commitment that they’re not comfortable making. They didn’t reject Conte because he’s culturally incompatible, they have no culture. He’s demands too much and they want minimal investment in order to satisfy the minimal requirement of CL qualification. Anything above that is a bonus.

The problem is that with this philosophy there's no guarantee that we can qualify for the CL.

 

[The Cat]

They chose fonseca because he would be a YES Man. He wouldn't make a fuss to management.

I hope conceicao is not the same.

 

[Cloren]

Conceicao is a known hard-ass, no-nonsense, call-it-like-it-is manager.

The only question is does he go easy on these bitch ass players at first, then starts making demands in the summer OR just go full-Conte right away and possibly alienate players?

No way his football is going to work without getting rid of some less committed players first, and if it were me, Leao would be the first guy on the chopping block.

You mean Theo right?

His contract is ending sooner and is far more lazy/problematic than Leao this season

If anyone has to go, it’s him.

 

[Khurrisu]

We better give Conceicao at least 1 signing he wants in Jan.

 

[The Cat]

Milan, harsh speech from #Ibrahimovic to the team: #Fonseca's dismissal is a defeat for everyone, not just the Portuguese. We need an immediate change of attitude because now there are no alibis, now it's up to the players to react and bring results with the new coach Sergio #Conceiçao.

via @Gazzetta_it

zlatan the low IQ Man-Child lecturing others on attitude

 

[Cloren]

If this is true, it’s damming but not surprising

Redbird stink

 

[The Cat]

Milan chose #Conceiçao because he is a coach with a strong character and believes that a tough guy is good for the locker room. If a scene was needed to create atmosphere, go back to April: four Porto players left out of the team because, it was written, they were guilty of an unprofessional attitude and a few too many smiles after a 2-2 in Porto-Famaliçao. Conceiçao is like that: he believes that the strong personality in the locker room should be the coach. Him. So Milan chose a tough guy with grit, football skills and a winning past in Portugal.

via @Gazzetta_it

must say I agree. Inter players are more "mean" and thuggish, our players are too pussy, been like that for too long