The Rumour Commode XLVII: Foamseca is out

[Master Smurf]

For 68 million? Yeah, it's because they are stupid

Meanwhile maldo sold the protagonists for both the CL final clubs for:

Its also extremely ironic because he was replaced by Dumfries who is also performing at a very high level.

Milan was supposed to be the club making these types of smart moves

 

[sabeni]

Why blame maldini, it was american who didnot gave wages beyond 4m

 

[Ryo]

Why blame maldini, it was american who didnot gave wages beyond 4m

So are you saying current wage structure is bad?

 

[Dulcepenetrante]

Whats the rule here? Why is this not a penalty?

i saw a better angle of this situation

it was 100% not a penalty

acerbi blocked the ball with his foot then it came up and appeared to touch his upper arm. Another angle shows that it did not touch his arm. Even if it did, the deflection to an arm after his block would make it a no penalty call. maybe Barca fans do not know the rules?

barcelona was given a fair match

they could have won but they did not. End of story

 

[IL-Capitano]

Maldini allowed it to happen

No matter what people say,
Management let it get to that point

Should have sold them earlier .

The players and their agents delayed and complicated contract talks or the possibility of even selling them earlier. And add to that there were no bids for the players. 0 bids

If Eriksen hadn’t gotten injured Hakan would now be playing somewhere in turkey. No one came in with bids for him. He was a last minute gamble for inter.

There were no bids for Donna and his demands were ridiculous. When he left Milan every big team was stacked with keepers so he found himself without a club for longer than he thought.

He an Raiola made negotiations impossible. Not to mention their mannerism turned off a lot of potential suitors hindering Milan’s ability to sell him. Hence 0 bids.

Kessie fucked his own negotiations and his career. All were offered more than fair contracts and decided to be overtly difficult on every level.

You need to forget about them they are gone and they are the key cause of their exits from Milan and why Milan could not sell them.

 

[Samaldinho]

You all shit on Hakan and said he did nothing, no one wanted to keep him and you made fun of his "useless passing," lol. You guys called him Kebab and said he sucked, why are you mourning him now?

Donna couldn't catch a cross or corner, and he is still shaky with his feet. Raiola came back and begged Maldini for a spot back, and the funny part is that Donna has worse keeper stats than Mike this year. Donna's stats were amazing... in the years he was making the biggest errors.

I just want to repeat: Donna has worse keeper stats than Mike this year. Look at PSxG between them.

Kessie made his choices and was really only good for the year before the Scudetto, he was pretty mediocre in the Scudetto year until the last stretch. You can go back and look at the forum, it's all there. The man makes 28m in Saudi, I salute him for that, though.

And who can forget Romagnoli, making 6m net, how did we let him go? Man was making more than Leao does now, gross, lol. Another player that was shit on while here and then transformed into a giant when he left.

But the funniest part of all this nostalgia is how it continually forgets that Gazidis was the one in charge of the money during this time, so if you want to say we should have kept them, or pushed to sell them (we tried, they refused and/or the deals weren't worth it to us) you should be asking questions over Gazidis.

 

[IL-Capitano]

You all shit on Hakan and said he did nothing, no one wanted to keep him and you made fun of his "useless passing," lol. You guys called him Kebab and said he sucked, why are you mourning him now?

Donna couldn't catch a cross or corner, and he is still shaky with his feet. Raiola came back and begged Maldini for a spot back, and the funny part is that Donna has worse keeper stats than Mike this year. Donna's stats were amazing... in the years he was making the biggest errors.

I just want to repeat: Donna has worse keeper stats than Mike this year. Look at PSxG between them.

Kessie made his choices and was really only good for the year before the Scudetto, he was pretty mediocre in the Scudetto year until the last stretch. You can go back and look at the forum, it's all there. The man makes 28m in Saudi, I salute him for that, though.

And who can forget Romagnoli, making 6m net, how did we let him go? Man was making more than Leao does now, gross, lol. Another player that was shit on while here and then transformed into a giant when he left.

But the funniest part of all this nostalgia is how it continually forgets that Gazidis was the one in charge of the money during this time, so if you want to say we should have kept them, or pushed to sell them (we tried, they refused and/or the deals weren't worth it to us) you should be asking questions over Gazidis.

 

[forward]

What?

I keep talking about management, and their lack of understanding of the market due to inexperience. Same management would not hire a 4th place baguette league coach or a Portuguese Gattuso, btw

Pioli would kill it in psg, BTW
Pioli is what I would imagine a salary worker, who excelled and rose above limitations in the workplace, contributed more than he should, only to not receive further budget/control.
Yeah, i too wouldnt elevate my tactics to prime guardiola levels if I had wheelchair Benny as the only DM for several seasons

Criticism of maldini ≠ support of redbird
We understand this, right?

It was a joke, relax bro.

My point was - people are way too stuck on the players that left 4 years ago.
We finished 2nd last season, and are 9th this season.
And also wasted 100m on failed transfers in the last 2 transfer windows.

Dollar obviously isn't the reason for that.

 

[Pigeon]

Whats the rule here? Why is this not a penalty?

my god, you’re desperate man

just let it go. we can’t blame marotta league

 

[forward]

You all shit on Hakan and said he did nothing, no one wanted to keep him and you made fun of his "useless passing," lol. You guys called him Kebab and said he sucked, why are you mourning him now?

Donna couldn't catch a cross or corner, and he is still shaky with his feet. Raiola came back and begged Maldini for a spot back, and the funny part is that Donna has worse keeper stats than Mike this year. Donna's stats were amazing... in the years he was making the biggest errors.

I just want to repeat: Donna has worse keeper stats than Mike this year. Look at PSxG between them.

Kessie made his choices and was really only good for the year before the Scudetto, he was pretty mediocre in the Scudetto year until the last stretch. You can go back and look at the forum, it's all there. The man makes 28m in Saudi, I salute him for that, though.

And who can forget Romagnoli, making 6m net, how did we let him go? Man was making more than Leao does now, gross, lol. Another player that was shit on while here and then transformed into a giant when he left.

But the funniest part of all this nostalgia is how it continually forgets that Gazidis was the one in charge of the money during this time, so if you want to say we should have kept them, or pushed to sell them (we tried, they refused and/or the deals weren't worth it to us) you should be asking questions over Gazidis.

Cause Kebab is nothing special.
Never was and never will be.

The secret to Inter's success is sane management and top coaches.
They sold Hakimi and stayed at the top.

So how important you think Kebab is to their success?
They can sell him in the summer and will still be top 2 in the league next season and in CL semis.

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

The players and their agents delayed and complicated contract talks or the possibility of even selling them earlier. And add to that there were no bids for the players. 0 bids

If Eriksen hadn’t gotten injured Hakan would now be playing somewhere in turkey. No one came in with bids for him. He was a last minute gamble for inter.

There were no bids for Donna and his demands were ridiculous. When he left Milan every big team was stacked with keepers so he found himself without a club for longer than he thought.

He an Raiola made negotiations impossible. Not to mention their mannerism turned off a lot of potential suitors hindering Milan’s ability to sell him. Hence 0 bids.

Kessie fucked his own negotiations and his career. All were offered more than fair contracts and decided to be overtly difficult on every level.

You need to forget about them they are gone and they are the key cause of their exits from Milan and why Milan could not sell them.

Agreed. Milan needs to worry about fixing the current team and keep it moving.

This season is a wash already so we better make some moves early.

 

[Edu-bY-A]

Its also extremely ironic because he was replaced by Dumfries who is also performing at a very high level.

Milan was supposed to be the club making these types of smart moves

But to be honest, it has to be said that Dumfries was criticised a lot and on the unwanted list for two years. In the meantime, the perception has changed completely and patience has paid off.

The same can be said of Inzaghi, who was heavily criticised in 2021/22 and "only" managed to stay in office with a Coppa Italia.

The team has now internalised his principles of play and reflecting on the pitch.

I can only repeat that impatience is the death of any positive development.

 

[jawz10]

Gosh I was spoiled to witness this guy in action

We all were I remember becoming obsessed with Rebrov + Shevchenko for Dynamo Kiev right around the same time I fell in love with Milan, so when he came to Milanello a season or two later it was the beginning of a beautiful admiration for me. What set Sheva apart from most other strikers was that he scored heavy goals AND he scored consistently. He always scored the 1st goal, game winners, derby-deciders, and goals to win trophies. Fuck all the strikers who came afterwards, who score the 3rd, 4th, and 5th goal in 6-0 routes over minnows. Give me Sheva. 1-0.

This team is actually likeable compared to when he played there

No big egos, just young hardworking players

I was listening to a podcast that described that phenomena, stating “PSG have pulled off something incredible, they’ve made you think they’re the underdogs…”

The premise being that when they kept break records for players and bringing the biggest stars they were hated, but now that they’ve sold the biggest names and openly claimed that they’re no longer “obsessed with winning the CL” the narrative has flipped and now we forget that they still spent 100’s of millions of Euro’s to assemble THIS squad.

 

[jawz10]

I can only repeat that impatience is the death of any positive development.

On this point, I will never disagree with you. Say it louder for the people in the back.

 

[KujaIX]

Fuck the players that left on frees.

They did not need to do that but did.

You will have no tears from me, only vitriol if anything at all.

 

[Ryo]

Cause Kebab is nothing special.
Never was and never will be.

The secret to Inter's success is sane management and top coaches.
They sold Hakimi and stayed at the top.

So how important you think Kebab is to their success?
They can sell him in the summer and will still be top 2 in the league next season and in CL semis.

Selling Hakimi and Lukaku for a combined €181M Saved Merda. It saved their future and allowed them the money to bring in the likes of Dumbfries and Hakan.

Just like how selling Tonali for €70M got us 2nd place last season. It got us Pulisic and Tiji for a combined €40M, along with fixing our dreadful bench from 22/23.
People seem to forget that we barely scraped by in 4th place the season we got humiliated by Merda in the UCL semi-finals, and should have been out of UCL if Ladri's crimes hadn't been brought to light. The bench was absolute ass, in major decline and in desperate need of a revamp. The other half of our Tonali funds went to doing that.

 

[IL-Capitano]

Gosh I was spoiled to witness this guy in action

We all were I remember becoming obsessed with Rebrov + Shevchenko for Dynamo Kiev right around the same time I fell in love with Milan, so when he came to Milanello a season or two later it was the beginning of a beautiful admiration for me. What set Sheva apart from most other strikers was that he scored heavy goals AND he scored consistently. He always scored the 1st goal, game winners, derby-deciders, and goals to win trophies. Fuck all the strikers who came afterwards, who score the 3rd, 4th, and 5th goal in 6-0 routes over minnows. Give me Sheva. 1-0.

A truly talented striker he had it all. I’ll always remember watching Dynamo Kyiv and wanting Milan to make a bid for Shevchenko and Rebrov.

When I heard Milan had signed Shevchenko it made my day I couldn’t wait to see him line out for Milan. Good times.

 

[Allan_Sombrero]

We all were I remember becoming obsessed with Rebrov + Shevchenko for Dynamo Kiev right around the same time I fell in love with Milan, so when he came to Milanello a season or two later it was the beginning of a beautiful admiration for me. What set Sheva apart from most other strikers was that he scored heavy goals AND he scored consistently. He always scored the 1st goal, game winners, derby-deciders, and goals to win trophies. Fuck all the strikers who came afterwards, who score the 3rd, 4th, and 5th goal in 6-0 routes over minnows. Give me Sheva. 1-0.

I was listening to a podcast that described that phenomena, stating “PSG have pulled off something incredible, they’ve made you think they’re the underdogs…”

The premise being that when they kept break records for players and bringing the biggest stars they were hated, but now that they’ve sold the biggest names and openly claimed that they’re no longer “obsessed with winning the CL” the narrative has flipped and now we forget that they still spent 100’s of millions of Euro’s to assemble THIS squad.

The perspective changed since before they would break the bank for players they didn't need. They would buy just to hoard players.

This season they did spend but they bought players that were pretty underrated and actually fit a role (Pacho for CB, Neves for DM, Doue for RW, Kvaradona for LW).

I guess more people give them leeway since they actually built a team and not just put a bunch of names together (like Madrid did this season).

 

[Ryo]

Repubblica: Conceicao and staff helped Milan squad get fitter - the details

One of the important things that Sergio Conceicao has worked on during his time at AC Milan is the fitness of the players, a report claims.

sempremilan.com

I have to ask. What the fuck were Pioli and Fonseca doing?

 

[leaf]

Cause Kebab is nothing special.
Never was and never will be.

The secret to Inter's success is sane management and top coaches.
They sold Hakimi and stayed at the top.

So how important you think Kebab is to their success?
They can sell him in the summer and will still be top 2 in the league next season and in CL semis.

I mean....you can't say that when he's been so good for them.
He's been critical to their success.
Hell, he was great for us before he left.
The guy is an elite passer and is good with the dead ball.
Does he have flaws? Yes. So does Leao, Theo, Pulisic and Mike.

You're not wrong about Inter being expertly managed though.
Fuck me they lost Hakimi and got better. (See also Lukaku and Oanna)
It reminds me of the Theo situation here.
It's not so much that we love Theo as much as we don't expect Red Bird to adequately replace him

 

[Caladan]

Selling Hakimi and Lukaku for a combined €181M Saved Merda. It saved their future and allowed them the money to bring in the likes of Dumbfries and Hakan.

Just like how selling Tonali for €70M got us 2nd place last season. It got us Pulisic and Tiji for a combined €40M, along with fixing our dreadful bench from 22/23.
People seem to forget that we barely scraped by in 4th place the season we got humiliated by Merda in the UCL semi-finals, and should have been out of UCL if Ladri's crimes hadn't been brought to light. The bench was absolute ass, in major decline and in desperate need of a revamp. The other half of our Tonali funds went to doing that.

We had enough money for Tijanii and Pulisic without selling Tonali.
Tonali next season will play CL and Tijanii not.

 

[Dena]

Letizia

I always love that name.

It has something to do with my Highschool crush.

Only legends know

 

[Tantalis]

Anyway I was kinda thinking/ hoping that what if (just saying) ...what if
we do things to NOT be shit

Always knew you'd become #positivityforce

 

[Ashish]

No one cares we have Financial Scudetto

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We are updating the number on the sleeve to 8 regardless. Folks who let them go for free are not here.

Fuck Inter though.

 

[forward]

I mean....you can't say that when he's been so good for them.
He's been critical to their success.
Hell, he was great for us before he left.
The guy is an elite passer and is good with the dead ball.
Does he have flaws? Yes. So does Leao, Theo, Pulisic and Mike.

You're not wrong about Inter being expertly managed though.
Fuck me they lost Hakimi and got better. (See also Lukaku and Oanna)
It reminds me of the Theo situation here.
It's not so much that we love Theo as much as we don't expect Red Bird to adequately replace him

I am not saying Kebab is bad.
But he isn't one of the best players in his position.
So, easily replaceable.

And that's the strength of a well built team. They replaced Hakimi and Lukaku without issues.

The way Redbird has managed us so far - selling Theo or Leao will be a disaster.

 

[Ashish]

Hakan Kebab is 100 times the player midget bitch Bin Naseer for whom arabs died on this forum . Maldini broke bank for that bitch and let go of Hakan, Kessie, Donna for free All of them stay winning.

Yeah now he got fat, committed mutiny and ran away to Algeria.

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

For 68 million? Yeah, it's because they are stupid

Meanwhile maldo sold the protagonists for both the CL final clubs for:

Are you talking bout Acerbic here...

 

[Deep Fried Pizza & Chips]

We had enough money for Tijanii and Pulisic without selling Tonali.
Tonali next season will play CL and Tijanii not.

Careful with that sort of logic, it throws too many ideological thoughts, agendas and narratives outta whack and might cause irreversible damage to the delicate RnB ecosystems x

 

[Ryo]

We had enough money for Tijanii and Pulisic without selling Tonali.
Tonali next season will play CL and Tijanii not.

We had enough for Pulisic and Reijnders, but not to fix the rest of the bench.
Go back and check that 22/23 season bench mate.
Rebic imploded, CDK did fuck all, Adli was adapting and underused, Vrannkx? Bakayoko? Fode Ballo Toure? Origi? Kjaer Ageing. What else was there? Dest? Ibra? Injured and not performing.
How many were last minute loans, how many actually performed for the club when needed?

The only one remaing from that bench right now was Thiaw and Gabbia.

Tonali's sale fixed multiple problems, not just the major one at RW.

This was what we had to field in a match before a UCL Quarter Final second leg.

 

[jawz10]

You're not wrong about Inter being expertly managed though.
Fuck me they lost Hakimi and got better. (See also Lukaku and Oanna)
It reminds me of the Theo situation here.
It's not so much that we love Theo as much as we don't expect Red Bird to adequately replace him

This is what I mean when I talk about cycles. Marrotta is a master at understanding how to build cycles, eg, he's not making moves only with the next season in mind. He's thinking a few seasons ahead, trying to ensure the team will be competitive in several competitions. If that means that they need to sell a player, they will find a replacement and rebuild the team to accommodate the new pieces. He understands that building a squad takes time, patience, and the right mix of players. He hires managers who can reinterpret what the previous manager did with the same players and or the same formation. He's a sporting strategist who has a scouting network under him and an ownership above him who stay out of his way and let him work.

Redbird has a portfolio manager (ownership) and a former scout trying to run the entire sporting side, and the results have been inconsistent, to say the least.