The Rumour Commode XLVIII: Tare Tare Sauce

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Don’t like the rumoured salary we’d offer Svilar, becoming one of the top earners right away (same mistakes with RLC, Origi, Chukwueze: all on 4M net and Morata on 4.5M net). We extended Tiji with a salary of 3.5M after balling for 2 seasons. Take Suzuki and Leoni in a double swoop from Parma and include some fodder in the deal.

Thiaw would be the last cb I’d sell. Yes he made tons of mistakes this season, but organisation was all over the place. Still think he is going to be great. Thiaw, Gabbia, Leoni + experienced CB like Kjaer would be nice. Tomori and Pavlo can go. When they try to build up they make me nervous as hell. Simple passes are too much for them. Thiaw is our only CB who can pass vertically to break press.
 
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Lol I haven't read Origi's name in eons, but merely today I've read his name about 3 or 4 times. So, I had to check on Transfermarkt when his contract expires (was certain it was this summer), turns out it's summer 2026! Unquestionably the worst signing in Milan's 126-year long history if you factor the combination of wages in thread with performances.
 

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I really don't like our away kit. The devil logo is a cool throw-back, but the rest of the design looks like it should be a training shirt. Last year's kit was really nice, this... I'm not a fan.
I don´t like it visually but despite that it feels very Milan to me. It is just a collection of the not so pretty Milan design cues.
 

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Ronaldo could do any feint Ronaldinho could do at top speed. Many people assume Ronaldinho popularized the Elastico but Ronaldo popularized it way before him. Like he could do elastico at top speed.
I don't like when people say Ronaldo is the best #9 because it can give a wrong impression. When people think of #9 they think of pure classic strikers.
Ronaldo was far more than that, he would often collect the ball at midfield and dribble a bunch of players regularly, especially when playing for weaker teams like Inter.
With Brazil of course he played very close to the box but that's because Brazil played at the opponent's box for long stretches of the game.
True.
Sometimes his tricks were not noticed because he made them so fast. Only through slow motion one could see what he did! I don't think we will ever get to see a football player like him. I do not want to say he was the best, but he was very unique.
But comparing him to Ronaldinho does not make sense. They were very different in style. I would say Ronaldinho was more like an artist. His movements were so soft, smooth, and silky, very different than Ronaldo's sharp and lightning fast movements. Both were extremely fun to watch, but visually, Ronaldinho's performance was more pleasing to watch for me.
 

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Suma said we have a deal with Svilar but Roma want too much, Maignan will be sold for 23 24 million because he wants to, we have to be clear about Theo, if he remains because he wants to fight for Milan good, if he remains just to leave for free he will see some things change
If he wanted to fight for Milan he would have signed a new contract months ago. Bridge is burned now.
 

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Suma said we have a deal with Svilar but Roma want too much, Maignan will be sold for 23 24 million because he wants to, we have to be clear about Theo, if he remains because he wants to fight for Milan good, if he remains just to leave for free he will see some things change
Meaning extension with less salary or sell ?
 

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I really don't like our away kit. The devil logo is a cool throw-back, but the rest of the design looks like it should be a training shirt. Last year's kit was really nice, this... I'm not a fan.
Interesting. I actually dislike the devil on the shirt.

For me it adds to the training kit feel.
 

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Guys want to hear a joke

Lolito is saying he values rovella for 50 mil

Hahahaha
He valued SMS 120 mil, Cairo valued Belotti 80 mil and we all know how that ended up. Good mngmnt knows whrn it's time to sell, great mngmnt does it at a peak value (something we fail to do, cue Mike, Theo, Rafa etc.)...

I've yet to see in my 30+ yrs of following Milan anyone offering above our asking price... Even Boehly doesn't splash on our "star"...
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I really don't like our away kit. The devil logo is a cool throw-back, but the rest of the design looks like it should be a training shirt. Last year's kit was really nice, this... I'm not a fan.
Only thing that can kinda save this abomination are red numbers at the back, not this prevalent black as secondary color.
 

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I actually don't mind the away shirt too much. It would be better with the old Fly Emirates logo though :rolleyes:
But I hate this year's home kit. I hate the patterns in the black stripes washing out the black and making it look grey.

It really hurts to see how unappealing both of these are compared to the 125th anniversary jersey.
It's a crime it was for one match only. It made our crappy team look premium.
 
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The home kit should have the washed out pattern at least on the back and the pants as well ... or not at all ideally.
 

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He valued SMS 120 mil,
Actually Lotito claimed he turned down a 140m offer from Milan back in 2018 when Leonardo was SD.
Offer was 60m upfront + 80m payable in five installments.
The reason as revealed by Tare is because he had promised Simone to not sell him that season.

Credit to him tbh.

EDIT:
CORRECTION: He said he rejected a 140m from Galliani NOT Leonardo
 
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Antonello Gioia from MilanNews: The atmosphere within the team was peculiar. Just like Stefano Pioli at the end of his tenure, as admitted by the manager himself, Ibrahimovic failed to get through to the team.

“I repeat, we are at Milanello. In these rooms, and I want to clarify, I’m not saying this in defense of Ibrahimovic. I don’t care to defend him. I believe that Ibra has made many mistakes, and Milan is paying the price. There’s no doubt about that.

“So, I’m not defending him. I’m just recounting facts that I know well. Many have told me about them, not just one person. I have evidence that has been verified, and some of it I’ve personally witnessed.

“What I can tell you is that Ibrahimovic turned these rooms upside down several times during the Conceicao era. Many times, he did so with gentleness, harshness, and even middle-ground methods.

“To be more precise, in some matches, especially during the dark period between February and March, the team was in the dressing room. Ibrahimovic entered and addressed the players with extreme severity.

“He was very strict on more than one occasion, and once, if you’ll allow me to use the expression, he was very exaggerated in his style and movements because he saw fit to do so. Not only that, but he also tried to use a gentle approach, giving motivational speeches to seek a reaction from the players, and sometimes using a middle ground.

“Another thing that happened was in the Coppa Italia final, or rather before it, in Rome about a month ago. Ibra gave a speech to the team, and then the team entered the pitch, as we know, and put in a very lackluster performance.

“What reminded me of that match in Rome, and what reminded me of that incident with Ibrahimovic, is something Stefano Pioli said. Before Roma-Milan in the Europa League, with the team having lost 1-0 in the first leg at the San Siro, Pioli gave what he described as the best speech of his career.

“He said that the speech touched every nerve: spirit, motivation, charisma, leadership, tactics, and technique. But as we know, the team put in a lackluster performance, just like in the Coppa Italia final.

“What does this mean? I don’t want to defend Pioli or Ibrahimovic. I repeat and emphasize that I don’t care about defending Ibra. In fact, I believe he’s among the main culprits for the situation at Milan, and he’s certainly the primary culprit for the failure of the Milan Futuro project.

“However, we must be fair to him and say that his presence, especially since January, has been very strong here at Milanello, but it hasn’t had the expected impact.

“I believe this group is no longer responsive. It no longer has motivation. It no longer has incentives. It lacks a strong core of players who are role models, who guide the team, and who consistently and consistently transmit these values to the dressing room,” he stated.


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What the pioli statement is talking about:


**When did you realise it was over at AC Milan?**

“There was a precise moment: the return leg of the Europa League quarter-final, Roma v Milan, at the Olimpico. In the first leg, we had lost 1-0. In the dressing room before the match, I gave a goosebump speech, one of my most heartfelt ever. I was sure we would go through.

“Instead, the team got nothing and did little on the pitch. There I realized that what I was giving was no longer enough. The empathy had broken down."
 

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Antonello Gioia from MilanNews: The atmosphere within the team was peculiar. Just like Stefano Pioli at the end of his tenure, as admitted by the manager himself, Ibrahimovic failed to get through to the team.

“I repeat, we are at Milanello. In these rooms, and I want to clarify, I’m not saying this in defense of Ibrahimovic. I don’t care to defend him. I believe that Ibra has made many mistakes, and Milan is paying the price. There’s no doubt about that.

“So, I’m not defending him. I’m just recounting facts that I know well. Many have told me about them, not just one person. I have evidence that has been verified, and some of it I’ve personally witnessed.

“What I can tell you is that Ibrahimovic turned these rooms upside down several times during the Conceicao era. Many times, he did so with gentleness, harshness, and even middle-ground methods.

“To be more precise, in some matches, especially during the dark period between February and March, the team was in the dressing room. Ibrahimovic entered and addressed the players with extreme severity.

“He was very strict on more than one occasion, and once, if you’ll allow me to use the expression, he was very exaggerated in his style and movements because he saw fit to do so. Not only that, but he also tried to use a gentle approach, giving motivational speeches to seek a reaction from the players, and sometimes using a middle ground.

“Another thing that happened was in the Coppa Italia final, or rather before it, in Rome about a month ago. Ibra gave a speech to the team, and then the team entered the pitch, as we know, and put in a very lackluster performance.

“What reminded me of that match in Rome, and what reminded me of that incident with Ibrahimovic, is something Stefano Pioli said. Before Roma-Milan in the Europa League, with the team having lost 1-0 in the first leg at the San Siro, Pioli gave what he described as the best speech of his career.

“He said that the speech touched every nerve: spirit, motivation, charisma, leadership, tactics, and technique. But as we know, the team put in a lackluster performance, just like in the Coppa Italia final.

“What does this mean? I don’t want to defend Pioli or Ibrahimovic. I repeat and emphasize that I don’t care about defending Ibra. In fact, I believe he’s among the main culprits for the situation at Milan, and he’s certainly the primary culprit for the failure of the Milan Futuro project.

“However, we must be fair to him and say that his presence, especially since January, has been very strong here at Milanello, but it hasn’t had the expected impact.

“I believe this group is no longer responsive. It no longer has motivation. It no longer has incentives. It lacks a strong core of players who are role models, who guide the team, and who consistently and consistently transmit these values to the dressing room,” he stated.


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What the pioli statement is talking about:


**When did you realise it was over at AC Milan?**

“There was a precise moment: the return leg of the Europa League quarter-final, Roma v Milan, at the Olimpico. In the first leg, we had lost 1-0. In the dressing room before the match, I gave a goosebump speech, one of my most heartfelt ever. I was sure we would go through.

“Instead, the team got nothing and did little on the pitch. There I realized that what I was giving was no longer enough. The empathy had broken down."
As we've known for a long time, that group of players are unprofessional, low effort, gutless pussies. Why some people on here are objecting to a wholesale clearout is beyond me. It's exactly what is needed.
 

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Lol I haven't read Origi's name in eons, but merely today I've read his name about 3 or 4 times. So, I had to check on Transfermarkt when his contract expires (was certain it was this summer), turns out it's summer 2026! Unquestionably the worst signing in Milan's 126-year long history if you factor the combination of wages in thread with performances.
Not even kinda close to our worse signing...

Free transfers contracts are different- he made 3.5 million per year over a 4 year deal. Obviously he hasn't done shit for us, and that's 14 million (28 gross?), so no one is arguing it was a good move, but there are plenty of moves where we paid a transfer fee and the player has flopped that have cost the club more

Mattia Calarda was 35 million and played 1 Serie A game total
Andrea Conte cost 24 plus Pessina, and gave us nothing
We sold Paquetà at an 18 million loss
Chuks has 4 goals in 50 Serie A games vs 2 in 27 for Origi, so virtually identical rates, but cost over 20 million and has a similar contract, so costs more in total vs production

I can go on.

Origi was clearly a huge miss, but I think how bad the cost of the mistake was gets overstated
 

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